Shearergol Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Yea I think it's a red But his head is stooped half a foot. Soft c***. The ball not playable by foot when it's 5ft in the air anymore like? Head height rules it is then. But he's not played the ball, he's fouled the opponent dangerously. It's a red all day long man. People with this 'gane's gone soft' bolloxks over that. Looks conclusive from that photo mind. As neville pointed out, it was always going to look bad. In real time it was a bog standard 50/50. Pretty much every ex pro is saying it's an atrocious decision. Non-contact by the end of the year. Arm them all with nunchucks and switchblades, good old days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Yea I think it's a red But his head is stooped half a foot. Soft c***. The ball not playable by foot when it's 5ft in the air anymore like? Head height rules it is then. But he's not played the ball, he's fouled the opponent dangerously. It's a red all day long man. People with this 'gane's gone soft' bolloxks over that. Looks conclusive from that photo mind. As neville pointed out, it was always going to look bad. In real time it was a bog standard 50/50. Pretty much every ex pro is saying it's an atrocious decision. Non-contact by the end of the year. Bet if an opposition player did that to Me nufc player most people would be up in arms.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I think a red like that should be one game ban though, it's a really harsh punishment. Three game bans should be reserved for elbows, headbutts and leg breakers IMO He broke Ederson's jaw most likely He's just going for the ball though it's not like he's kicked Ederson full force in the face on purpose. Ederson is the one making the forward movement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Yea I think it's a red But his head is stooped half a foot. Soft c***. The ball not playable by foot when it's 5ft in the air anymore like? Head height rules it is then. But he's not played the ball, he's fouled the opponent dangerously. It's a red all day long man. People with this 'gane's gone soft' bolloxks over that. Looks conclusive from that photo mind. As neville pointed out, it was always going to look bad. In real time it was a bog standard 50/50. Pretty much every ex pro is saying it's an atrocious decision. Non-contact by the end of the year. Bet if an opposition player did that to Me nufc player most people would be up in arms.... Obviously, me included. Baying for the red like a dog in heat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Yea I think it's a red But his head is stooped half a foot. Soft c***. The ball not playable by foot when it's 5ft in the air anymore like? Head height rules it is then. But he's not played the ball, he's fouled the opponent dangerously. It's a red all day long man. People with this 'gane's gone soft' bolloxks over that. Looks conclusive from that photo mind. As neville pointed out, it was always going to look bad. In real time it was a bog standard 50/50. Pretty much every ex pro is saying it's an atrocious decision. Non-contact by the end of the year. And most '50-50s' if you're out of control are late, miss the ball, and endanger an opponent, then you're rightfully sent off. If someone goes over the top of the ball and cracks someone in the shin, even though a high percentage of those challenges are normally still a genuine attempt to get the ball, you should still be sent off man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I think a red like that should be one game ban though, it's a really harsh punishment. Three game bans should be reserved for elbows, headbutts and leg breakers IMO He broke Ederson's jaw most likely He's just going for the ball though it's not like he's kicked Ederson full force in the face on purpose. Ederson is the one making the forward movement intent is irrelevant according to the laws of the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 HT. They were both good deliveries for the goals, but there is a big soft center in the middle of the Liverpool defence. They've nearly been badly caught playing it out a couple of times too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Whether it's malicious or not doesn't really matter, it's a really dangerous play. Red all day long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I just transferred Mané this week into my FF team. This is ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I think a red like that should be one game ban though, it's a really harsh punishment. Three game bans should be reserved for elbows, headbutts and leg breakers IMO He broke Ederson's jaw most likely He's just going for the ball though it's not like he's kicked Ederson full force in the face on purpose. Ederson is the one making the forward movement so if a player two foots someone but he's going for the ball is it not a red? No, because when you're going in two footed you are the one making the movement to recklessly go in. Mane just kind of left his foot there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjack Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 If Mitrovic or Shelvey did this, would you all defend them? This isn't even a debate, this is for red card. Mane's karate kick >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitrovic's elbowing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Thought it was harsh initially when I saw it but the more you watch it the more it looks like a red Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Also, Real Madrid drawing at home with Ronaldo banned and Benzema injured. That's when you'd like to have somebody like Morata to call on. I still don't understand why they haven't signed a striker this window. I guess they'll still win the game, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Lots of reds are because the player has gone in with excessive force, Mane had only 1 way of getting the ball and a fraction of a second quicker and he'd have got to the ball and been cleaned out. Would the keeper have been sent off? The injury shouldn't influence the decision. I'm really not sure what else Mane could have done? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Jamie "Soft cunt" Carragher Lots of reds are because the player has gone in with excessive force, Mane had only 1 way of getting the ball and a fraction of a second quicker and he'd have got to the ball and been cleaned out. Would the keeper have been sent off? The injury shouldn't influence the decision. I'm really not sure what else Mane could have done? Yes, if the rules are applied correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Carracher reckons red, not even a foul then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 If that tackle went in at knee level there wouldn't even be a debate about it, clear red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Even carragher says red card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Lots of reds are because the player has gone in with excessive force, Mane had only 1 way of getting the ball and a fraction of a second quicker and he'd have got to the ball and been cleaned out. Would the keeper have been sent off? The injury shouldn't influence the decision. I'm really not sure what else Mane could have done? If Mane got the ball first, didn't touch the keeper and the keeper took him out then the keeper would have been sent off like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Lots of reds are because the player has gone in with excessive force, Mane had only 1 way of getting the ball and a fraction of a second quicker and he'd have got to the ball and been cleaned out. Would the keeper have been sent off? The injury shouldn't influence the decision. I'm really not sure what else Mane could have done? yes he would have, stopping a clear goalscoring chance in that scenario Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 If that tackle went in at knee level there wouldn't even be a debate about it, clear red. If he'd used a claw hammer it would have been a red card too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Do it two minutes into a game and you don't even get a yellow card! Fantastic consistency from the refs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Lots of reds are because the player has gone in with excessive force, Mane had only 1 way of getting the ball and a fraction of a second quicker and he'd have got to the ball and been cleaned out. Would the keeper have been sent off? The injury shouldn't influence the decision. I'm really not sure what else Mane could have done? I think the answer is you can't challenge with your foot that close to an opponents head at that speed full stop. You can say it's soft and all but plenty of athletes have died to head trauma. If that doesn't qualify as 'endangering the safety of a player' what on earth does? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Do it two minutes into a game and you don't even get a yellow card! Fantastic consistency from the refs. And that one was worse as that player had no chance of reaching the ball, when you could argue Mane could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Carragher was bang on the money with the 'eye on the ball' nonsense like. Did he think there was going to be nobody there when he jumped in with his foot head height? Total disregard for what's around him. Clear red card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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