Danh1 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Wonder how Rafa truly feels about being at Everton, especially now our takeover has happened. They have got Liverpool next Wednesday and I think it could be the day the Scouse Mackems crowd turn on him if they get stuffed and the Liverpool fans are chanting his name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Not sure how he feels but they have been fucking wank the last few times ave seen them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 He was on a hiding to nothing when he took the job and it was a strange move. Much like his China move. Everton’s recent performances have been absolutely minging. But we know he tends to finish stronger, so will be interesting to see how he does over the course of the season, if he gets that far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Danh1 said: Wonder how Rafa truly feels about being at Everton, especially now our takeover has happened. They have got Liverpool next Wednesday and I think it could be the day the Scouse Mackems crowd turn on him if they get stuffed and the Liverpool fans are chanting his name. It think he's safe no matter. The owners will be seeing how he operates and that'll be enough to convinve them to ignore the noise. Edited November 21, 2021 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 They have a lot of injuries tbf but they have looked vile when I've seen them. Fixtures coming up look shit too, can see it turning soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I think they'll pick up in the new year. Rafa is fighting an uphill battle though regardless of how well he does there. Some of their fans have said themselves he could get them top 4 and they wouldn't accept him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Watching MOTD saw it mentioned that Ivan Toney was actually at Newcastle for 3 years and only got 4 sub appearances. Must admit, along with Mbabu I just don't understand what Rafa didn't like. Can only assume it was the lifestyle,when you look at some of the players we kept on, were they so much better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, TRon said: Watching MOTD saw it mentioned that Ivan Toney was actually at Newcastle for 3 years and only got 4 sub appearances. Must admit, along with Mbabu I just don't understand what Rafa didn't like. Can only assume it was the lifestyle,when you look at some of the players we kept on, were they so much better? I assume it was their lifestyle or not buying into what he wanted to achieve. Same reason he canned Mitro because he wouldn’t align with the fitness plan Rafa wanted. Rafa wants model professionals like Rondon, who complies with exactly what he wants both on and off the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Wasn’t it more that Rafa didn’t want to put a kid in the firing line while getting relegated, and then wanting experienced players to bring us up? Armstrong falls into the same category. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 No doubt about it; having Toney, Armstrong and Mbabu in the squad this year and last would improve us no doubt, but you can't think they'd be the same players they are now even if they were afforded a chance. They've all left the club, and made something out of their careers and pushed on. Especially forwards like Toney and Armstrong progressed and developed by being their sides main men from the off. Neither were at the level to be starting ahead of Gayle, Mitro, Perez or Murphy in Championship, let alone starting in PL. Rafa had to make do with Joselu, but even he was more fitting in Rafa's eyes to be trusted with minutes. Coming off the bench, and being fed to the wolves would have never made Toney or Armstrong the players they are now. Turning it up a notch, Chelsea can have the same gripe about KDB, Salah, Lukaku and even Cuardrado leaving the club; but all needed to leave, play games to progress their careers and develop into the players they became. Remember Mourinho talking about KDB coming to him saying he wants to play, and forced himself a move to Wolfsburg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: I assume it was their lifestyle or not buying into what he wanted to achieve. Same reason he canned Mitro because he wouldn’t align with the fitness plan Rafa wanted. Rafa wants model professionals like Rondon, who complies with exactly what he wants both on and off the pitch. Yeah, nor sure how that applies in the modern era. Mourinho also binned off a lot of young talent at Chelsea and where is he now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Danh1 said: Wonder how Rafa truly feels about being at Everton, especially now our takeover has happened. They have got Liverpool next Wednesday and I think it could be the day the Scouse Mackems crowd turn on him if they get stuffed and the Liverpool fans are chanting his name. As someone that hates Everton marginally more than Liverpool, that would be superb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Dread to think what Everton forums are like currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Robster said: Dread to think what Everton forums are like currently. To be fair, there aren’t many managers who could only take one win from 10 games and survive significant criticism. Especially the manner of some of those defeats. Losing 5-2 at home to Watford. If he doesn’t turn this game around he’s going to need a miracle with the run they’ve got coming up. Edited November 28, 2021 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I do wonder what's next for him if he leaves Everton. Going after the money again in some nothing league or a midtable club in Spain perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Given the money Everton have spent in recent years, their squad is absolutely fucking awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, toon25 said: Given the money Everton have spent in recent years, their squad is absolutely fucking awful. They poached that chap from Leicester didn’t they? The one credited with scouting Mahrez and Kante. Walsh I think his name is. Obviously hasn’t worked out quite as well there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Rafa appears to have lost his touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, toon25 said: Given the money Everton have spent in recent years, their squad is absolutely fucking awful. They're playing Brentford though, not Man City. The football is pretty dreadful which doesn't help. I hope for Rafa's sake the owners show some patience, but from the outside it doesn't look like the players have bought in to his methods at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Everton's squad is rancid outside of DCL and Richarlison. Not surprised they're settling into lower midtable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Could be the end if they get turned over home to Liverpool in midweek. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Mid-table without DCL and could they be dragged into a relegation fight? It’s not looking good for Rafa it has to be said, if they stick with him and back him in the transfer market, however, I think long-term he will bring a better degree of success for them than under previous managers. I fancy them to get a draw against Liverpool mind, still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Liverpool,Arsenal, Chelsea and Leicester in their next 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: They poached that chap from Leicester didn’t they? The one credited with scouting Mahrez and Kante. Walsh I think his name is. Obviously hasn’t worked out quite as well there. Aye it’s Steve Walsh. An inadvertent Newcastle United legend. Edited November 28, 2021 by WarrenBartonCentrePartin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 51 minutes ago, The Butcher said: I do wonder what's next for him if he leaves Everton. Going after the money again in some nothing league or a midtable club in Spain perhaps? He's got to succeed here IMO otherwise he's not getting a big job again in the Premier. That type of football is not really successful any more, it's more suited to lower half teams who give the better teams the odd bloody nose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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