Twinport53 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Ron, you've been shovelling the Shawcross shit for the best part of a decade. Give it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Given Ron's years-long infatuation with Shawcross, it'd almost be a shame for him not to end up here at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Shawcross is perfect for us. He'd have been our best defender by a mile every year since 2011-12, and would have been a class partner for Coloccini the 2-3 years before that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Ron, you've been shovelling the Shawcross shit for the best part of a decade. Give it up. We probably wouldn't have gone down twice in that time with him in the team, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Shawcross is perfect for us. He'd have been our best defender by a mile every year since 2011-12, and would have been a class partner for Coloccini the 2-3 years before that. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Your man crush on him is a bit creepy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 What, because I think he's a good, not great, defender that would improve us instantly without costing the earth? We've been buying central defenders completely unsuited to English football for over a decade now and he's the attainable antithesis to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Shame we didn't sign Monolo Gabbiadini when we were linked with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I'd actually love to see Shawcross in a Toon top, just for Ron basically. In all seriousness, he's a very good all-round CB at PL level and would be a great buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 That's just the bastardised use. It's certainly used in that context in football but that's not the actual meaning of the word. Fair, but the English language exists to be bastardised and there's plenty of terms that exist purely within football vernacular. I've got to say I can't remember hearing the word used in its original definition in my entire life. Even FM only uses in in the context of a player that's played for many clubs Never heard another use than that in my 27 plus years of life so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 On FM you see 'nomadic' too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Isn't a journeyman boxer someone with an average record? I've always thought of it as both but wouldn't call say Remy a journeyman even though he's played for nearly a different team over the last 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I think in footballing terms at least both definitions are required - Steve Claridhe being the archetypal journeyman footballer who has played for loads of clubs at all levels and always been bang average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I've always assumed 'journeyman' meant a (probably average) player plays who plays at loads of clubs - e.g. Wayne Routledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I've always assumed 'journeyman' meant a (probably average) player plays who plays at loads of clubs - e.g. Wayne Routledge. same as many i suspect, inc. me...amazed to find it has another meaning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Yeah it's an expression that comes from boxing. Someone with limited ability who'd make a living traveling from town to town to fight much higher ranked fighters in front of their home crowd and usually fall over after a few rounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Linked with Dolberg at Ajax. That kid looks quality. Bit Torres like. Just 19 so MA won't throw a tantrum too. Thing top clubs will be after him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Linked with Dolberg at Ajax. That kid looks quality. Bit Torres like. Just 19 so MA won't throw a tantrum too. Thing top clubs will be after him though. Where have we been linked? Would love Dolberg here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Yeah it's an expression that comes from boxing. Someone with limited ability who'd make a living traveling from town to town to fight much higher ranked fighters in front of their home crowd and usually fall over after a few rounds. Nonsense. It's been used for centuries to describe a tradesman who has completed an apprenticeship but is not a master craftsman. "Journey" comes from the French journée, meaning day (i.e. a day's work for a day's pay) - nothing to do with travelling, although Journeymen did often travel from town to town to gain experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Linked with Dolberg at Ajax. That kid looks quality. Bit Torres like. Just 19 so MA won't throw a tantrum too. Thing top clubs will be after him though. I've read he's an excellent talent but will be interesting to see if we learn anything from our last Premier League summer transfer window and not be relying on young strikers from weak leagues to score us goals. That said we'll have Gayle this time and a much better manager if Rafa stays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Yeah it's an expression that comes from boxing. Someone with limited ability who'd make a living traveling from town to town to fight much higher ranked fighters in front of their home crowd and usually fall over after a few rounds. Nonsense. It's been used for centuries to describe a tradesman who has completed an apprenticeship but is not a master craftsman. "Journey" comes from the French journée, meaning day (i.e. a day's work for a day's pay) - nothing to do with travelling, although Journeymen did often travel from town to town to gain experience. Yeah, in a sporting context it still comes from boxing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Linked with Dolberg at Ajax. That kid looks quality. Bit Torres like. Just 19 so MA won't throw a tantrum too. Thing top clubs will be after him though. Where have we been linked? Would love Dolberg here. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastles-transfer-long-list-names-12694583 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Yeah it's an expression that comes from boxing. Someone with limited ability who'd make a living traveling from town to town to fight much higher ranked fighters in front of their home crowd and usually fall over after a few rounds. Nonsense. It's been used for centuries to describe a tradesman who has completed an apprenticeship but is not a master craftsman. "Journey" comes from the French journée, meaning day (i.e. a day's work for a day's pay) - nothing to do with travelling, although Journeymen did often travel from town to town to gain experience. Yeah, in a sporting context it still comes from boxing. Thanks, Suzie. More from dickhead corner after the break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Yeah it's an expression that comes from boxing. Someone with limited ability who'd make a living traveling from town to town to fight much higher ranked fighters in front of their home crowd and usually fall over after a few rounds. Nonsense. It's been used for centuries to describe a tradesman who has completed an apprenticeship but is not a master craftsman. "Journey" comes from the French journée, meaning day (i.e. a day's work for a day's pay) - nothing to do with travelling, although Journeymen did often travel from town to town to gain experience. Yeah, in a sporting context it still comes from boxing. Thanks, Suzie. More from dickhead corner after the break. ouch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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