TheBrownBottle Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 On 15/12/2024 at 04:11, Ellis H said: Indeed. Funny thing about him is that he’d be loved by us in the early to mid-90’s teams. Extremely likeable, works really hard and can score and assist when called upon. Now he’s treated as something we must suffer through. He definitely would have - I also think he’s as good a player as Gillespie or Fox, both of whom were good but limited. The PL has improved massively since then, mind. But the lad doesn’t deserve the pelters he gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 On 15/12/2024 at 06:03, Ellis H said: Yeah, I was thinking about those reliable, fringe type players like Watson, Sellars, Fox, Gillespie etc. He’ll be on stage at the Tyne Theatre in 30 years telling stories about this period. None of those four players were fringe players, mind. Sellars, Fox and Gillespie were all first choice for most of their NUFC careers; Watson was towards the end of his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 Gillespie was definitely better than Murphy like. Be quite a distance when he was younger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 55 minutes ago, Leazes1986 said: Gillespie was definitely better than Murphy like. Be quite a distance when he was younger. English football was really poor in the ‘90s, so I’m not entirely sure he was. Was at his best before Phil Neville crocked him halfway through 95/96. Gillespie’s output was roughly the same as Murphy’s has been under Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 When he plays, he brings balance to the team. Which in itself underlines the need to spend on a top quality RW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 Has to start for us on the right unless we get someone else in. Needs to stop coming deep to get on the ball against good teams because his ball retention under pressure is woeful and can't pick a pass when being closed down. Needs to stay out wide and receive it wide, or in transition. As productive with assists as Barnes is with goals. Gets ahead of Barnes for me on the right and ahead of Gordon too. Keep it up Jacob you're doing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 8 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: None of those four players were fringe players, mind. Sellars, Fox and Gillespie were all first choice for most of their NUFC careers; Watson was towards the end of his. Sellars was probably the diametric opposite of Murphy. Didn't have a load of pace, but had a lovely touch and first pass. He was ahead of his time really, probably a bit too delicate for football in the '90s but he had a wand of a left foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 (edited) Lot to be said for that as much as I don't rate Murphy as a footballer at all. Sellars absence through injury was probably the first time the loss of balance vividly had a negative effect on the team in my experience. Can't have been a coincidence our goals, Cole's in particular, dried up and the results dipped. We were top at the time I believe. Likewise losing Gillespie the year after. RIght to sell Fox and Sellars without hindsight, but they could have made all the diference in the world to fill in for Gillespie. Edited December 16 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted Wednesday at 21:13 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:13 good shift Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted Wednesday at 21:18 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:18 (edited) Yeah, decent shift overall. Good effort as always from him. More target practice needed though Edited Wednesday at 21:18 by M4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted Wednesday at 21:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:26 (edited) On 16/12/2024 at 08:29, Leazes1986 said: Gillespie was definitely better than Murphy like. Be quite a distance when he was younger. Gillespie was a lazy get for 90% of the time but gets brushed over cos of 'that game against Barcelona'. Genuinely cannot recall a single goal he scored for us He might have looked more flashy than Murphy, but Murphy has contributed far more in his admittedly longer time here Edited Wednesday at 21:28 by gjohnson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted Wednesday at 21:32 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:32 On 16/12/2024 at 16:01, TRon said: Sellars was probably the diametric opposite of Murphy. Didn't have a load of pace, but had a lovely touch and first pass. He was ahead of his time really, probably a bit too delicate for football in the '90s but he had a wand of a left foot. So Viana was basically his regen for the 00s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted Wednesday at 22:27 Share Posted Wednesday at 22:27 Very good shift from him today, i was actually surprised he was taken off for Barnes as he was helping the defense a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Wednesday at 22:30 Share Posted Wednesday at 22:30 Noticed in the last couple of games he's got a prettty good left peg. Hit a couple of really sweet shots from that side. He's really got some good qualities, if he had a better touch and a bit more awareness, he could have been a helluva player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted Wednesday at 22:37 Share Posted Wednesday at 22:37 1 hour ago, gjohnson said: Gillespie was a lazy get for 90% of the time but gets brushed over cos of 'that game against Barcelona'. Genuinely cannot recall a single goal he scored for us He might have looked more flashy than Murphy, but Murphy has contributed far more in his admittedly longer time here Gillespie was miles ahead man, have a word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted Wednesday at 22:41 Share Posted Wednesday at 22:41 He's in one of his productive spells, and it's a more than reasonable watch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted Wednesday at 23:09 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:09 30 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Gillespie was miles ahead man, have a word. More spectacular as a winger. Wouldn't have been in our current set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted Wednesday at 23:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:29 Does anywhere track post hits? I’d love to see his numbers on that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted Thursday at 00:56 Share Posted Thursday at 00:56 (edited) 2 hours ago, TRon said: Noticed in the last couple of games he's got a prettty good left peg. Hit a couple of really sweet shots from that side. He's really got some good qualities, if he had a better touch and a bit more awareness, he could have been a helluva player. Would say quite the opposite actually. His left footed efforts have been poor and shows he needs to work on it if he's playing from the right and cutting in. There was the first chance against Leicester when you watch back really shouldn't have been hard to put on target at this level and then here was a similar one tonight. But take nothing away, he has a decent right peg and as have said a few times recently, balance in teams is vastly underated and you can have lesser players in great teams if they know and play their position well. Edited Thursday at 00:57 by alexf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted Thursday at 01:26 Share Posted Thursday at 01:26 I give him a load of stick, possibly unfairly. Thought he was good tonight. Unlucky not to score, couple of decent efforts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted yesterday at 15:07 Share Posted yesterday at 15:07 Hahaha there he is again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted yesterday at 15:08 Share Posted yesterday at 15:08 He's been brilliant lately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted yesterday at 15:16 Share Posted yesterday at 15:16 He's a weapon. Just don't give him time to think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted yesterday at 15:33 Share Posted yesterday at 15:33 On fire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted yesterday at 15:33 Share Posted yesterday at 15:33 16 minutes ago, La Parka said: He's a weapon. Just don't give him time to think. Exactly it On a great run at the minute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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