Ndegwa Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 He seems to be self-aware, knows he needs to improve, Rafa rates him and we're not even in November. I'm confident he'll come good in this new era...if he doesn't then he won't play and we'll probably strengthen again in Jan. Don't get the vitriol he's getting personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 He's obviously got energy, hunger and quality but he's only showing the former two at the moment. Just find it bizarre that Rafa has rotated most other players and not him when he's clearly so lacking in confidence/form. Hopefully he'll get sat down for Mitrovic or Perez soon and come back into the team a few weeks later. It's for what he offers tactically - strength & presence in the final third (particularly with Gayle as a lone striker), effective high pressing, legs on the break etc - rather than end product IMO. I reckon he's a starter until at least January where I think we'll look at signing a specialist number 10 and move Diame back to rotate with Hayden and Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 He's obviously got energy, hunger and quality but he's only showing the former two at the moment. Just find it bizarre that Rafa has rotated most other players and not him when he's clearly so lacking in confidence/form. Hopefully he'll get sat down for Mitrovic or Perez soon and come back into the team a few weeks later. Mitrovic is a totally different player, Rafa would have to change his entire system to bring him in. Perez is an option but he's played worse when he's been handed the chance. Atsu could maybe another option, although I think Diame has probably not played as badly as people make out. Even in the reports on yesterday's game he apparently had a decent header saved and had another effort which wasn't that far off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 He seems to be self-aware, knows he needs to improve, Rafa rates him and we're not even in November. I'm confident he'll come good in this new era...if he doesn't then he won't play and we'll probably strengthen again in Jan. Don't get the vitriol he's getting personally. Nah, no reason for abuse at all. But you know football fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 He seems to be self-aware, knows he needs to improve, Rafa rates him and we're not even in November. I'm confident he'll come good in this new era...if he doesn't then he won't play and we'll probably strengthen again in Jan. Don't get the vitriol he's getting personally. Think we'll buy someone in his position in Jan anyway, just because he's at the African Nations and we've only got Ayoze who can play as an AMC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Diame was always likely to be a short term buy anyway, like a lot of the current squad he'll do well to hold down a shirt next season assuming we get promoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 He seems to be self-aware, knows he needs to improve, Rafa rates him and we're not even in November. I'm confident he'll come good in this new era...if he doesn't then he won't play and we'll probably strengthen again in Jan. Don't get the vitriol he's getting personally. Think we'll buy someone in his position in Jan anyway, just because he's at the African Nations and we've only got Ayoze who can play as an AMC Judge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Yeah, think I mentioned in another thread I can see us going back for him, providing he recovers well. Can play quite a few attacking positions which will help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Think our January targets (if any) will massively depend on what our league situation is. No point getting Johnny Sleeveandtryhard if he's only going to be semi-useful for 4/5 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I liked Diame as a player before he arrived here. He proved for West Ham he was good enough in the PL playing CM, he was a massive asset to Hull in their promotion in a more advanced role so he's proved he's capable at this level as well. He admitted fitness issues when he first arrived but now he's fully fit he's still not producing on the pitch. His attitude seems spot on though and he clearly wants to succeed but he's finding it a big struggle right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 He looked to have a slight injury during the warmup today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 He looked to have a slight injury during the warmup today. 1 assist in 11 games though. Be fairly inconsistent if you were making excuse for this bloke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 He looked to have a slight injury during the warmup today. 1 assist in 11 games though. Be fairly inconsistent if you were making excuse for this bloke I wasn't, just looked as if he was carrying a knock. Not that he was needed anyway as his replacement scored two and created one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 The abuse is a joke, like. But what more can you expect from the mong element of fans who booed Laurent Robert at the end of a 12-goal/multiple assist season? Issues come down the fact that, although him playing off a striker essentially contributes to Rafa's system, it doesn't really allow him the space on the field to exhibit his talents. He's usually got a man on him for one and there's little happening up ahead of him. He's basically being used to get the best out of those around him, he knows it and it's one of the reasons he's snatching at chances the Diame at WHU and Hull would've tucked away. I like him a lot. He's a boss of a CM if used correctly but if there is one genuine criticism I can level at him it's the fact he looks absolutely done at 70 minutes, especially away from home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 We certainly have a smallish mong element in our fanbase who, no matter how well we are doing have to single out a player to have a pop at. Diame and Dummett get it from the matchgoing fans and Colback gets it on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Would like to see him rotated alongside Shelvey instead of Colback, with Perez playing off Gayle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 To be fair, everyone I know away from here who goes to the game has had enough of Colback now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Aye it's clear he should be playing deeper than he has been. He's a total waste playing off the centre forward. When we signed him I thought he would be a canny box to box midfielder but I'm not sure he's got the legs for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 To be fair, everyone I know away from here who goes to the game has had enough of Colback now. Yet he gets virtually no stick at the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I still don't think there's any reason that he can't make that position his own in his own way. He's had the chances and missed them, I'd be much more concerned if he wasn't getting those chances at all. He's still someone that I see as being an effective player in that position once he (hopefully) sorts his end product out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 There's absolutely no way he's the medium or long term answer to that position, though. The Norwich game being a very good example of us looking instantly better with another striker on the field instead of a square peg in a round hole. I'd definitely like to see him in CM with Shelvey at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 It would be a good idea, but if Rafa's going to persevere with it, I think it'll work out. It really is just his finishing that's letting him down. You know how it is, a player scores one or two and suddenly their whole performance is seen in a different light. I suppose it depends what you mean by long-term. I think it can work this full season, but obviously not beyond that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 As if its only his finishing that's letting him down. His all round game has been extremely underwhelming on an individual level. Possibly because he's in the wrong position, possibly not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Would like to see him in Shelvey's position tonight, we need to find an alternative to Shelvey as he can't play there every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 As if its only his finishing that's letting him down. His all round game has been extremely underwhelming on an individual level. Possibly because he's in the wrong position, possibly not. I disagree, he's had good moments and bad moments. If he'd finished the chances he'd had, the overall perception of him would be totally different. Look at Gayle, he hasn't played badly aside from him goals, but chances/goals are pretty much his sole contribution. He's a quiet player aside from that. Perez scored and assisted the other day and suddenly the last 18 months never happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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