Bimpy474 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Good news but ffs why don't we just buy him, well anyone at this stage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 If Rafa's budget is as fucking tiny as would be typical then I'm all for a loan here if we can buy him at the end of it. With the remaining budget we need to be buying the best striker we can afford, followed by a #10, followed by a right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Good news but ffs why don't we just buy him, well anyone at this stage If we have a limited budget (of course we fucking do!), why wouldn't we loan him? It frees up money for other players. Get an option on him and it's a cracking deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 If Rafa's budget is as fucking tiny as would be typical then I'm all for a loan here if we can buy him at the end of it. With the remaining budget we need to be buying the best striker we can afford, followed by a #10, followed by a right back. With Mbemba, Merino and Mitro off we should have almost £40m plus whatever he gets off Jabba. Not that we will spend it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Ideal world - money saved on the fee put towards other players. Real world - guess who wins again and we play this game next summer with the "earmarked money" mysteriously disappeared. Will be huge to get him back though. Disappointing that means no chance of lotus cheek though, as slim a chance of that there was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Loan with obligation to buy would be perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Good news but ffs why don't we just buy him, well anyone at this stage If we have a limited budget (of course we fucking do!), why wouldn't we loan him? It frees up money for other players. Get an option on him and it's a cracking deal. Don't get me wrong i actually don't mind loans and i understand it might be better for the overall budget. I suppose it's how you see things, personally i think it's another loan because we won't pay what they want, and until Rafa seeing willing he won't sign a new deal. It's a short term fix for a problem that could be solved long term, if we properly backed the world class manager we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Not sure where Loftus would fit into our system anyway, tbh. At least as a starter. Kenedy is one of he first names on the teamsheet if he comes back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I think this deal will be fixed financially like the Merino deal, loan signing with option to buy and no doubt clauses inserted, hopefully a much bigger fee if there are any buyback or release clauses of course. I could be wrong, but I don’t think the club can afford or are willing to no doubt break our transfer record in one any given outlay even if it’s spread. Just yet anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Would be shocked if chelsea didnt want a buy in put in therw now baring in mind he is out of contract the season after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Would be shocked if chelsea didnt want a buy in put in therw now baring in mind he is out of contract the season after. They'll be happy he can't play against them next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Happy to see the lad come back - but hopefully it needs an obligation to buy clause, for next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Loan with obligation to buy would be perfect. I’d prefer loan with option to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Mail article for those that don't want to give them clicks Chelsea's exciting winger Kenedy has agreed to join Newcastle on a season-long loan after a successful first stint at St James' Park last season. The Brazilian is a fans' favourite in the North East after spending the last four months of the season there, and Rafael Benitez has since moved to re-sign the 22-year-old. Kenedy netted twice in 13 games, both against Southampton, during his initial stint at Newcastle, but his temporary spell saw fans desperate for him to return in 2018-19 That move is now nearing completion, as Chelsea allow the youngster some further first-team football opportunities away from Stamford Bridge. There is plenty still to sort in west London with Chelsea's managerial situation in doubt, and Antonio Conte taking pre-season training despite his expected exit in the coming weeks. Maurizio Sarri is waiting in the wings to take over on a £5.6million-a-year contract, as Chelsea look to end the long-running saga. Kenedy's loan move looks set for completion before Sarri's arrival, as Newcastle get their man amid some competition from rivals. RB Leipzig, Paris Saint-Germain and Bayern Munich had all taken note of his performances last season, with a view to a potential loan move. Kenedy enjoyed his time at St James' Park last season though, and is understood to be happy to return for a longer spell under Benitez. The Brazilian has been on the books at Chelsea since 2015 but he has only started five Premier League games for the Stamford Bridge outfit. His contract is due to expire in 2020. Two pretty unflattering photos of him in the article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I’ve heard, pinch of salt I realise, that it’s done. Only a loan though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 As much as an option to buy would be amazing, if Chelsea aren't interested in that and we can still have him for a season, I'm happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Not ideal but if we get him for the season then better than nothing. We really are fucked with this twat in charge of us though. (MA not Rafa obviously) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Chuffed to get him back but concerned if we're only wanting to loan. We're so tight. It's hardly going to convince Rafa to stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I'll be pissed off with no option to buy. Means we get an absolute quality player that we will just have to sell at the end. Just pay his worth or get an option Do we just walk away from Kenedy if Chelsea don't want to sell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 It’s an ideal deal for us. His stock has gone way up since his loan stint so it’s good for Chelsea too. He’s only ever going to get a random sub appearance for them anyway. Another good season will ensure we pay somewhere between 18-25m which is unreal given that he’s never done anything much for his parent club. Plus if it turns out his first stint was a one off, we’re not under an obligation to purchase. But for this window it means Rafa will have more cash to spend on a striker, whoever it may be. Smart business by the club this summer so far. Wee bit ruthless if they let Ritchie go but Rafa knows what he’s doing. We still need some cover at the back too. Clark has done his bit for us but not good enough to stand in for Lascelles of Lejeune if they get injured or suspended. If Mbemba does leave we’re way too light at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 It's good for Rafa either way. If he's not committing his own future, then a year loan would be perfect to see his own time through here, Kenedy would go a long way to keeping us safe for another season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Another good season will ensure we pay somewhere between 18-25m, which is unreal Of course its unreal, though not the way you meant it. Another good season for us will see his value top 30m at minimum. Paper-talk had that figure mooted as Chelsea's asking price now! An ideal deal would have been with an option to buy based on a decent loan fee with a set fee at the end of that loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 If there ended up being no option to buy, that article says he'll only have a year left on his contract by the end of this coming season. Could make him affordable on a permanent? Who am I kidding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 It’s an ideal deal for us. His stock has gone way up since his loan stint so it’s good for Chelsea too. He’s only ever going to get a random sub appearance for them anyway. Another good season will ensure we pay somewhere between 18-25m which is unreal given that he’s never done anything much for his parent club. Plus if it turns out his first stint was a one off, we’re not under an obligation to purchase. But for this window it means Rafa will have more cash to spend on a striker, whoever it may be. Smart business by the club this summer so far. Wee bit ruthless if they let Ritchie go but Rafa knows what he’s doing. We still need some cover at the back too. Clark has done his bit for us but not good enough to stand in for Lascelles of Lejeune if they get injured or suspended. If Mbemba does leave we’re way too light at the back. Still think he'd be okay with Lascelles, but I'd rather have better. But then we already need to replace Mbemba with somebody who can cover for Lascelles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Chelsea are in the driving seat so fuck knows what will happen. Some news shitehawks are claiming that they are stating they just want to sell him now, so why not just offer what they want and defer the payment until next summer (if they can agree to that) They can afford it.. although more signs that Abramovic is going slightly the way of Mike Ashley in his running of the club.. sell to buy etc. Could complicate matters. I’d bet on the Russian in that stand off.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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