BlazeT44 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 2 hours ago, gazza ladra said: How thick must Paqueta be to do something like this. Members of his family placed the bets. Really? Doesn’t the league mandate some sort of training in preseason to ward off this sort of thing? Like flight attendants on a plane? Surely, the clubs must take steps to explain —in the simplest terms possible— that a player is risking his carrier doing something like this. Thick as shit. Prior to the Manchester City rumour, he was still getting paid 100K a week (I'd assume), with a career on an upward trajectory (i.e. young enough for a top move and not declining). You'd assume that his money would go much further in Brazil too, rather than the UK. If you can't take care of family earning that kind of money, I don't know who can. Pure and simple, it's greed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 £80m lost. Wham must be furious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dokko said: £80m lost. Wham must be furious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Still miffed we didn't get more for ASM based on all other Saudi transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Record sale for Porto now too. Definitely could have got more for ASM surely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 We got totally fucked by related party Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, joeyt said: Record sale for Porto now too. Definitely could have got more for ASM surely It would have looked dodgy as fuck though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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enthusiast Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Ziyech deal apparently a "free loan" with option for a "free transfer". The guy was never going to be a absolute top tier player, but did look brilliant at Ajax. And now after the Chelsea treatment it's "give him a shot and if you like you can have him for nowt.". What an embarrassment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Villa looking at Nuno Tavares from Arsenal for their left back spot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 14 hours ago, enthusiast said: Ziyech deal apparently a "free loan" with option for a "free transfer". The guy was never going to be a absolute top tier player, but did look brilliant at Ajax. And now after the Chelsea treatment it's "give him a shot and if you like you can have him for nowt.". What an embarrassment. As someone that saw a lot of Ziyech, he's a very good player, but I think he's like a few of that Ajax team in the sense he was made to look great by the system. . There was a few in that group on the younger side that secured moves but didn't manage to kick on (Donny van De Beek, David Neres, Nicolas Tagliafico). Onana and Matthijs de Ligt are two that may escape that accusation, but de Ligt certainly wasn't great for Juventus. My belief is strengthened by how good Dusan Tadic and Lasse Schone looked that season, and it's why I'm surprised that Erik ten Hag has Man Utd looking so average even with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Viana said: As someone that saw a lot of Ziyech, he's a very good player, but I think he's like a few of that Ajax team in the sense he was made to look great by the system. . There was a few in that group on the younger side that secured moves but didn't manage to kick on (Donny van De Beek, David Neres, Nicolas Tagliafico). Onana and Matthijs de Ligt are two that may escape that accusation, but de Ligt certainly wasn't great for Juventus. My belief is strengthened by how good Dusan Tadic and Lasse Schone looked that season, and it's why I'm surprised that Erik ten Hag has Man Utd looking so average even with the ball. Ten Hag has far too many average overpaid players he needs a clean slate, saying that his transfers have been poor as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 19/08/2023 at 08:56, Matt1892 said: How convenient that this is the best possible outcome for West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sima said: How convenient that this is the best possible outcome for West Ham. Even funnier it was their shirt sponsors that caught him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Hadn't we been linked and I'm sure @brummie spoke highly of him. Edited August 20, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 FFP is causing some crazy shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Ben said: Ten Hag has far too many average overpaid players he needs a clean slate, saying that his transfers have been poor as well. Malacia - signed as backup full back. Played well majority of the games he's played. Success. Casemiro - remains to be seen if his legs are going this year, but he was most certainly a success based on last year. Martinez - huge success. Eriksen - huge success. Mount, Onana, Hojlund - combined total of 331 minutes so far. Far too early to judge any of these players. Antony - dog water Would say it's harsh to call his transfers poor. 80% hit rate unless you're writing off players after two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, madras said: Hadn't we been linked and I'm sure @brummie spoke highly of him. I am amazed we are thinking of flogging him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Froggy said: Malacia - signed as backup full back. Played well majority of the games he's played. Success. Casemiro - remains to be seen if his legs are going this year, but he was most certainly a success based on last year. Martinez - huge success. Eriksen - huge success. Mount, Onana, Hojlund - combined total of 331 minutes so far. Far too early to judge any of these players. Antony - dog water Would say it's harsh to call his transfers poor. 80% hit rate unless you're writing off players after two games. Bit of a stretch to say Martinez and Eriksen are huge successes, Man City are spending similar amounts and I would consider their signings huge successes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, Ben said: Bit of a stretch to say Martinez and Eriksen are huge successes, Man City are spending similar amounts and I would consider their signings huge successes Eriksen was free and Martinez was brilliant last year. I'm not saying we've had better windows that anybody else, but Ten Hag's signings haven't been poor at all. Antony aside of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 06:34, r0cafella said: Would love to get @rgk_lfcvery insightful thoughts on all of this. Sorry. Been very busy the past month. New job and recently became a dad . Football is a bit low on my list of priorities for the next few months. I honestly have nothing insightful to add other than bewilderment. I have no clue why we went all in for Caicedo. I have posted here that one needs to be careful about spending huge sums of money on players from clubs that play in well-defined systems, such as Brighton, Dortmund, RB, etc. There will always be exceptions, such as Haaland, Lewa, and Gundogan, but for the most part, they won't live up to the price tag. Caicedo is a great player, but not sure about breaking the British transfer record for him. The part I don't like is our consistent attempts at trying to sign players who are obviously going to other clubs - Tchouameni, Bellingham, Caicedo, and now Lavia also. I am very happy about the Mac Allister and Szoboszlai purchases. We still need a number 6. Endo can be a stopgap. We also have a collection of youngsters - Harvey Elliott, Bajcetic, Curtis Jones - who all have shown that they belong to the premier league but are still unsure if we rely on them over the season for a top 4 finish. Definitely expecting a season in transition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Froggy said: Martinez was brilliant last year. Until that game against Liverpool. I also think he was lucky not to get booked as often as he should have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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