LionOfGosforth Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Just a reminder lads that we're in the Championship. We're not going to go into the season with 4 Premiership quality centre halves Maybe he's completely s**** I dunno, but any opinion of him comes exclusively as a Premiership footballer. Not a big fan of either of the centre halves we've signed to be honest but it's reasonable (for the level we're competing at for at least a season) quality depth we haven't had in years, if Rafa sees something in these players, let's give them all the benefit of the doubt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Mainly because Lascelles had hardly played a minute mind. Looked crap in pre season iirc Meant in competitive games, pre season is meaningless to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Also remember that Wes Morgan has just captained Leicester City to the Premiership title. Should have been called up for England tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Just a reminder lads that we're in the Championship. We're not going to go into the season with 4 Premiership quality centre halves Maybe he's completely s**** I dunno, but any opinion of him comes exclusively as a Premiership footballer. Not a big fan of either of the centre halves we've signed to be honest but it's reasonable (for the level we're competing at) quality depth we haven't had in years, if Rafa sees something in these players, let's give them all the benefit of the doubt for at least a year Aye. I mean I agree with people that Rafa's transfer record isn't perfect, but I trust him to have a quality functioning side come the start of the season, even if everyone is not a hit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Just a reminder lads that we're in the Championship. We're not going to go into the season with 4 Premiership quality centre halves Maybe he's completely s**** I dunno, but any opinion of him comes exclusively as a Premiership footballer. Not a big fan of either of the centre halves we've signed to be honest but it's reasonable (for the level we're competing at) quality depth we haven't had in years, if Rafa sees something in these players, let's give them all the benefit of the doubt for at least a year Aye. I mean I agree with people that Rafa's transfer record isn't perfect, but I trust him to have a quality functioning side come the start of the season, even if everyone is not a hit. We're selling players who don't want to be here anymore for decent fees and using this dosh to actually build a squad that can withstand 50+ games. Regardless of the perceived quality of some individuals, there's method in any apparent madness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Never fully got this Rafa has been poor in the market during his time at Liverpool. If anything over the last few years has shown us, Liverpool as a club are generally very hit and miss. Not too sure Rafa can be fully blamed for a lot of those transfers. Not that he hasn't signed the odd dud, but anybody who's been in the game as long as he has, will have done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Not sure but Google hoyed up this... http://www.avillafan.com/22666/keep-clark-at-the-core/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Never fully got this Rafa has been poor in the market during his time at Liverpool. If anything over the last few years has shown us, Liverpool as a club are generally very hit and miss. Not too sure Rafa can be fully blamed for a lot of those transfers. Not that he hasn't signed the odd dud, but anybody who's been in the game as long as he has, will have done. http://liverpoolfc.wikia.com/wiki/Rafael_Benitez/Transfers A lot of trash signings to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Smuggler Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Baffling signing really, he has without doubt been one of the worst defenders in the PL for the last few years. Would personally rather have one of our youngsters gaining experience as 4th choice than Clark. Being versatile is not really a plus when you're crap in each position. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 What youngsters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Wasn't it him who dived in and made that shite tackle that lead to Lukaku's goal at the Euros? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Wasn't it him who dived in and made that shite tackle that lead to Lukaku's goal at the Euros? Aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 What youngsters? Aren't our centrebacks youngsters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Not a fan of this guy at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Paul Dummett is a youngster. Or is at least treat like one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Rafa is so good at organising a back four and givin them protection. I trust him on this fully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 People are massively overreacting. Is he an inspiring signing? No. However, to win the championship we have to go from one of the smallest squads in English football to one of the biggest. We've already made 5-6 signings, with another 4 mooted. They aren't all going to be 10-12m Premier league starting players. This is one of the reasons you dont want to get relegated. Your player pool gets dramatically reduced. £5m for a player who can cover 3 positions, has shown potential in the past (he can't be too bad if he got an Ireland call up for the Euro's)and will be deployed in a league where Keogh is classed as one of the stand out CB's, under the managerment of defensive mastermind Rafa Benitez, I am sure he will be fine. We have all been crying out for some depth for so long, lets not forget that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 He's Villa's Stevie Bantz. Don't want him but happy to trust Rafa on this for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 If Rafa wants him fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 A year ago I would have thrown my toys out of the pram if we were about to sign this guy, but a year on we are in the championship and managed by someone who has a clue, so think this could be a good move, we need the bodies if nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Can he put in a good fist pump? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Why on earth have you done this? I find it pretty amazing he even has a release clause. Well this is fantastic who's your centre back pairing now then? Okore and Elphick maybe? I don't mind Clark as s personality- he isn't one of the toxic cunts I loathe most, he's just one of the dross players who have made far too many appearances for us He's got the positional sense of a flat satnav. Exceptionally good, just needs to be recharged (by an inspirational leader such as Rafa)? Class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Villa fan mate of mine: Overall a good, "old fashioned" centre half. Committed, loves a tackle, and will always give 100%. However, he does have a mistake in him. Look at Ireland at the euros! Enjoys an own goal or 2 and does make mistakes. BUT he can be very good on his day Meh. So he's a younger Saylor. Great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Every decent side has a few grafters that can come I'm and do a job. The guy has experience, but potentially he could be playing in a better side than he's used to so we don't really know how he'll do. He's done well for Ireland at times.. who highly over achieved given how limited they are. Rafa will have seen something worth signing.. probably to challenge Dummett at LB.. definitely the right sort of character Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Villa fan mate of mine: Overall a good, "old fashioned" centre half. Committed, loves a tackle, and will always give 100%. However, he does have a mistake in him. Look at Ireland at the euros! Enjoys an own goal or 2 and does make mistakes. BUT he can be very good on his day Meh. So he's a younger Saylor. Great. But without the constant injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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