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HaydnNUFC

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The point he makes is uninformed. Rafa has already managed some of the best clubs in world football. He's settled back in England and sees us as a project, especially with the potential a takeover looks likely to bring.

 

No idea why some in the media can't wrap their head around this. The fact he sees us as a project Rafa actually said himself ffs.

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Dokko

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Be nice if Pep acknowledges the fact he’s gone from cushy number to ivory tower to billionaires row while Rafa decides to slum it and want to create a real legacy.

 

No other top manager has the balls to do what he’s done by coming to us, he really deserves this takeover as much as we do.

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HaydnNUFC

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Be nice if Pep acknowledges the fact he’s gone from cushy number to ivory tower to billionaires row while Rafa decides to slum it and want to create a real legacy.

 

No other top manager has the balls to do what he’s done by coming to us, he really deserves this takeover as much as we do.

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sempuki

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Be nice if Pep acknowledges the fact he’s gone from cushy number to ivory tower to billionaires row while Rafa decides to slum it and want to create a real legacy.

 

No other top manager has the balls to do what he’s done by coming to us, he really deserves this takeover as much as we do.

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Good post.
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Be nice if Pep acknowledges the fact he’s gone from cushy number to ivory tower to billionaires row while Rafa decides to slum it and want to create a real legacy.

 

No other top manager has the balls to do what he’s done by coming to us, he really deserves this takeover as much as we do.

 

Yep. Hope we win something.

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Heron

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Would love for a few journos or representatives of the club start calling them out on it. Results are the best way to silence them though. Wor Flags et al need to keep getting behind Rafa. Everyone hates it and TBH a siege mentality would be beneficial to us.

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Decky

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That Matt Law guy is such a weirdo man. Btw I'm just reading the Richard Keys stuff from a few pages back. He is and always has been a complete arsehole who never left high school. I've no idea why the media still gives that creep the time of day.

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Be nice if Pep acknowledges the fact he’s gone from cushy number to ivory tower to billionaires row while Rafa decides to slum it and want to create a real legacy.

 

No other top manager has the balls to do what he’s done by coming to us, he really deserves this takeover as much as we do.

 

Great post!

 

I love Rafa!

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The thing with the likes of Pep is they want to win everything and to have the very best players and teams and you cannot blame them because they are the best. Why the fuck should he do what Rafa has done? Would you?

 

Pep with this NUFC team would be struggling just as much or if not more than we already are, although the football will no doubt be better. He's just as tough on discipline, detail and micro managing everything and everyone as Rafa, but he wants his players to be technically perfect at passing, movement, finishing, pressing and possession.

 

Average players would sink under such demands especially under the other demands of discipline, team shape, work rate, positional sense and player roles and rightly so. Rafa is more about defensive organisation, players not doing more than what their task or role is.

 

Rafa deserves huge credit for firstly coming to Newcastle, staying, taking us up and should he keep us up...

 

He is undoubtedly a world-class manager and a rare breed that can work at the very top or the very bottom. He is for me easily in the top 10 of best managers in the world and honestly, I'd only swap him for a Klopp or Pep, but only under the same conditions LFC and Man City operate at because if they had to work with Rafa's players, they'd bomb.

 

He is like Mourinho, a guaranteed trophy or success. Unlike Jose though Rafa's humble, likeable and respectful.

 

The media don't get it because they see Rafa 'struggling' with us and know he's one of the best and could do much better and while we are struggling, we are doing so with one of the best managing one of our worst teams and we know if he gets better players we can go places. Give Pardew say Man Ciy's team and they would struggle to finish in the top 6, fucking hell he almost took one of our best PL team's since Sir Bobby's down.

 

For me personally though, and I've touched on it many a time, I absolutely respect, admire and love anyone who has the kind of belief I have in my club, who shares my idea of what NUFC should be or could be and I try and hold dearly onto that.

 

KK believed in us, Sir Bobby did, Hughton even.

 

Pardew believed we couldn't compete with the likes of Swansea, that our youth players weren't intelligent enough because we are from the North, that we expect too much, that we are a tough crowd etc.

 

If you were there against Leicester for our 125th, at home to Spurs when we went down, at home against Barca or 5-0 against Man Utd or away to Barnsley when we took 8K or whatever, Shearer's testimonial, or Wembley twice, Cardiff or Milan... this is a magnificent club, a fucking beautiful club. How the fuck could you not believe in that? It dumbfounds me!

 

By the way, through my line of work, and I know I repeat this often, I get myself all over the place and almost to a person, its how the fuck is Rafa still your manager, you jammy bastards etc. Proper fans know.

 

Sadly in the boardroom, dugouts and especially in the media you have muppets who know fuck all about football, the game and most of all fans and that's because most of them have never had to travel 800 plus miles to watch your team in the Championship away to Plymouth, or go to the mighty Barcelona in the thousands knowing a defeat is a certainty or turn up when your club hasn't won a dime in donkeys regardless of division, place in the table, manager or owner.

 

I have the utmost respect for the fans of say Wigan who could easily go and support Man Utd. Even if they get half their 20k or whatever capacity crowd... why do they have a stadium too big anyway? Because modern football wants customers in there not fans and modern football clubs want that.

 

Shit product and customers will go elsewhere, only true fans stay around.

 

Same with the mackems btw, despite the fact I dislike the cunts. You have to respect their fans, the ones that stay around.

 

We fill our ground because everyone of us believes in our club, we know its not a Championship club or a PL relegation fighting club. Its Newcastle United, the greatest football club in the world. If it wasn't, we wouldn't fucking support it!

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One thing about Rafa is his approach to the job, its about building from the bottom up, its a long term approach and that takes away from him somewhat, but also makes him so lovable. Wenger is similar, but in a different way. Pep, Mourinho et al are in it for glory. Rafa would win far more if he was likewise. Had he loosened up, given the players more freedom and been less political at Madrid, he would have won them a title. He would have been replaced the next season due to a perceived dour brand of football like, but his CV would say Real Madrid - Honours!

 

Mourinho, Klopp et al are career managers, Rafa a club manager. For us we need that right now and badly so, again we are extremely lucky we have someone who could easily come here, take us up, leave in a blaze of glory and move onto another top club just adding to his glittering career and CV. Instead he's visiting local 5-a-side pitches, working with the foundation, coaching the youth team coaches, doing talk ins, creating plans for the academy, training centre, creating dossiers on 15-17 year olds all over the world who could one day make a good player for NUFC and a whole lot more.

 

I kind of what this takeover for him more than us.

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One thing about Rafa is his approach to the job, its about building from the bottom up, its a long term approach and that takes away from him somewhat, but also makes him so lovable. Wenger is similar, but in a different way. Pep, Mourinho et al are in it for glory. Rafa would win far more if he was likewise. Had he loosened up, given the players more freedom and been less political at Madrid, he would have won them a title. He would have been replaced the next season due to a perceived dour brand of football like, but his CV would say Real Madrid - Honours!

 

Mourinho, Klopp et al are career managers, Rafa a club manager. For us we need that right now and badly so, again we are extremely lucky we have someone who could easily come here, take us up, leave in a blaze of glory and move onto another top club just adding to his glittering career and CV. Instead he's visiting local 5-a-side pitches, working with the foundation, coaching the youth team coaches, doing talk ins, creating plans for the academy, training centre, creating dossiers on 15-17 year olds all over the world who could one day make a good player for NUFC and a whole lot more.

 

I kind of what this takeover for him more than us.

Klopp is basically the exact opposite of a "career manager" as you describe it there

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One thing about Rafa is his approach to the job, its about building from the bottom up, its a long term approach and that takes away from him somewhat, but also makes him so lovable. Wenger is similar, but in a different way. Pep, Mourinho et al are in it for glory. Rafa would win far more if he was likewise. Had he loosened up, given the players more freedom and been less political at Madrid, he would have won them a title. He would have been replaced the next season due to a perceived dour brand of football like, but his CV would say Real Madrid - Honours!

 

Mourinho, Klopp et al are career managers, Rafa a club manager. For us we need that right now and badly so, again we are extremely lucky we have someone who could easily come here, take us up, leave in a blaze of glory and move onto another top club just adding to his glittering career and CV. Instead he's visiting local 5-a-side pitches, working with the foundation, coaching the youth team coaches, doing talk ins, creating plans for the academy, training centre, creating dossiers on 15-17 year olds all over the world who could one day make a good player for NUFC and a whole lot more.

 

I kind of what this takeover for him more than us.

Klopp is basically the exact opposite of a "career manager" as you describe it there

 

I meant to say Pep and not Klopp, that's probably why he again won't win as much as say the rest because he's more about foundations, building something and a project. The reason why I would have Pep and klopp ahead of Rafa is their football philosophy. I don't like Rafa's style, its not shit or boring, its just not my kind of football.

 

Ironically, a few LFC fans I know would happily have Rafa back over Klopp, sacrificing style for trophies. That's the way football is though. At the other end of the spectrum that's why Big Sam keeps getting a job. Sack everything just to stay up.

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