Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 The only game he has started he was subbed because he was shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Clearly low on confidence, but some of the comments in here are ridiculous. Which ones are ridiculous? He's been absolutely shit for every minute he's been on the pitch for us; not just a bit rough around the edges or finding his feet - but consistently poor. Sick of seeing him being brought on and he needs to go - preferably on loan. Well this comment is ridiculous for a start. Young player absolutely shot on confidence and clearly not ready for the Premier League... yes I can see why the suggestion of a loan is quite bizarre. What am I on. Tbf Yorkie you basically said ""sell him or loan him" it was slightly overboard like. I don't think selling him should be in anyone's minds yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 The only game he has started he was subbed because he was shite. Best hang him then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I'd be starting him if Atsu, Ritchie and Aarons each had had their legs removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Playing him is certainly not the answer. If it is a confidence thing then he needs to be nowhere near the team until it's back. No-one said it is easy to play under the pressure of SJP, it's definitely not a place for mentally frail players. I don't think it's a confidence issue though. Just think he isn't cut out for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Clearly low on confidence, but some of the comments in here are ridiculous. Which ones are ridiculous? He's been absolutely shit for every minute he's been on the pitch for us; not just a bit rough around the edges or finding his feet - but consistently poor. Sick of seeing him being brought on and he needs to go - preferably on loan. Well this comment is ridiculous for a start. Young player absolutely shot on confidence and clearly not ready for the Premier League... yes I can see why the suggestion of a loan is quite bizarre. What am I on. Tbf Yorkie you basically said ""sell him or loan him" it was slightly overboard like. I don't think selling him should be in anyone's minds yet. I said I'd rather see him loaned out but if, by some stroke of fate, someone offered the same £10m for him I'd snap their hands off. We haven't got time for players with absolutely nowt going for them, which is what he's shown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Clearly low on confidence, but some of the comments in here are ridiculous. Which ones are ridiculous? He's been absolutely shit for every minute he's been on the pitch for us; not just a bit rough around the edges or finding his feet - but consistently poor. Sick of seeing him being brought on and he needs to go - preferably on loan. Well this comment is ridiculous for a start. Young player absolutely shot on confidence and clearly not ready for the Premier League... yes I can see why the suggestion of a loan is quite bizarre. What am I on. Nee idea what you're on, but he's 22, been here like 3 months, and played 10 minutes at a time. The suggestion that he 'needs to go -preferably on loan' when we signed him from the next level down where he's already proven himself is a bit short sighted imo. Confidence is obviously the problem, sending him out on loan to where he's already proven himself isn't the only solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Atsu was good today but has been pretty shite for most of the season so far like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 He doesn't even look quick which is a problem. If you haven't got good feet or any other obvious skill you'd want him to at least have pace :-/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Clearly low on confidence, but some of the comments in here are ridiculous. Which ones are ridiculous? He's been absolutely shit for every minute he's been on the pitch for us; not just a bit rough around the edges or finding his feet - but consistently poor. Sick of seeing him being brought on and he needs to go - preferably on loan. Well this comment is ridiculous for a start. Young player absolutely shot on confidence and clearly not ready for the Premier League... yes I can see why the suggestion of a loan is quite bizarre. What am I on. Nee idea what you're on, but he's 22, been here like 3 months, and played 10 minutes at a time. The suggestion that he 'needs to go -preferably on loan' when we signed him from the next level down where he's already proven himself is a bit short sighted imo. Confidence is obviously the problem, sending him out on loan to where he's already proven himself isn't the only solution. This is usually a fair argument and one I've used several times for other players; but he's shown nothing. Anyways, he won't be going anywhere so I'm arguing for the sake of it here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I'm still pissed off we spent £12M on this guy when we have Aarons in that position ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Clearly low on confidence, but some of the comments in here are ridiculous. Which ones are ridiculous? He's been absolutely shit for every minute he's been on the pitch for us; not just a bit rough around the edges or finding his feet - but consistently poor. Sick of seeing him being brought on and he needs to go - preferably on loan. Well this comment is ridiculous for a start. Young player absolutely shot on confidence and clearly not ready for the Premier League... yes I can see why the suggestion of a loan is quite bizarre. What am I on. Tbf Yorkie you basically said ""sell him or loan him" it was slightly overboard like. I don't think selling him should be in anyone's minds yet. I said I'd rather see him loaned out but if, by some stroke of fate, someone offered the same £10m for him I'd snap their hands off. We haven't got time for players with absolutely nowt going for them, which is what he's shown. So an even more ridiculous a comment at this stage Yorkie . You said yourself he's young and it's a confidence issue, just giving up on his talent and selling him would be ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I still don't understand why so many are calling for Aarons like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Ah don't worry, at least we'll get re-sale value on the guy who never plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I'm still pissed off we spent £12M on this guy when we have Aarons in that position ffs. And Joselu/ineffective 'tens' starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Clearly low on confidence, but some of the comments in here are ridiculous. Which ones are ridiculous? He's been absolutely shit for every minute he's been on the pitch for us; not just a bit rough around the edges or finding his feet - but consistently poor. Sick of seeing him being brought on and he needs to go - preferably on loan. Well this comment is ridiculous for a start. Young player absolutely shot on confidence and clearly not ready for the Premier League... yes I can see why the suggestion of a loan is quite bizarre. What am I on. Tbf Yorkie you basically said ""sell him or loan him" it was slightly overboard like. I don't think selling him should be in anyone's minds yet. I said I'd rather see him loaned out but if, by some stroke of fate, someone offered the same £10m for him I'd snap their hands off. We haven't got time for players with absolutely nowt going for them, which is what he's shown. So even more ridiculous a comment at this stage Yorkie. You said yourself he's young and it's a confidence issue, just giving up on his talent and selling him would be ridiculous. See previous comment, really. Worse players have shown considerably more than he has by this stage. But like I say, it's a moot point because neeone's gonna be daft enough to pay money for him after his start here. Hopefully he'll get better but I can't see it and stand by my sentiment. *sassy fingerclick* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I’d prefer Aarons coming off the bench because he’s clearlly a confidant lad and has been effective in that role before. Murphy off the bench is literally nothing until he finds a bit of confidance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I still don't understand why so many are calling for Aarons like. Aarons produced a worse 45 minutes in his last start in the Championship than what Murphy's given so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 They don't even strictly play in the same position anyway. Aaron's is left usually, and Murphy right. I think a lot of our fans are just not used to the concept of depth in the squad through our years spent lacking it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Atsu was good today but has been pretty shite for most of the season so far like. Disagree with that. Think he's been our best/only threat going forward in most games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Which is a testament to how stunningly shite we are going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Was him losing ball that turned into corner they scored from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Was him losing ball that turned into corner they scored from? I think he failed to keep he ball on 3 or 4 occasions. Think what we could have bought with his £10m. Add on Joselu at £5m and you can see how the limited funds have been shat down the Netty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Needs a few games in the reserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 We've spent £15m on him and Joselu. This could have gotten us a proper PL striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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