Fantail Breeze Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, HTT II said: Mid-table without DCL and could they be dragged into a relegation fight? It’s not looking good for Rafa it has to be said, if they stick with him and back him in the transfer market, however, I think long-term he will bring a better degree of success for them than under previous managers. I fancy them to get a draw against Liverpool mind, still. They can’t back him in the transfer window, he has nowt to spend. Other than a free transfer or loan, he won’t be getting anyone in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Not looking good. Was always doomed to end in tears but I thought he'd be doing better than this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 He's definitely going to be sacked soon with current form and upcoming fixtures. You should have just came back here Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I don't really get the narrative that Everton has a poor squad. I'd be over the moon if we had Rondon & Tosun as cover for DCL and Richarlison, or Gomes, Delph and Sigurdsson as cover for Allan and Doucoure, or Holgate and Godfrey as cover for Keane and Mina. The only position they are lacking adequate cover behind a strong startin 11 is on the wings imo. Benitez is definitely under performing despite injury problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 At least their fans will be pleased anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 No point denying it ,he’s got them playing shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 He’s been pretty shite everywhere recently apart from us. His choice of job has been his biggest downfall. It was never going to work at Everton or Real, although I don’t begrudge someone taking the Real job. The China move was ridiculous too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 They'll be calling for his head soon Everton fans. They'll be the told ya so's, then ones that never wanted him in the first place. Everton fans think they're way above what they should be. Interesting to watch what happens here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: They can’t back him in the transfer window, he has nowt to spend. Other than a free transfer or loan, he won’t be getting anyone in January. He said in some interview it was nice to have backing of Chairman in transfers; alluding he had none from MA. Ironic that despite backing from new Chairman, its only moral and not financial backing. Surely he must have known about Everton's FFP before taking up the role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Decky said: He's definitely going to be sacked soon with current form and upcoming fixtures. You should have just came back here Rafa. I'm glad he didn't tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, TRon said: I'm glad he didn't tbh. No guarantee Howe is going to work out but with Rafa we know that he can get the best out of this group of players. He was the perfect fit for us trying to stay up this season imo. Eventually he could have maybe moved upstairs and overseen the rebuilding of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Tosun is pure wank, as is Keane. Tosun is also 4th choice striker. You won't find many better 4th choice strikers in the PL. Guess we'll just have to disagree on Keane. First choice for Everton under Ancelotti & Benitez indicates there's something to him. Reckon he'd be able to get into most teams bar the top 3-4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Conjo said: Tosun is also 4th choice striker. You won't find many better 4th choice strikers in the PL. Guess we'll just have to disagree on Keane. First choice for Everton under Ancelotti & Benitez indicates there's something to him. Reckon he'd be able to get into most teams bar the top 3-4. By comparison - we don’t even have a fourth striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 We knew he was finished as a top tier manager but I didn't realise it was over for him at 2nd tier as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, Conjo said: I don't really get the narrative that Everton has a poor squad. I'd be over the moon if we had Rondon & Tosun as cover for DCL and Richarlison, or Gomes, Delph and Sigurdsson as cover for Allan and Doucoure, or Holgate and Godfrey as cover for Keane and Mina. The only position they are lacking adequate cover behind a strong startin 11 is on the wings imo. Benitez is definitely under performing despite injury problems. You do know Gylfi can't play for them? Gomes has been shite since injury too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) Reading the Everton forum and it’s really quite poisonous. Not just about Rafa but the players and club in general. Reads a lot like here during our relegation seasons actually. Is there a chance of them going down or even just getting dragged into it? Not a pot to piss in, DCL out for a long period and players not performing at all. Edited November 28, 2021 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Decky said: No guarantee Howe is going to work out but with Rafa we know that he can get the best out of this group of players. He was the perfect fit for us trying to stay up this season imo. Eventually he could have maybe moved upstairs and overseen the rebuilding of the club. Yep he would have seen us safe more than likely, but I still think Howe will do that. I don't think appointing a manager to survive is what we're about any more, and it's also not what Rafa's about either. If he was coming here it would be to win stuff, and I'm not sure his style of football is the way to do it any more. FA cup maybe with a strong squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I suppose it was a bit ambitious thinking he could walk into a club where he's hated and that has a squad full of expensive mercenaries and turn it around, with no transfer budget. He probably thought because he did well at Chelsea he could do it again, but they had a squad of good pros. Sad situation really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Maybe we are all just shit judges on here ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Kimbo said: I suppose it was a bit ambitious thinking he could walk into a club where he's hated and that has a squad full of expensive mercenaries and turn it around, with no transfer budget. He probably thought because he did well at Chelsea he could do it again, but they had a squad of good pros. Sad situation really. Egotistical more than ambitious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 40 minutes ago, Dokko said: We knew he was finished as a top tier manager but I didn't realise it was over for him at 2nd tier as well. We were the 7th best side in the league in his last half season in charge with mostly the same shit who have us bottom now. There’s nothing remotely suggesting he’s done at top level through any reasonable / unbiased perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) Rafa is now the type of manager who needs to be at the right club to be effective, as he was here. A bit like Moyes at Everton and now WHU or Big Sam at Bolton for example. If Everton stick with him and allow him to rebuild he will, again, do well for them. He’s too good to fail, but he’s on a hiding to nothing there and it’s looking likely to end in tears. Some of his managerial choices have been so iffy though, although it worked out here for him, it was a crazy move going from Real Madrid to a relegation threatened NUFC and then staying with us for as long as he did. Then the whole China thing and now Everton… he could probably do with some time out of the game to be honest. Edited November 28, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 https://fb.watch/9zsZScORsW/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: We were the 7th best side in the league in his last half season in charge with mostly the same shit who have us bottom now. There’s nothing remotely suggesting he’s done at top level through any reasonable / unbiased perspective. That was a long time ago and you've cherry picked a run of games to judge him on. You could probably do the same with Bruce. Not sure why you'd think Id be biased. I'd have took him here over Howe before he arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Think he'd based his season on DCL being in the team tbh. He's been out for ages now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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