ponsaelius Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 3 hours ago, worthy said: Ill rather fucking have Hayden playing every game, even if Hayden is injured. Longstaff is close to useless. The same Isaac Hayden who's not good enough for Standard Liege and currently being kept out of the QPR team by Jack Colback. We need to upgrade on Longstaff (we basically already did) but some of the shit spouted on here is embarrassing tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Anyone else see him turn round and stare towards the gallowgate after about the 10th time of people moaning and groaning at him He was raging. Whether people rate him or not that shows that the shit he gets is getting to him Not on really Burn got the same a few games in a row. In particular Luton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 2 hours ago, jack j said: Anyone else see him turn round and stare towards the gallowgate after about the 10th time of people moaning and groaning at him He was raging. Whether people rate him or not that shows that the shit he gets is getting to him Not on really Burn got the same a few games in a row. In particular Luton Yep. Was after he didn’t get his head up and played a backwards pass instead of a forward one. He didn’t have a great game but wasn’t awful. The level of abuse he (and Burn got) is very poor but indicative of large numbers of our thick entitled fanbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 18 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said: He's garbage and has been most of the season. If he's starting games regularly for us next season...fucking hell. I don't disagree entirely with you, ideally he's a squad player and he is needed for our homegrown quota BUT I'm fairly sure he will be starting at least the first 2/3 games of next season. Tonali won't be back from his ban, Big Joe and Little Joe may not quite be up to speed and Bruno may well have been sold. All ifs and buts ofcourse. I've mentally prepared myself to see him start more often than not next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 I dont want to spend a huge amount of energy defending him as he has been poor, but he has also been better than he has been showing recently. I still think we need to sign a proper defensive mid in summer so we have 4 excellent options between bruno joelinton tonali and new dm, and then backup of willock and longstaff (though i think if money came for willock sell. He can play better than he has been though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 21 minutes ago, Tiresias said: I dont want to spend a huge amount of energy defending him as he has been poor, but he has also been better than he has been showing recently. I still think we need to sign a proper defensive mid in summer so we have 4 excellent options between bruno joelinton tonali and new dm, and then backup of willock and longstaff (though i think if money came for willock sell. He can play better than he has been though. Definitely this, but I’d be selling Wilock and have Anderson take his place. Someone like Joao Palhinha from Fulham would be great. Remember, Bruno can play the no8 role easily aswell. That’d be four quality centre mids, with Anderson and Longstaff as back up - the latter can perhaps shine more when there’s less pressure and not starting every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 32 minutes ago, TheDimpleboy said: Aye, think he said something too. Don't blame him one bit. Remember Scott parker doing something similar? Think he told some miserable bloke in the east stand to fuck off if I remember correctly was topic of the week on the 3 legends phone in Good on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 8 minutes ago, timnufc22 said: Definitely this, but I’d be selling Wilock and have Anderson take his place. Someone like Joao Palhinha from Fulham would be great. Remember, Bruno can play the no8 role easily aswell. That’d be four quality centre mids, with Anderson and Longstaff as back up - the latter can perhaps shine more when there’s less pressure and not starting every game. He’s the last thing we need. Another midfielder with no legs. Good player but not for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 1 hour ago, Mazzy said: I don't disagree entirely with you, ideally he's a squad player and he is needed for our homegrown quota BUT I'm fairly sure he will be starting at least the first 2/3 games of next season. Tonali won't be back from his ban, Big Joe and Little Joe may not quite be up to speed and Bruno may well have been sold. All ifs and buts ofcourse. I've mentally prepared myself to see him start more often than not next season. Aye, maybe. But it can't be more than that. He just isn't good enough. Agree with others that directed abuse towards him solely inside the ground isn't on, mind. Like it was yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 He has been much better than he is playing now. Whatever this injury is plus low confidence and now we are seeing him at his worst. Hopefully he can get the injury sorted and return to the decent player he has proven to be in years past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 He's better than he's playing now but still not good enough for the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Can't really bash a player while he's playing with an injury. We have no idea how the pain/discomfort feels while he's playing. He was a big part of our success last season and quietly went about his business under the radar at times. He's not elite of course but he's no Jack Colback either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 If he is injured it'll effect his game big time with fitness balance and mentally worrying he'll take another knock on it, that's why he falls over all the time now I cannot remember him doing that as much in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 On 27/04/2024 at 18:02, arnonel said: Hayden > Longstaff If you compare the best version of Hayden to the worst version of Longstaff then sure. If you mean Hayden would have done a better job for us this seaon than Longstaff has you should just quit having an opinion on anything, ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Longstaff is such an odd player. I really can't understand how he can no longer pass a ball at all anymore. Or is he just doing more now and we notice it more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 I’m his biggest hater right now but at the end of last season we were desperate for him to return. Once he’s recovered from this ‘injury’ and regained his confidence he’ll be a valuable squad player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 13 minutes ago, TRC said: Longstaff is such an odd player. I really can't understand how he can no longer pass a ball at all anymore. Or is he just doing more now and we notice it more? Because half the stadium fucking groans at him if he does the slightest thing wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubblyDubblyDubbly Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 He's having a really poor spell but the BBC player ratings are laughable. 3/4's when the rest are all 6/7+. He's a proper scapegoat atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 2 minutes ago, DubblyDubblyDubbly said: He's having a really poor spell but the BBC player ratings are laughable. 3/4's when the rest are all 6/7+. He's a proper scapegoat atm. I'm not so sure like, most games he does almost nothing to contribute and sometimes actively helps the opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 6 hours ago, LFEE said: He’s the last thing we need. Another midfielder with no legs. Good player but not for us. Fair play maybe not him but someone who can play no6 and has class on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 15 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I'm not so sure like, most games he does almost nothing to contribute and sometimes actively helps the opposition. Playing him is like the opponent having 12 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoForJoy Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Longstaff lacks one thing no manager will ever be able to coach into him. Aggression. Same thing applies to Jacob Murphy. I'd love to see both of their duelling stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 The lad is completely out of form and due to the ongoing injury issues, Howe can’t drop him. I feel sorry for him, tbh - but I also think he’s been utterly shite of late. The crowd shouldn’t turn on him, though. He doesn’t select himself, he works hard and tries. I wouldn’t want to see him sold in the summer - I’d rather he was what I think Howe views him as, a back-up midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 6 minutes ago, TwoForJoy said: Longstaff lacks one thing no manager will ever be able to coach into him. Aggression. Same thing applies to Jacob Murphy. I'd love to see both of their duelling stats. he had plenty under Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 10 hours ago, LFEE said: Yep. Was after he didn’t get his head up and played a backwards pass instead of a forward one. He didn’t have a great game but wasn’t awful. The level of abuse he (and Burn got) is very poor but indicative of large numbers of our thick entitled fanbase. He's a massive scapegoat right now and it clearly affects him. All the moaning and groaning no matter what he does will only further damage his shattered confidence. I don't think the crowd reacts at all if anyone else plays that backwards pass, wasn't even that bad decision. Edited April 29 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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