NEEJ Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Wonder why they want a relegation clause you fat c***. It's a sport where 6 maybe 7 don't have to worry about this. Even a good manager with heavy investment doesn't guarantee survival. When was the last time a good manager went down with heavy investment like? The league has changed the last few years. Everton and West Ham were at big risk before they made a change. Palace have an expensive attack in comparison to the rest of the bottom half and had a manager who was being touted a lot on here when Pardew left, at the start of the season. None of them have gone down though. Bilic isn't a good manager and Everton would've most likely been fine. Palace fair enough in terms of investment, but de Boer was always a bit of a gamble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'll take Stavely's comments over Ashley's any day of the week. We've had ten years of Ashley's flim flam, hearings in parliament, court hearings and other reports from business sectors on how unprofessional he is. We have no idea how this will turn out with such a moronic gimp running the club for nothing more than advertising space for SD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 This article needs to be seen by everyone of the 52,000 fans that go to the games. They need to know that Ashley clearly doesn’t have the best interests of the club at heart. That has been clear since 2008 TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Despite the war of words and crap flying round the situation seems pretty straght forward. Ashley wants £350m (no clauses etc). He feels justified as he invested £236m and IHO the club is in a stable financial situation now. PCP value club at £250m. As ITO the club needs £100m investment on top to make up for lack of investment in training ground and squad. We all have our opinions on who is right. Neither side wants to move and PCP’s funding may or may not still be in place now (Reubens family quotes) "In a financially stable situation" -serious danger of relegation which would cripple the clubs finances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I was watching a documentary about Robert Maxwell and how he was almost certainly a psychopath. There is a misconception that a psychopath is someone violent or crazy etc but in actual fact a psychopath can exist in other forms and use those traits to work themselves right to the top of the business world. The criteria applied to Robert Maxwell could well be applied to the media portrayal of Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I thought we were "financially stable" but clearly the fact we're skint suggests otherwise. Looking at the accounts 2 years ago, to the splurge he threw at McClaren then obviously the financial hit involved with relegation, I don't think there's much there. That'll change again hopefully on survival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 As a purely business point of view if someone offered to buy my business but said they would not pay in full if things went tits a year or two later I would tell them to do one. Unless I had an equal say in how they operated for those two years. I wish she just offered 300m no clauses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. I'm not sure if that's wishful thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. I'm not sure if that's wishful thinking. If she's serious, she fights for this. If she fights with clear public offers then we will see whether the fat man really is serious about selling. A bit like making offers for players made public to unsettle them. At some point the player goes fuck that you've got a great bid let me go, Mike will have the supporters united in doing the same along with the media. After that and still no sale then it never will. Atm her bids aren't enough, I wish they were but it's not the price he's looking for. £300m no clauses I think is a fair offer and should be accepted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Agony. Wish this would fuck off, tbh, need to get some work done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. It’s done mate. He’s here till he’s dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. It’s done mate. He’s here till he’s dead. I thought that for the last few weeks and been shot down for it. Today I feel different. She's fighting, let's hope it's mot just to preserve reputation and she is serious. If she is serious she can win. May need our help though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 He's scum of the highest order, I'm glad Staveley has come out, defender herself and outed him as a cunt. Not sure how many of our fans would read the times though, this story or rewording of it needs to be shunted across to the Sun, the Star, SSN etc. Give it real coverage and hope the fans do something about it in the next home game. If cunts like Steve Wraith/Mike Martin really had the clubs best interests at heart they would help facilitate this. As it is, now is the time where we really need fans to band together over one common goal: Remove Mike Ashley from this club. How we do that and balance it between supporting Rafa and making SJP a cauldron of abuse at the fat man, I'm not sure though. It seems Rafa leaving would be the straw that broke the camel back for a lot, however we have too many narrow-minded fans amongst us that believe he is at fault and are incapable of seeing the bigger picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Despite the war of words and crap flying round the situation seems pretty straght forward. Ashley wants £350m (no clauses etc). He feels justified as he invested £236m and IHO the club is in a stable financial situation now. PCP value club at £250m. As ITO the club needs £100m investment on top to make up for lack of investment in training ground and squad. We all have our opinions on who is right. Neither side wants to move and PCP’s funding may or may not still be in place now (Reubens family quotes) That's like taking a car to We Buy Any Car, being told it’s worth £2,000 then insisting “well I didn’t notice that it needed new tyres when I bought it and I've crashed it twice, that cost me £1,000 so the car is actually worth £3,000”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The biggest thing to come from this I think, the fact the Ashley side hasn't responded to the bids or even tried to negotiate. If thats the case it shows beyond believe that he doesnt want to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It seems pretty clear to me from the way that she's spoken that the offers that are in place aren't likely to be improved upon. I think there's the slight possibility of an improved or worse offer depending upon whether we stay up or not, but if we go down I'd say there's almost no chance of any offer coming in. I don't even have any hope to fight against anymore tbh, it's much easier to just take it as a given that nothing will happen and Ashley is here until something else comes along and fully forces his hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It seems pretty clear to me from the way that she's spoken that the offers that are in place aren't likely to be improved upon. I think there's the slight possibility of an improved or worse offer depending upon whether we stay up or not, but if we go down I'd say there's almost no chance of any offer coming in. I don't even have any hope to fight against anymore tbh, it's much easier to just take it as a given that nothing will happen and Ashley is here until something else comes along and fully forces his hand. I think there could still be improved bids, but I do think it will depend on us staying up. I can’t see anything happening until we have confirmed safety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Don't think he had any intention of selling and was just going through the usual motions he does when things get a bit heated on him. He will have been livid that someone actually came up and made an offer this time though, he wasn't expecting that, hence the ignore it and it will go away tactic he is using. The bloke is a fat lying c***, who puts in nothing and gains so much from owning it. He is never leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 There's a couple of fairly large variables that mitigate against any improved offers until after May. There is the small matter of what league we're in, but also the new PL rights deal as well as the HMRC decision. Surely there couldn't be a riskier time to buy? Especially if she's being asked to increase her offer in the order of 20% (or just the lazy 50mil in some people's eyes) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Have a feeling this isn't dead, just a lot more public. Would love to see a £300m no clauses bid made public and see what happens next. You'll have to wait for us to be on 40 points for that to happen. By then Ashley could easily move the goalposts again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 She clearly still wants to buy and she's made 3 bids - wouldn't be surprised if she made a 4th and final one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Don't think he had any intention of selling and was just going through the usual motions he does when things get a bit heated on him. He will have been livid that someone actually came up and made an offer this time though, he wasn't expecting that, hence the ignore it and it will go away tactic he is using. The bloke is a fat lying c***, who puts in nothing and gains so much from owning it. He is never leaving. There wasn't any heat on him at all. If he's done it, it's purely for shits and giggles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 She clearly still wants to buy and she's made 3 bids - wouldn't be surprised if she made a 4th and final one. Which is basically what the whole 'no offers' shite has been about. I like how she basically called his bluff about other bids "someone has bid £350m!" ... "nee bother, but gis a shout when that is proven to be a lie" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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