Tiresias Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Consistency will always be an issue like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I think a red like that should be one game ban though, it's a really harsh punishment. Three game bans should be reserved for elbows, headbutts and leg breakers IMO He broke Ederson's jaw most likely He's just going for the ball though it's not like he's kicked Ederson full force in the face on purpose. Ederson is the one making the forward movement so if a player two foots someone but he's going for the ball is it not a red? No, because when you're going in two footed you are the one making the movement to recklessly go in. Mane just kind of left his foot there Left his foot in there? he fully kicked him in the face. I'd be vert surprised if Ederson hasn't got any broken bones Ederson was the one coming out full force. Mane was trying to trap the ball in the air. As I said it's a red probably but I think a three game ban is harsh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Do it two minutes into a game and you don't even get a yellow card! Fantastic consistency from the refs. And that one was worse as that player had no chance of reaching the ball, when you could argue Mane could. I agree that should have been a red, but Mane's is more dangerous just because of how fast he was flying in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrovianmag Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Do it two minutes into a game and you don't even get a yellow card! Fantastic consistency from the refs. Was thinking the same to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Carragher was bang on the money with the 'eye on the ball' nonsense like. Did he think there was going to be nobody there when he jumped in with his foot head height? Total disregard for what's around him. Clear red card. Debatable red card aside, do we ban overhead kicks then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Do it two minutes into a game and you don't even get a yellow card! Fantastic consistency from the refs. And that one was worse as that player had no chance of reaching the ball, when you could argue Mane could. I agree that should have been a red, but Mane's is more dangerous just because of how fast he was flying in. It's amazing the amount of different opinions on these things, it's why we love football like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Lots of reds are because the player has gone in with excessive force, Mane had only 1 way of getting the ball and a fraction of a second quicker and he'd have got to the ball and been cleaned out. Would the keeper have been sent off? The injury shouldn't influence the decision. I'm really not sure what else Mane could have done? I think the answer is you can't challenge with your foot that close to an opponents head at that speed full stop. You can say it's soft and all but plenty of athletes have died to head trauma. If that doesn't qualify as 'endangering the safety of a player' what on earth does? I'd call it a hospital ball, both players had to go for it and one was always likely to get hurt. If you're a competitor you're not going to not challenge for that ball. If you're someone who wouldn't go for it you wouldn't be playing in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Carragher was bang on the money with the 'eye on the ball' nonsense like. Did he think there was going to be nobody there when he jumped in with his foot head height? Total disregard for what's around him. Clear red card. Debatable red card aside, do we ban overhead kicks then? Only if someone is within 10m of you. So overhead kicks are purely for goalkeepers making unchallenged clearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Carragher was bang on the money with the 'eye on the ball' nonsense like. Did he think there was going to be nobody there when he jumped in with his foot head height? Total disregard for what's around him. Clear red card. Debatable red card aside, do we ban overhead kicks then? If you kick someone in the head then yes. If it's not endangering an oppenent, no. Shite comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjack Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I think a red like that should be one game ban though, it's a really harsh punishment. Three game bans should be reserved for elbows, headbutts and leg breakers IMO He broke Ederson's jaw most likely He's just going for the ball though it's not like he's kicked Ederson full force in the face on purpose. Ederson is the one making the forward movement so if a player two foots someone but he's going for the ball is it not a red? No, because when you're going in two footed you are the one making the movement to recklessly go in. Mane just kind of left his foot there Left his foot in there? he fully kicked him in the face. I'd be vert surprised if Ederson hasn't got any broken bones Ederson was the one coming out full force. Mane was trying to trap the ball in the air. As I said it's a red probably but I think a three game ban is harsh No, it's not harsh. How can you even say that it's harsh? Mitrovic scratched Lanzini gets up after 10 seconds, gets a 3 match ban. Mane breaks Ederson's jaw and Ederson gets carried of the pitch after 8 mins: "well, it's harsh to give him 3 match ban.." Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Neville saying that there wasn't a reaction round the ground so it didn't need to be a red card or something along those lines which is nonsese Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Not like Semtex to go completely overboard to get his view across. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Shocking reports from the medical room, keeper is actually fine. PSC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Carragher was bang on the money with the 'eye on the ball' nonsense like. Did he think there was going to be nobody there when he jumped in with his foot head height? Total disregard for what's around him. Clear red card. Debatable red card aside, do we ban overhead kicks then? If you kick someone in the head then yes. If it's not endangering an oppenent, no. s**** comparison. You could still endanger someone without actually kicking him the head, off a ball coming from a corner in a crowded box like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Neville saying that there wasn't a reaction round the ground so it didn't need to be a red card or something along those lines which is nonsese Basically asking for refs to be biased to the opinions of the crowd isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Shocking reports from the medical room, keeper is actually fine. PSC. He didn't die? No red then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Neville saying that there wasn't a reaction round the ground so it didn't need to be a red card or something along those lines which is nonsese Basically asking for refs to be biased to the opinions of the crowd isn't it? Funny how an ex man utd player has that view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Harsh red imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I think a red like that should be one game ban though, it's a really harsh punishment. Three game bans should be reserved for elbows, headbutts and leg breakers IMO He broke Ederson's jaw most likely He's just going for the ball though it's not like he's kicked Ederson full force in the face on purpose. Ederson is the one making the forward movement so if a player two foots someone but he's going for the ball is it not a red? No, because when you're going in two footed you are the one making the movement to recklessly go in. Mane just kind of left his foot there Left his foot in there? he fully kicked him in the face. I'd be vert surprised if Ederson hasn't got any broken bones Ederson was the one coming out full force. Mane was trying to trap the ball in the air. As I said it's a red probably but I think a three game ban is harsh No, it's not harsh. How can you even say that it's harsh? Mitrovic scratched Lanzini gets up after 10 seconds, gets a 3 match ban. Mane breaks Ederson's jaw and Ederson gets carried of the pitch after 8 mins: "well, it's harsh to give him 3 match ban.." Seriously? The injury shouldn't matter to the punishment, and an intended crime should always carry a greater punishment than an accidental one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Carragher was bang on the money with the 'eye on the ball' nonsense like. Did he think there was going to be nobody there when he jumped in with his foot head height? Total disregard for what's around him. Clear red card. Debatable red card aside, do we ban overhead kicks then? If you kick someone in the head then yes. If it's not endangering an oppenent, no. s**** comparison. You could still endanger someone without actually kicking him the head, off a ball coming from a corner like. It is, like many things, ref's judgement call as to if the player is out of control and reckless with the heads of the other players around him. Most overhead kicks I don't think qualify for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Carragher was bang on the money with the 'eye on the ball' nonsense like. Did he think there was going to be nobody there when he jumped in with his foot head height? Total disregard for what's around him. Clear red card. Debatable red card aside, do we ban overhead kicks then? If you kick someone in the head then yes. If it's not endangering an oppenent, no. s**** comparison. You could still endanger someone without actually kicking him the head, off a ball coming from a corner in a crowded box like. Which have resulted in free kicks for years now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Mane returns for the game against us. Naturally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Neville saying that there wasn't a reaction round the ground so it didn't need to be a red card or something along those lines which is nonsese Basically asking for refs to be biased to the opinions of the crowd isn't it? Just think it's a daft thing to say when no one thought it was a red at first on TV or in the ground but after replays it's clear he kicks him in the head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 With the new rules or guidelines on head injuries, isn't the ref supposed to order any player off who looks a bit groggy in case they are concussed? If that is the case, you have to take a much stricter line on fouls to the head because they are more likely to end up with the opponent off the pitch. 3-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Carragher was bang on the money with the 'eye on the ball' nonsense like. Did he think there was going to be nobody there when he jumped in with his foot head height? Total disregard for what's around him. Clear red card. Debatable red card aside, do we ban overhead kicks then? If you kick someone in the head then yes. If it's not endangering an oppenent, no. s**** comparison. You could still endanger someone without actually kicking him the head, off a ball coming from a corner in a crowded box like. Which have resulted in free kicks for years now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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