Manxst Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 09:46, brummie said: By 35m euros, not a huge amount. That's going down to the championship plus coming within literally hours of administration for you. Coming back from that is expensive. It was also over 4 years ago, so irrelevant to current FFP situation. Expand Know it’s 4 years ago, and you’ve a good club with respect of selling players to cover costs, but the sale of your stadium meant you didn’t fail ffp and suffer disciplinary consequences (whatever those would be ?)- point being that you rode your luck a little and your ffp success isn’t all down to good judgement and planning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon88 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 It’s also not the end of the window. Villa, once they’ve done their incoming business, will shift their deadwood for substantial fees, instead of paying them off. They have an advantage over us, in that they will probably shift Traore, Archer, Sansom, Nakamba, Davis, and possibly Dendoncker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordJake Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 09:53, AyeDubbleYoo said: I don't want to sell our ground pls thanks. Expand We own the stadium not the ground. Leased off the council on a peppercorn rent of £1 on a 99 year rolling lease Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 09:57, Toon88 said: It’s also not the end of the window. Villa, once they’ve done their incoming business, will shift their deadwood for substantial fees, instead of paying them off. They have an advantage over us, in that they will probably shift Traore, Archer, Sansom, Nakamba, Davis, and possibly Dendoncker. Expand I think they’ve got around 100m room still (maybe more with sales) this year, but after this year they’ll either have keep selling and increase income another way in order to keep going at the rate they are. It’s clear the Grealish sale assisted massively and without it they wouldn’t be spending anywhere like they have done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 09:57, Toon88 said: It’s also not the end of the window. Villa, once they’ve done their incoming business, will shift their deadwood for substantial fees, instead of paying them off. They have an advantage over us, in that they will probably shift Traore, Archer, Sansom, Nakamba, Davis, and possibly Dendoncker. Expand We also have an FFP-proof option of selling some of our homegrown. Jacob Ramsey, Cameron Archer for example. Aaron Ramsey, Tim Iroegbunam, even players who have just been on loan in the championship fetch good money these days. It isn't a coincidence that when the new owners poured money in, they addressed a large chunk of it towards the youth and academy (we're building an inner city academy just next to Witton Station, spitting distance to the ground at the moment). TBF to Man City and Chelsea - and I don't like doing that - their owners also realised this, and trading homegrown players makes a huge difference to the FFP position of those clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) On 14/07/2023 at 09:59, Manxst said: I think they’ve got around 100m room still (maybe more with sales) this year, but after this year they’ll either have keep selling and increase income another way in order to keep going at the rate they are. It’s clear the Grealish sale assisted massively and without it they wouldn’t be spending anywhere like they have done. Expand How do you think yours is going to be impacted, then, given you've spent almost 3 times as much in the last three years? Incidentally, you say "Without the Grealish sale" as if selling a home grown player for a ton of money is an exceptional event. Selling one for 100m is, yes, but that side of transfers is going to become more and more important. Selling 120m of homegrown players makes a difference because you can book the entire value in one window, whereas otherwise, spending is spread out across the length of the contract (see Chelsea and their insane 8 year contracts). Football is basically as much like Ultimate Team as the actual main game these days. Edited July 14, 2023 by brummie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 09:20, brummie said: I genuinely never thought a bad thing about Wolves, and they are in no way whatsoever considered a 'derby' by our fans, never have been, even though the grounds are 12-13 miles apart (there are a lot of clubs around these parts). Then when they got promoted their fans were constantly on about us, having finished above us for the first time in about 50 years with all this "mind the gap" shit, really bizarre. Obsessed with us (like Coventry, similar vibe). So now, they can go and fuck themselves. I remember when they used to play in front of less than 4k in the third division, the uppity wankers. Expand You've basically described West Mids mackems tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Imagine how different the league would be right now if teams like us and Villa (even Everton to an extent) weren’t restricted in the spending that available Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 10:06, Dr.Spaceman said: You've basically described West Mids mackems tbh Expand That's basically it. I'd also add that Coventry are like a West Midlands Boro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 10:10, brummie said: That's basically it. I'd also add that Coventry are like a West Midlands Boro. Expand Got a bit of time for them though, Jimmy Hill winding the mackems up and all that. Plus they spawned Callum Wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 09:54, GeordieDazzler said: People said that when Oscar went to China. I don’t think it says much apart from the fact that money talks. Expand It was similar, China could have been s major player if the Government hadn't pulled the plug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Diaby was one i really wanted for us, surprised we are not in for him yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Crying about other clubs' spending is getting really tiresome by the middle of July, many don't seem to have any idea how FFP even works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Linked with us quite a bit last summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Wolves can get to absolute fuck, like. Dodgy fucking bastards and a rank model of doing business with that parasite Mendes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Kyle Walker off to Bayern it seems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 09:23, kocunar said: I don't think they would accept it even if UEFA offered it. Expand They'd bite UEFA's hand off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Villas youth set up really is impressive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deuce Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 12:21, SUPERTOON said: Expand I think about that goal v. Argentina every time I hear his name. The perfect strike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I thought Pavard had dropped off really badly in the past couple of seasons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Another masterpiece from Ryder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Ahahaha Wtf man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 The fact that he shook hands with Kenny Dalglish in Anfield on the day he signed the contract says it all. If he’d shook Shearer’s hand at St James’, that would have also said it all. Lee knows where the scoops are and he sure knows how to break them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Nah fair play to Ryder. He's done his research and at the time of writing that, was unable to find subscription to the paper copy of the Chroncile under the name of Szoboszlai. Another sign that he had no interest in joining the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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