TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Amir_9 said: Don't know if been posted yet but this is from their forums. Pretty alarming if true: Just looking back objectively now at his time here, based on facts of what’s happened: - came in, insisted he’d done a full squad audit and knew what Everton fans wanted, talked a lot about running and effort - definitely improved the fitness of the side - brought in Gray which is an excellent signing for that price. Townsend on a free is very meh and he’s a Benitez player - he’ll be useful for whoever else comes in because he’s always committed. Begovic is what he is, Lonergan for training needs - did well first few games in terms of results, team looked fitter but wasn’t really organised bar the Brighton game. There seemed no real plan to how we played but the intensity was there at least - poor deadline day, demanded we got Rondon and we got Rondon - injuries hit, results start to tail off, matching the poor level of performance - James Rodriguez left the club even though Everton couldn’t replace him - Bit of a bounce around that United game, the last good display. I credit Benitez that day, looked like he had got something to build on even with limited options (DCL and Rich out), but Utd were awful - Went very, very rubbish very quickly. He tried to replace Doucoure with Tom Davies. His insistence on only ever playing 2 in midfield became apparent. By the wolves game, it was clear he was stuck in a time football forgot - worst derby home defeat in 40 years, fans protest, but try to be too clever and insist that it’s not the manager’s fault. This results in DoF going and the manager gets more power - half-decent performance v Arsenal, but relied on moment of magic and could easily have lost. Overshadows it by ditching Digne - hapless v Palace, he changes it up after 20 mins and thinks Gomes can play second striker in his absurd 4411 - resilient display v Chelsea but very lucky to not have been 3-0 down by 20 mins in. Decides same formation must be used in every games - completely loses his head over Digne, alienates one of the best players then inexplicably puts him on the bench v Brighton, even though he was never gonna bring him on. Seemingly gets annoyed by fans clapping Digne when he warms up, when Everton are 2-0 down at home after 15 mins - Sells said player having already spent more than what we got for him on two very inexperienced players, one of whom is thrown straight into a struggling side - leaves by suffering a defeat which leads Everton to become the only side to lose to all the newly promoted teams - gets fat compo packaged club’s now a complete mess. No DoF, owner’s a lunatic, Bill’s crying and the fans hate each other and the players Can't argue with any of that. He'd be a good manager for a mid-table northern club, or say Sheffield Utd, a club with history which would appreciate restoration on a budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Can't wait to see who they get in as replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, DMLeazesender said: Can't wait to see who they get in as replacement. Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 PLEEEAAASE!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Stuck a poll in for fun. Hopefully covers all bases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Bring him home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 His ship has sailed. He should never have taken the Everton job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-Cheshire-Toon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On another note - do you think they'll get a replacement in - in time for them to make any purchases, as if not, then they'll have to stick with the squad they have, which could benefit us in the long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, DMLeazesender said: Can't wait to see who they get in as replacement. If it's Rooney who is favourite, then I think Farhad has had enough of throwing money around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Could they bring him in as a consultant to oversee the new training ground/base of operations at the club? Keep him close, then if things with Howe don't work out we can bring him straight back in. ... though that sad, would any involvement undermine any potential success for Howe? Edited January 16, 2022 by Armchair Pundit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Moshiri is just a rich Persian Steve Gibson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Not gonna go on about it but I'd have him in tomorrow. Better chance of keeping us up than Howe and better chance of getting us promoted if we go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I’d have him upstairs in a heartbeat (not sexually) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTL Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, RS said: I’d have him upstairs in a heartbeat (not sexually) ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: Not gonna go on about it but I'd have him in tomorrow. Better chance of keeping us up than Howe and better chance of getting us promoted if we go down. Honestly, not sure he would. It would just confuse our players even more, the last thing we need is another change of styles, I think this lot are beyond defence at all costs, they can't even do that any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Aye of course, but we need a DoF, not a former and much loved manager in an unfamiliar role to undermine the existing manager... Wouldn't have to be a DoF though, would just have to work with Howe until we get one in. Whether Rafa could take on a DoF role here or somewhere else I have no idea. Just theorising here like, it's basically fantasy, but the idea would be that he helps the board with footballing decisions in any way he can and works with Howe in identifying players as we're in desperate need. He wouldn't be coming into training and telling Howe how to set us up. Again, just fantasy, but I don't think it would be some outrageous decision or out if it ended up happening. Edited January 16, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I'd have him back here in a heartbeat, would be such an upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: Wouldn't have to be a DoF though, would just have to work with Howe until we get one in. Whether Rafa could take on a DoF role here or somewhere else I have no idea. Just theorising here like, it's basically fantasy, but the idea would be that he helps the board with footballing decisions in any way he can and works with Howe in identifying players as we're in desperate need. He wouldn't be coming into training and telling Howe how to set us up. Again, just fantasy, but I don't think it would be some outrageous decision or out if it ended up happening. Agree to disagree on that one. I'd have him back, but only to watch him in the dugout putting them specs in his pocket again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Can't believe people are writing him off - he was just the right man at the wrong club. It happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 We have Howe now. I back Howe until he’s gone. Benitez has had his chances (for now). Mind, I did want him back for a long time. But I have moved on and want to see Howe succeed now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Again, this is embarrassing. Loved Rafa wanted him for the job initially but we get behind Howe and PIF, even if that means we go down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Imagine him coming in and upsetting the Trippier and Howe love-in. Or ASM who nearly won us the match, but only after committing our biggest lapse of the first half, losing it on the halfway line. I think the team is going in the right direction, but there is just so much ground to make up. After two months of Howe, I don't think our problem is lack of organization or effort. It is poor, error-prone footballers and an ingrained losing mentality, a lingering smell from when defeats had positives and being in the bottom three was "ticking over". If Rafa suffered from a lack of fit strikers at Everton, well guess what he'd walk into here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Wonder if they've got someone already lined up? He's been under a ridiculous amount of pressure for months now, if they've been sensible then they'll have been asking a few questions for weeks now, his sacking has been inevitable. Then again if they were sensible they would never have appointed him given the negative fan reaction before the ink was dry on his contract. Just a shit decision all round from all concerned, he needs to take stock and look for a new club that's a better fit for him in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Stottie said: Imagine him coming in and upsetting the Trippier and Howe love-in. Or ASM who nearly won us the match, but only after committing our biggest lapse of the first half, losing it on the halfway line. I think the team is going in the right direction, but there is just so much ground to make up. After two months of Howe, I don't think our problem is lack of organization or effort. It is poor, error-prone footballers and an ingrained losing mentality, a lingering smell from when defeats had positives and being in the bottom three was "ticking over". If Rafa suffered from a lack of fit strikers at Everton, well guess what he'd walk into here. What direction is that? We've been awful all season and show no signs of turning the tide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said: Again, this is embarrassing. Loved Rafa wanted him for the job initially but we get behind Howe and PIF, even if that means we go down Agree 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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