Guest palnese Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 We need an Ashley Williams/Ryan Shawcross/Jonny Evans type imo. We already have that in Lascelles/Hanley/Clark? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 None of our three have done it to the consistent level those three have in the Premier League like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 We need an Ashley Williams/Ryan Shawcross/Jonny Evans type imo. We already have that in Lascelles/Hanley/Clark? Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 None of our three have done it to the consistent level those three have in the Premier League like. Ashley Williams is fair enough but the other two are mid table to relegation cloggers. Will never understand the fascination for Shawcross on here, he's a bang average journeyman who has never left Stoke for a reason. We'll never progress beyond 10th ( that's if we get lucky) and more likely spend the entire time between 13th and 17th signing players like that. Luckily Rafa knows better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 None of our three have done it to the consistent level those three have in the Premier League like. Ashley Williams is fair enough but the other two are mid table to relegation cloggers. Will never understand the fascination for Shawcross on here, he's a bang average journeyman who has never left Stoke for a reason. We'll never progress beyond 10th ( that's if we get lucky) and more likely spend the entire time between 13th and 17th signing players like that. Luckily Rafa knows better. I'm not a huge fan but calling Shawcross a journey is just wrong. No nonsense centre half with a wealth of premier league experience is more fitting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Don't you have to play for lots of cloobs to be a journeyman? Hence the name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Don't you have to play for lots of cloobs to be a journeyman? Hence the name. No. It means a player that is average, relatively reliable but not great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Aye apparently that's right, I'd always assumed what Disco said tbh. EDIT: Actually I think that's the American definition: "The term is used elsewhere (such as in British and Australian contexts) to refer to a professional sportsman who plays for a large number of different clubs during his career." That obviously makes more sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 never knew there was another definition tbph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I always thought the definition of a journeyman is an average player who has played for a lot of clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 That's just the bastardised use. It's certainly used in that context in football but that's not the actual meaning of the word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 None of our three have done it to the consistent level those three have in the Premier League like. Ashley Williams is fair enough but the other two are mid table to relegation cloggers. Will never understand the fascination for Shawcross on here, he's a bang average journeyman who has never left Stoke for a reason. We'll never progress beyond 10th ( that's if we get lucky) and more likely spend the entire time between 13th and 17th signing players like that. Luckily Rafa knows better. You let yourself down with utterly mongish posts like this, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I always thought the definition of a journeyman is an average player who has played for a lot of clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 That's just the bastardised use. It's certainly used in that context in football but that's not the actual meaning of the word. Fair, but the English language exists to be bastardised and there's plenty of terms that exist purely within football vernacular. I've got to say I can't remember hearing the word used in its original definition in my entire life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Wew. Shut your noise and speak English you posh cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Wonder how much Llorente would cost? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Maguire is linked with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Ashley when the Hull owner shouts down the phone, "show me the money". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Been impressed by Maguire in the little spells I've seen, not much idea if he's good enough to be our highest-level defensive signing though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Good player, be a decent signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Maguire has had a good spell and been commended for it on MotD. He was bound to start getting linked here and there; doubt there's any real substance to that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If we're raiding Hull, can we at least get Andrew Robertson to replace Dummett? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Not sure what people are expecting us to sign in the summer like. We're not going to spend £30-40m on a world class centre-back as a newly promoted club, even with Rafa and that sort of money available to spend. A reliable, solid, experienced mid-table level Premier League centre-back is perfect this summer imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Not sure what people are expecting us to sign in the summer like. We're not going to spend £30-40m on a world class centre-back as a newly promoted club, even with Rafa and that sort of money available to spend. A reliable, solid, experienced mid-table level Premier League centre-back is perfect this summer imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Exactly. You know whoever it is will probably play the best football of their career under Rafa anyway. You just need someone with the basic solid materials and right approach/attitude. Shawcross would obviously be perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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