Holloway Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Couldn't get near Ayew either, 2nd half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 No one to blame but the players who missed all of the clear cut chances we made. Team was fine, performance was fine, plenty of chances created, subs were ok, players fluffing their lines cost us. Don't take your chances when they come then you've got no one else to blame but yourself. Didn't finish them off and it's cost us 2 points today. Disagree. I'm 100% a Rafa guy but the approach to subs was passive. The midfield were dead on their feet and not replaced early enough. Yeah, Diame should have been off sooner and I thought Shelvey was ineffective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 As obvious a result as there is when you don't take your chances. The last two matches have been clichés. That has to be a concern that we don't seem to be putting many of these chances away. We had 18 attempts at goal and still had to rely on an own goal to score. None of our strikers is really stepping up so far, and in this division that's what ultimately sets you apart from the rest. Also a bit worried by our lack of pace in forward areas, Yedlin stood out a mile with his runs down the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Do think people are going a bit OTT like. We absolutely played them off the park first half. Finishing let us down. That and previous comment about two points thrown away sums it up perfectly. Positives though, apart from the final 15 minutes we bossed it, did create and really should have won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 15 minutes? Aye right. Was at least half an hour of shit with injury time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 We did play them off the park though, if we'd took our chances in the first half we'd have won this by 3 or 4 no problem. They took heart from our misses and that's what gave them the impetus to make a comeback in the last half hour or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 We were second best throughout in the second half. I fucking love Rafa and he's obviously a genius but I hate his approach to games so far at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 We were second best throughout in the second half. I fucking love Rafa and he's obviously a genius but I hate his approach to games so far at this level. Feels like driving a racing car with the hand brake on, with Rafa sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 sick of this defeating a lead just fucking go for it that's our biggest problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 If we'd signed a proper centre forward we'd be an absolute shoe in for this league. Given that Rafa will have known he was going to only play one up front this season I'm struggling to see why we bought Gayle, we got Murphy presumably because Rafa has doubts about Mitro. Gayle will not work up front on his own. It's the one area of the pitch we're struggling with. Good centre forwards are hard to find and are expensive but expecting a 5 foot 9 unimposing Palace reserve to do the business on a regular basis is a bloody big ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Chucked two points away but not the worst result in the context of the season. Still think we're another centre mid, winger and striker from dominating the league after Christmas like last time. So quite a way off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 We were second best throughout in the second half. I f***ing love Rafa and he's obviously a genius but I hate his approach to games so far at this level. I quite like Rafa and he's obviously quite a good manager, but this one forward only and general defensive setup is not only boring and unnecessary but might cost us promotion. This is definitely not 2009 again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 This is definitely not 2009 again. We started similar last time. 12 games in we'd won 6, drawn 3, lost 3. Chances are we're going to have more points at the same stage this season as that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 We were second best throughout in the second half. I f***ing love Rafa and he's obviously a genius but I hate his approach to games so far at this level. Don't think that's quite true. We had the upper hand in the second until Diame missed. Edit: For a period after, we were still pretty comfortable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 If we'd signed a proper centre forward we'd be an absolute shoe in for this league. Given that Rafa will have known he was going to only play one up front this season I'm struggling to see why we bought Gayle, we got Murphy presumably because Rafa has doubts about Mitro. Gayle will not work up front on his own. It's the one area of the pitch we're struggling with. Good centre forwards are hard to find and are expensive but expecting a 5 foot 9 unimposing Palace reserve to do the business on a regular basis is a bloody big ask. Ironically this was one of the games where playing Gayle up front looked pretty effective, there were enough chances created to have scored half a dozen and he should definitely have had at least one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 One thing that was much more positive today was how we dealt with their pressing. They were pushing up really high, at times, and we passed it simply, were patient and created good moves from it. Assuming we worked on it after Wolves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 You should have been out of sight. That first hour was the worst we've played in years. Against forest the other week we had 29 shots and still managed not to win. It was our turn to buck the statistics this time Have to say, Benitez is a proper manager who will get you up no bother whereas Di Matteo seems to be making it up on the hoof Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 You should have been out of sight. That first hour was the worst we've played in years. Against forest the other week we had 29 shots and still managed not to win. It was our turn to buck the statistics this time Have to say, Benitez is a proper manager who will get you up no bother whereas Di Matteo seems to be making it up on the hoof That 3-5-2 he had you playing in first half was downright bizarre; needless over-tinkering which could've - probably should've - cost you the game. Instantly improved after you switched to a flat back 4. Still think you have too much firepower in your side to not be amongst the promotion places and am sure you'll be right in the mix by the end of the season. Kodjia and Ayew should score a hatful in this league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 We really should have been out of sight after 60 mins. Finishing wasn't good enough. Villa were awful first 60 mins, but tbf they played a lot better last 30 mins, and put us under pressure. I'm fine with a point as long as we beat Norwich Wednesday. Would like to see two strikers on vs Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Did Cilla win the league today? ? Celebrations seemed like it. Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 nit cilla! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 5th isn't great given we probably should be winning the league given our resources but the Championship season is so long I'm sure we'll get into a rhythm at some stage We started similar last time. 12 games in we'd won 6, drawn 3, lost 3. Chances are we're going to have more points at the same stage this season as that one. Don't think that's quite right. According to the archive on .com, after 12 games in the 2009-10 promotion season we'd won 7, drawn 3, lost 2, and were top with 24 points. And we only lost 2 more games the whole season. After 9 games (where we are now) we'd won 7, lost 1 & drawn 1. Top with 22 pts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 5th isn't great given we probably should be winning the league given our resources but the Championship season is so long I'm sure we'll get into a rhythm at some stage We started similar last time. 12 games in we'd won 6, drawn 3, lost 3. Chances are we're going to have more points at the same stage this season as that one. Don't think that's quite right. According to the archive on .com, after 12 games in the 2009-10 promotion season we'd won 7, drawn 3, lost 2, and were top with 24 points. And we only lost 2 more games the whole season. After 9 games (where we are now) we'd won 7, lost 1 & drawn 1. Top with 22 pts. http://i.imgur.com/C64Vc2W.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Ok, W 7, D 3, L 3 after 13. I knew it was something like that. I'd be surprised if in the next 4 games we don't win 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/10592351/rafa-benitez-says-newcastle-should-have-put-aston-villa-game-to-bed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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