mrmojorisin75 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Terrible How? Think that’s a great idea tbh. Should have been the law from the start. so at attacker could be at full pelt with the defender moving up to play him off, if his trailing leg during the sprinting motion is in line with the defender he's onside? sounds worse than now tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Terrible How? Think that’s a great idea tbh. Should have been the law from the start. so at attacker could be at full pelt with the defender moving up to play him off, if his trailing leg during the sprinting motion is in line with the defender he's onside? sounds worse than now tbh It'll be just as bad, stupid fucking lines being drawn etc. Do it like the Dutch if you have to have VAR. Thick lines, and if the lines touch, then go with whatever the original call was. Makes sure it's closer to clear and obvious that it was originally being touted for. Also, get rid of VAR for keepers off their lines. They've literally got an official watching just that. If he can't call it, then let the keeper off. While we're at it, get rid VAR all together actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 If you’re not going to abolish it, the cricket approach of ‘umpires decision’ seems the best. Make the officials referee the game like they did before, then if the decision is massively wrong VAR can change it. If it’s close, go with the on-field decision. A lot of sports use video like that, it’s even what the ‘clear and obvious error’ shite is meant to suggest. Also go back to intentional handball only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Terrible How? Think that’s a great idea tbh. Should have been the law from the start. What was so wrong with the offside rule before VAR came in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Terrible How? Think that’s a great idea tbh. Should have been the law from the start. so at attacker could be at full pelt with the defender moving up to play him off, if his trailing leg during the sprinting motion is in line with the defender he's onside? sounds worse than now tbh It'll be just as bad, stupid fucking lines being drawn etc. Do it like the Dutch if you have to have VAR. Thick lines, and if the lines touch, then go with whatever the original call was. Makes sure it's closer to clear and obvious that it was originally being touted for. Also, get rid of VAR for keepers off their lines. They've literally got an official watching just that. If he can't call it, then let the keeper off. While we're at it, get rid VAR all together actually. It would be better for me if we just remove the lines entirely. I do not trust or believe in them anyway; it is a technology with a relatively large margin of error being used to measure millimetres. Have the official call offside and let VAR intervene if is demonstrably wrong to the human eye. The rules of football were generally OK before VAR, we should not change them to suit it. This is what has led to the several laughable interpretations of the handball rule in the last 2-3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 It moves the problems from making difficult measurements from one side to the other and in doing so gives an advantage to the clubs who have the faster players, I.E. the bigger clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Thicker lines? How do you decide how thick the lines should be. FML. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 One of the cornerstones of the Premier League is thick lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Terrible How? Think that’s a great idea tbh. Should have been the law from the start. What was so wrong with the offside rule before VAR came in? You think if your head or shoulder for instance is closer to the goal than the defender’s feet, and your feet are onside, that’s right to be disallowed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Should just scrap the offside rule altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Should just scrap the offside rule altogether. May as well just scrap football the game would be unrecognisable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I think the real problem is the high precision measurements, so moving the line doesn't solve the problem - however, a more liberal offside rule would at least mean fewer consequential interventions by VAR, so I'd tend to be in favour. If they really want tech and accuracy, I hope these automatic offside detector things they're testing speed-up, that'd be way better. I do wonder whether the people who were most keen on introducing VAR are now the ones who are most critical of it. It was never going to be perfect. It was never going to eliminate doubt or controversy. It was never going to stop managers from moaning when decisions go against them. Expectations need to be more realistic. Don't mean to be a dick, but VAR is ruining the game exactly how I imagined it would - I was always exasperated by how casually people were in favour of fucking ruining one of the most fundamental aspects of the sport for fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Terrible How? Think that’s a great idea tbh. Should have been the law from the start. What was so wrong with the offside rule before VAR came in? You think if your head or shoulder for instance is closer to the goal than the defender’s feet, and your feet are onside, that’s right to be disallowed? That isn't what Wenger is proposing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 It is? From his description if your feet are inline with part of the defender, he’s onside or am I completely getting it wrong? Current rule if your chest is behind the defence it’s offside. That’s a daft rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 He's not just suggesting your head or shoulder though. If your whole body is offside apart from your heel then you'd be deemed as onside. That seems mad to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Should just scrap the offside rule altogether. May as well just scrap football the game would be unrecognisable Might give Joelinton more opportunities to score given how often he gets caught offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 He's not just suggesting your head or shoulder though. If your whole body is offside apart from your heel then you'd be deemed as onside. That seems mad to me Disagree to be honest I’d much prefer more goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 He's not just suggesting your head or shoulder though. If your whole body is offside apart from your heel then you'd be deemed as onside. That seems mad to me Disagree to be honest I’d much prefer more goals. Makes sense to me. Chances are the players are in motion with attackers moving goalward, defenders potentially stationary or going the other way. At the moment attackers are being penalised because they’re attacking the ball and direction of the ball and if their Johnson strays offside when the rest of their body is on they're punished. Defenders aren’t. All the marginals are with the defending team which is not was offside was or is for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 VAR brings far more problems than solutions. But it’s here, it’s staying and rules are being changed to accommodate it. The viewing is less enjoyable, but the decision makers don’t care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpinho Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 But why is it staying? Whats in it for them keeping it? Genuinely don't get why PL don't just sack it off for their "product" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 But why is it staying? Whats in it for them keeping it? Genuinely don't get why PL don't just sack it off for their "product" Even if a majority are against VAR at the moment, I don't think people will accept going back to getting clear offsides, clear penalties wrong, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 VAR has simply made me like football a lot less than I used to. I always knew I'd hate it but it's been even worse than I ever imagined. I can't even fathom how they think the drawing lines on a pitch thing for multiple minutes is a good idea. It's as if nobody who is coming up with this stuff has ever actually understood why the offside rule exists. The acceptance of inherent subjectivity in decisions and common sense self-policing nature of the game has been completely thrown out of the window in pursuit of an unachievable end goal - to the terminal detriment of the entertainment and emotional value of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 And this fucking abomination would just about kill things altogether. The last thing football needs on top of everything else is rugby level noncery turning referees into TV stars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 He's not just suggesting your head or shoulder though. If your whole body is offside apart from your heel then you'd be deemed as onside. That seems mad to me Disagree to be honest I’d much prefer more goals. Makes sense to me. Chances are the players are in motion with attackers moving goalward, defenders potentially stationary or going the other way. At the moment attackers are being penalised because they’re attacking the ball and direction of the ball and if their Johnson strays offside when the rest of their body is on they're punished. Defenders aren’t. All the marginals are with the defending team which is not was offside was or is for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 But why is it staying? Whats in it for them keeping it? Genuinely don't get why PL don't just sack it off for their "product" Even if a majority are against VAR at the moment, I don't think people will accept going back to getting clear offsides, clear penalties wrong, etc. Aye, now we’ve had this imagine goals like the Aguero one here when we went down being allowed to stand? Wouldn’t happen. Even under Wenger’s idea that would have likely been offside let alone the marginal ones we get now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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