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Newcastle United may turn to Chelsea and England midfielder Ross Barkley, 27, if they fail to sign his compatriot Joe Willock, 21, from Arsenal. (The Athletic - subscription required)

 

Leicester City midfielder Hamza Choudhury, 23, is pushing for a loan move to Newcastle. The former England Under-21 international sees it as a chance to play regular first-team football. (Northern Echo)

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Can recall @brummie saying that Barkley was terrible for Villa last season? 

 

Jones is 29 so that wouldn't make sense, but then again he's damaged goods (20 games in two years) and connected to Man Utd, so, y'know...

 

Break-ya-legs Choudury seems an inevitable signing assuming the big clubs don't fancy throwing us lowlifes any scraps. A creative choice, as honest Steve might say. 

 

Wonder what the craic with Willems is. Trying to see if he's still capable of kicking a ball after two years of not having done so? 

 

How many loans are you even allowed to name in a matchday squad? 2? It's 4 loan signings in total isn't it? 

 

Stuff to set your pulses racing in any case. 

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5 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

What's mad about Phil Jones is he broke into top flight football so young and has ended up playing so few games. Bizarre career.


His breakthrough season at Blackburn and start at Man Utd I thought he’d go on to win 100+ caps and captain Man Utd & England for years, he looked an awesome prospect.

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I know it's just rumours but fuck me. So lacking in creative thought and unimaginative. Just hanging out near the various bins waiting for some scraps. Pathetic.

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These are just big names who have been found wanting or are over the hill, perfect for managers who don't actually watch players or have any systems which require certain assets. Plus they are British so again you can see the attraction for Bruce. 

 

"Proper players" as Souness would say. 

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43 minutes ago, toontownman said:

It is like the Rose signing. They are  name enough and "British" enough to placate and abate lots of our fanbase that remembers them being good.

 

 

 

Just another example of how we've purposefully limited ourselves by switching from a knowledgeable and cultured manager who can pick a player, to a know-nowt twunt who wouldn't know a good player if it was staring him in the face. 

 

Bruce signings

British 

British

British (jury's out) 

British (shit) 

British (shit) 

British (shit) 

Austrian

Algerian (shit) 

British (shit) 

Dutch

Swedish (shit) 

British (shit) 

French

Brazilian (shit) 

 

Rafa (PL) signings

Italian (never played) 

Paraguayan

Venezuelan

Brazilian

Argentinian

Japanese (shit) 

Swiss

South Korean

Slovakian

Algerian 

Spanish (shit, but did his bit) 

Spanish

Spanish

British (shit, improving) 

French

 

Find it laughable when people use Rafa's signings as a stick to beat him with, meanwhile we've got this mug in the dugout who hasn't got a fucking clue. 

 

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Tbf, I don't think Bruce is that bad at identifying players. Robertson and Maguire at Hull, Wilson, Willock, Lewis still has time to come good here, Fraser perhaps too, Lazaro wasn't too bad although the fecker never played him. He just hasn't got a clue how to use or nurture them the majority of the time.

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2 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

Tbf, I don't think Bruce is that bad at identifying players. Robertson and Maguire at Hull, Wilson, Willock, Lewis still has time to come good here, Fraser perhaps too, Lazaro wasn't too bad although the fecker never played him. He just hasn't got a clue how to use or nurture them the majority of the time.

I doubt he had anything to do with identifying any of them.
When you don’t rely on tactics (because you’re a dinosaur) your requirements are simple. You just tell your recruitment team to look for fast players (Robertson, Fraser, Lewis), big players (Maguire, Krafth, Choudhary) attacking players with a bit of magic (Willock, Lazaro) and strikers that can stick it away.  Every now again your Luddite approach to recruitment will unearth a gem who, despite your 1980s coaching, finds a way to shine and earn himself a big move.  

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Good post @Holmesy. I was probably giving him far too much credit with respect to identifying players; but the point remains about the benefits of having a manager with knowledge and connections on a global scale. As opposed to Stevey Kebab who'll even pick you up from Stoke in his Ford Escort if you fancy playing for Newcastle, like it's the late sixties. 

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Just like everything else with this club, the requirement (or lack thereof) is just lazy. Like Yorkie says, any ol British cast off will do. Can't be fucked to do any proper scouting. 

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29 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

I doubt he had anything to do with identifying any of them.
When you don’t rely on tactics (because you’re a dinosaur) your requirements are simple. You just tell your recruitment team to look for fast players (Robertson, Fraser, Lewis), big players (Maguire, Krafth, Choudhary) attacking players with a bit of magic (Willock, Lazaro) and strikers that can stick it away.  Every now again your Luddite approach to recruitment will unearth a gem who, despite your 1980s coaching, finds a way to shine and earn himself a big move.  

 

Plus if they are established names like Ross Berkeley and Phil Jones, even wor Gary the window cleaner will know about them, you don't need any fancy Dan scouting knowledge to identify your next target! 

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5 minutes ago, Nobody said:

Just like everything else with this club, the requirement (or lack thereof) is just lazy. Like Yorkie says, any ol British cast off will do. Can't be fucked to do any proper scouting. 

 

Aye. I'd even include Wilson in there as well tbh. He's turned out great and seems a great lad, with a conversion rate comfortably higher than any previous season of his in the PL, but he was simply available and familiar. There was no strategy to it; I still don't even think he necessarily has the right attributes to get the best out of our other attackers tbh - but obviously he makes up for it in raw athleticism and finishing ability. 

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Again signing a Barkley on loan would be fine, if it wasn't your only punt.

 

My issue has never been with the club looking to be cute in the transfer market, its with the club ONLY looking to be cute in the transfer market.

 

I can imagine Ashley justifying his strategy, "well spent money in 2015 and got relegated!" Leaving out the bit about having McClaren running the side.

 

He just never gets it right does he. Its either shit manager + shit funds, shit manager + decent funds or good manager + shit funds. Never does the dice roll on good manager + decent funds, which would see us compete in the top half.

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