Other clubs' transfers

[Ben]

Saudi window closes tomorrow so they are cutting it fine if they want any of our players 

[alexf]

But why the inflated fee's? I get the need to pay the players higher wages. But why should it make a difference to a club where the player is going. If anything it's better for them when players go to Saudi as they won't face them in the same league or Europe. 

 

Sure in January teams will ask for larger fees to let players go. But we have seen these high transfer fees in the summers aswell. 

[gjohnson]

5 minutes ago, Ben said:

Saudi window closes tomorrow so they are cutting it fine if they want any of our players 

They don't...they just want to boost the clubs around us....and possibly dig man u out of their hole

[NE27]

Saudis are just building a strong case to allow us to flog players left right and centre for stonking fee's like everyone else in the league.

 

Not really, they're just pushing their league interests. Probably not much deeper than that.

 

[Elric]

Any hint of an inflated fee where we're concerned = immediate investigation over fair market value

 

Other clubs = partridgeshrug.gif

 

... is basically what it is. 

 

 

[madras]

26 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Don't think it's particularly fishy. PIF want the domestic league to be a serious player. Providing its clubs with the cash to buy players who legitimise it is the game here.

You don't think up to 90mill for Mitoma is fishy ? At that rate Murphy is a 75mill player.

[mighty__mag]

I'd be ripping their hand off for Mitoma, he literally had a Miggy season, then just been average ever since. 

[JUICE690]

Mitoma for north of 50 mil is nuts. Hardly a stand out player in the league and he'll be 28 in a few months so it's not like he's going to improve. Weird (and equally frustrating) one this.

[Menace]

Pretty obvious they value their league ahead of us like, just shit they are strengthening direct rivals.

[et tu brute]

7 minutes ago, Menace said:

Pretty obvious they value their league ahead of us like, just shit they are strengthening direct rivals.

Not their fault that the deadwood we have are so bad or have turned down moves. Or would you rather they come and buy our top players?

[Ellis H]

Since Mitoma signed (in the league only)

 

Mitoma - 35 G/A in 62.6 games

Murphy - 28 G/A in 40.7 games

[gdm]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

Don't think it's particularly fishy. PIF want the domestic league to be a serious player. Providing its clubs with the cash to buy players who legitimise it is the game here.

£90m for Mitoma is pretty mental 

[Kaizero]

11 minutes ago, Ellis H said:

Since Mitoma signed (in the league only)

 

Mitoma - 35 G/A in 62.6 games

Murphy - 28 G/A in 40.7 games

 

Of players with 15 or more appearances for NUFC, Murphy has the 11th highest Assists per Minute ratio of all NUFC players during the PL era.

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Kaizero

[Kaizero]

2 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

Of players with 15 or more appearances for NUFC, Murphy has the 11th highest Assists per Minute ratio of all NUFC players during the PL era.

 

 

 

 

Top 25, for anyone curious:

1. Asprilla - 1 in 186
2. Carroll - 1 in 243
3. Viana - 1 in 270
4. Marveux - 1 in 276
5. Sellars - 1 in 305
6. Solano - 1 in 326
7. Cole - 1 in 326
8. Fox - 1 in 328
9. Robert - 1 in 331
10. Gordon - 1 in 344
11. Murphy - 1 in 357
12. Ginola - 1 in 357
13. Rondon - 1 in 373
14. Ben Arfa - 1 in 374
15. Chopra - 1 in 374
16. Trippier - 1 in 384
17. Saint-Maximin - 1 in 388
18. Ferdinand - 1 in 390
19. Barnes - 1 in 392
20. Barton - 1 in 410
21. Miley - 1 in 417
22. N’Zogbia - 1 in 421
23. Obertan - 1 in 422
24. Beardsley - 1 in 429
25. Geremi - 1 in 441

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Kaizero

[gdm]

1 hour ago, Elric said:

Any hint of an inflated fee where we're concerned = immediate investigation over fair market value

 

Other clubs = partridgeshrug.gif

 

... is basically what it is. 

 

 

That’s the nature of being owned by the Saudis. If Man Utd were owned by them instead of us we’d be damn right up in arms if they were selling say Eriksen for above fair market value to them. The whole thing is bollocks 

[SEMTEX]

4 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

Top 25, for anyone curious:

1. Asprilla - 1 in 186
2. Carroll - 1 in 243
3. Viana - 1 in 270
4. Marveux - 1 in 276
5. Sellars - 1 in 305
6. Solano - 1 in 326
7. Cole - 1 in 326
8. Fox - 1 in 328
9. Robert - 1 in 331
10. Gordon - 1 in 344
11. Murphy - 1 in 357
12. Ginola - 1 in 357
13. Rondon - 1 in 373
14. Ben Arfa - 1 in 374
15. Chopra - 1 in 374
16. Trippier - 1 in 384
17. Saint-Maximin - 1 in 388
18. Ferdinand - 1 in 390
19. Barnes - 1 in 392
20. Barton - 1 in 410
21. Miley - 1 in 417
22. N’Zogbia - 1 in 421
23. Obertan - 1 in 422
24. Beardsley - 1 in 429
25. Geremi - 1 in 441

 

 

 

 

What's the source for this? Feels like Beardsley is dead low.

I guess there are a reasonable amount of players high up that just didn't play that many games for us. Need a list where they've played at least... 50 games. Or made at least 20 assists or something. 

[Kaizero]

5 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

 

What's the source for this? Feels like Beardsley is dead low.

I guess there are a reasonable amount of players high up that just didn't play that many games for us. Need a list where they've played at least... 50 games. Or made at least 20 assists or something. 

 

Transfermarkt career history, referencing only the PL section of the NUFC period of their career. Lists Apps, Assists and Minutes Played (and more). Spent far too long making a complete list to respond to a bsky post a few days ago, ended up getting three likes 

 

[Kaizero]

8 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

 

What's the source for this? Feels like Beardsley is dead low.

I guess there are a reasonable amount of players high up that just didn't play that many games for us. Need a list where they've played at least... 50 games. Or made at least 20 assists or something. 

 

 

Give me a few minutes

[SEMTEX]

just make AI do it man

[Kaizero]

19 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

 

What's the source for this? Feels like Beardsley is dead low.

I guess there are a reasonable amount of players high up that just didn't play that many games for us. Need a list where they've played at least... 50 games. Or made at least 20 assists or something. 

 

At least 50 games + 20 assists:

 

Player ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Apps‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Assists‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Minutes‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Assist per Minute

1. Robert‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 129‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 34‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 9595‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 282
2. Solano‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 230‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 54‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 17636‎‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 327
3. Murphy‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 170‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 23‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 8229‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 358
4. Guimarães‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 109‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 20‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 9047‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 425
5. Beardsley‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 129‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 26‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 11153‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 429
6. Dyer‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 190‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 32‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 14928‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 466
7. Ameobi‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 295‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 31‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 14820‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 478
8. Lee‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 267‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 34‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 22483‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 661
9. Shearer‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 303‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 40‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 26303‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 658

 

[Kaizero]

9 minutes ago, SEMTEX said:

just make AI do it man

 

Already have a list compiled. I used ChatGPT to help put it together, admittedly.

[SEMTEX]

At the risk of making light of your work… it probably needs to be a bit bigger now  

 

minimum 40 games 15 assists? 
 

I’ll share it with my football whatsapp group and cite you/chatgpt, if that would help you decide whether to redo it. 

[Kaizero]

16 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

At least 50 games + 20 assists:

 

Player ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Apps‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Assists‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Minutes‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ -‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ Assist per Minute

1. Robert‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 129‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 34‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 9595‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 282
2. Solano‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 230‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 54‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 17636‎‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 327
3. Murphy‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 170‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 23‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 8229‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 358
4. Guimarães‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 109‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 20‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 9047‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 425
5. Beardsley‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 129‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 26‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 11153‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 429
6. Dyer‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 190‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 32‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 14928‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 466
7. Ameobi‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 295‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 31‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 14820‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 478
8. Lee‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 267‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 34‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 22483‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 661
9. Shearer‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 303‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 40‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ |‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 26303‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ =‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 1 in 658

 

 

I enjoy trivia like the fact Ameobi and Shearer have almost the same amount of PL appearances for us, yet Ameobi has almost half the total amounts of minutes on the pitch  

[duo]

I hope Mathys Tel doesn't end up at Spurs be a waste

[Kaizero]

1 hour ago, SEMTEX said:

At the risk of making light of your work… it probably needs to be a bit bigger now  

 

minimum 40 games 15 assists? 
 

I’ll share it with my football whatsapp group and cite you/chatgpt, if that would help you decide whether to redo it. 

 

Assist per Minute with at least 40 Apps and 15 assists:

1. Asprilla – 1 in 186
2. Robert – 1 in 282
3. Solano – 1 in 327
4. Fox – 1 in 328
5. Cole – 1 in 326
6. Gordon – 1 in 344
7. Murphy – 1 in 358
8. Trippier – 1 in 384
9. Saint-Maximin – 1 in 388
10. Ferdinand – 1 in 390
11. N’Zogbia – 1 in 421
12. Guimarães – 1 in 425
13. Beardsley – 1 in 429
14. Bellamy – 1 in 456
15. Dyer – 1 in 466
16. Ameobi – 1 in 478
17. Ritchie – 1 in 550
18. Gillespie – 1 in 557
19. Sissoko – 1 in 609
20. Shearer – 1 in 658
21. Lee – 1 in 661
22. Gutierrez – 1 in 805
23. Speed – 1 in 1312
     

Assist per Minute with at least 40 Apps and 10 assists:

1. Asprilla - 1 in 186
2. Carroll - 1 in 243
3. Robert - 1 in 282
4. Sellars - 1 in 305
5. Cole - 1 in 326
6. Solano - 1 in 327
7. Fox - 1 in 328
8. Gordon - 1 in 344
9. Ginola - 1 in 357
10. Murphy - 1 in 358
11. Ben Arfa - 1 in 374
12. Trippier - 1 in 384
13. Saint-Maximin - 1 in 388
14. Ferdinand - 1 in 390
15. Barton - 1 in 410
16. N’Zogbia - 1 in 421
17. Guimarães - 1 in 425
18. Beardsley - 1 in 429
19. Bellamy - 1 in 456
20. Dyer - 1 in 466
21. Ameobi - 1 in 478
22. Ritchie - 1 in 550
23. Gillespie - 1 in 557
24. Wilson - 1 in 582
25. Cabaye - 1 in 587
26. Janmaat - 1 in 601
27. Sissoko - 1 in 609
28. Milner - 1 in 648
29. Shearer - 1 in 658
30. Lee - 1 in 661
31. Gutierrez - 1 in 805
32. Shelvey - 1 in 849
33. Beresford - 1 in 994
34. Warren Barton - 1 in 1153
35. Speed - 1 in 1312
     

Main takeaway really seems to be that across the 29 PL seasons (of 32) we have participated in, we only have 35 players with at least 10 assists total  

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Kaizero