ToonArmy1892 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 He didn't WANT to go to China ffs, he wanted to stay here and make it work, when it became blatently obvious it couldn't because of Ashley, he had to look at other options. he knew last summer he could never change Ashley ffs. That’s why he told them in May after one meeting. f*** sake it is possible to believe Ashley is a c*** who f***ed Rafa about and didn’t share his ambition and also believe Rafa saw a way out and a lucrative one at that Well we agree then, wanted to stay, couldn't, so went. Pretty much aye but let’s not kid ourselves that the offer from China didn’t turn his head and make up his decision. I’m not that naive, but ultimately he left coz Ashley is a c***. Anyway hope he loses it all But the point is if Ashley wasn't a massive c***, there wouldn't have been a decision for Rafa to make. Some people are going on like Rafa wanted to leave even if Ashley gave him the assurances he wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Think our reclusive, private owner gives more rare exclusive interviews than any other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Rafa is a politician, and very good at playing the media, but we've had a decade of seeing Ashley at work. We know where the blame lies. He's absolutely correct to say that if he agreed to pay him more there'd be another thing and another thing and another thing. And rightly so. Because Benitez wants to win things and he knew what NUFC was capable of being if given even a modicum of TLC. He wanted investment, he wanted a state of the art training ground, he wanted better players. Good. I want that. The only times in our recent history this club has been where it should be is when we had managers that fought tooth and nail for the club. I believe Rafa was halfway out the door come May and I don't blame him. He'd had to try and deal with the cretins in charge for the last three years. He owed them and us absolutely fuck all. I can't blame him for deciding to double his money elsewhere. I'm never setting foot in the ground until Ashley goes, and I ain't earning a penny out of that arrangement. Yes - this is my feelings on it. Put better then I tried to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Unfortunately I think mike is right on this one. He and you have never been more wrong A lot of it is no doubt bullshit but don’t think Rafa is as innocent as everyone thinks he is Explain. Rafa played a fantastic game the whole time he was here. Leaking stuff to the press at the perfect times. One example being Rafa’s people informed sky that he’d be at the training ground? Why? Coz it would whip the fans into a frenzy. I love Rafa and I hate Ashley but Rafa played a good political game That leak apparently come from Sky London HQ. Who lives down London again?? Really? Coz Pete graves basically said it came from Rafa’s people. He could be lying but why would he? can’t remember seeing that and I’m basically glued twitter all day at work hoping Ashley fucks off or we sign loads of players. If you can find it I’ll hold me hands up and apologise. Yeah he tweeted that it came from Rafa’s people. But it doesn’t mean it’s true. Reeks of bullshit if you ask me. I’ve had a look but can’t find it. Must have deleted it. I’m certain he tweeted it tho. It was around the time the story came out that Rafa had decided to go by May and people were giving Pete Graves dogs abuse coz he was being arsey saying Rafa was at training ground coz he worked there when in actual fact he was clearing his office. I love Rafa and I hate Ashley but let’s not forget no one thought Rafa would go to China and if u think money wasn’t the main factor for going there you are kidding yourself. That said I think Rafa knew he couldn’t work under these cunts anymore. Only so many times he can get fucked around Was it Downie maybe? Anyway, I don’t believe a word of it Aye mate the tweet is posted above Yeah ta, saw it. Was a bit behind. Rafa didn’t want to leave though mate. He wanted to stay and build a project, he only left because it was impossible under Ashley. Can’t blame him for going to China for a nice pay day when there is nothing else in the U.K. available at the moment and he’s not able to build the vision he saw here. You just cannot blame him one iota. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 "And referring to the BZG's approach to buy the club, Ashley said: "'The last bid, the one from UAE, he's a prince and he's got £38bn or £100bn, all these numbers — well, why would you even care what you're paying then?" Didn't he say he never recieved a bid from BZG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 "And referring to the BZG's approach to buy the club, Ashley said: "'The last bid, the one from UAE, he's a prince and he's got £38bn or £100bn, all these numbers — well, why would you even care what you're paying then?" Didn't he say he never recieved a bid from BZG? He never said that. Journos were saying it but he never commented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Unfortunately I think mike is right on this one. He and you have never been more wrong A lot of it is no doubt bullshit but don’t think Rafa is as innocent as everyone thinks he is Explain. Rafa played a fantastic game the whole time he was here. Leaking stuff to the press at the perfect times. One example being Rafa’s people informed sky that he’d be at the training ground? Why? Coz it would whip the fans into a frenzy. I love Rafa and I hate Ashley but Rafa played a good political game That leak apparently come from Sky London HQ. Who lives down London again?? Really? Coz Pete graves basically said it came from Rafa’s people. He could be lying but why would he? can’t remember seeing that and I’m basically glued twitter all day at work hoping Ashley fucks off or we sign loads of players. If you can find it I’ll hold me hands up and apologise. Yeah he tweeted that it came from Rafa’s people. But it doesn’t mean it’s true. Reeks of bullshit if you ask me. I’ve had a look but can’t find it. Must have deleted it. I’m certain he tweeted it tho. It was around the time the story came out that Rafa had decided to go by May and people were giving Pete Graves dogs abuse coz he was being arsey saying Rafa was at training ground coz he worked there when in actual fact he was clearing his office. I love Rafa and I hate Ashley but let’s not forget no one thought Rafa would go to China and if u think money wasn’t the main factor for going there you are kidding yourself. That said I think Rafa knew he couldn’t work under these cunts anymore. Only so many times he can get fucked around Was it Downie maybe? Anyway, I don’t believe a word of it Aye mate the tweet is posted above Yeah ta, saw it. Was a bit behind. Rafa didn’t want to leave though mate. He wanted to stay and build a project, he only left because it was impossible under Ashley. Can’t blame him for going to China for a nice pay day when there is nothing else in the U.K. available at the moment and he’s not able to build the vision he saw here. You just cannot blame him one iota. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 He didn't WANT to go to China ffs, he wanted to stay here and make it work, when it became blatently obvious it couldn't because of Ashley, he had to look at other options. he knew last summer he could never change Ashley ffs. That’s why he told them in May after one meeting. Fuck sake it is possible to believe Ashley is a cunt who fucked Rafa about and didn’t share his ambition and also believe Rafa saw a way out and a lucrative one at that Saw a way out? He saw no way to take this club forward so was left with no other option basically, you're making it sound like he has some blame to share here which is not the case at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelveys Hair Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 He didn't WANT to go to China ffs, he wanted to stay here and make it work, when it became blatently obvious it couldn't because of Ashley, he had to look at other options. he knew last summer he could never change Ashley ffs. That’s why he told them in May after one meeting. f*** sake it is possible to believe Ashley is a c*** who f***ed Rafa about and didn’t share his ambition and also believe Rafa saw a way out and a lucrative one at that Well we agree then, wanted to stay, couldn't, so went. Pretty much aye but let’s not kid ourselves that the offer from China didn’t turn his head and make up his decision. I’m not that naive, but ultimately he left coz Ashley is a cunt. Anyway hope he loses it all You keep saying it but why the fuck would Rafa want to stay just to keep us up?` No training ground upgrades.. we've bought Joelinton who could be great but has never scored more than 7 league goals in a season.. even if we buy Saint Maximin he lacks end product, could be great and I hope we sign him but its a gamble. Your asking a bloke coming into the twilight of his management career to trust a known charlatan. Was Keegan not a warning? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 It wasn't 7month ago he sat in a TV studio and said he was hopeful a sale could be reached imminently. Now he's on about owning the club forever. Sadly I believe the latter and its time everybody realises it - he's not going of his own accord, ever!!! that means this club will be sh*t for the rest of your life and by design. The sort of people that just accept that I couldn't have less respect for. My only attachment are these efforts to get him out and hoped effect of the enivitable (matter of time) relegation combined with the enivtable not coming straight back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 "And referring to the BZG's approach to buy the club, Ashley said: "'The last bid, the one from UAE, he's a prince and he's got £38bn or £100bn, all these numbers — well, why would you even care what you're paying then?" Didn't he say he never recieved a bid from BZG? Don't believe anything he said in that interview. He may have received one, he may not. But this propaganda piece is not based on fact, lets be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 So things I learned from his "honest" interview. He knows he is a shit owner, has little idea how and more importantly zero interest in trying to fix that. He lives in his own fucking lala land. Doesn't like managers/staff that demand better and wants a yes man that wont ask for more - Bruce Still has zero education of what/who is good/shit in football. Almost admirable trolling with the "I think I could own this club forever" He is comforted only when he rests his head on Richard keys arm hair. Is still an ubercunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 What a fucking cunt.. What a pathetic liar.. At least he admits that he will never sell the club, the fucking wanker. Some of our fans should have a long think about this prospect. His bizarre reference about not using drugs probably means that he's using drugs heavily. Would at least explain some of his delusion. Who the fuck does he think he is... to overtake a historic club.. a fucking city like that? Just fucking die prick His second reference to drugs in two days - apparently said something about drug testing CEOs (or other executives?) Probably more likely that the person who made the 674m mistake was a massive cokehead, something Ashley didn't have a problem with until it lightened his wallet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 File that interview under "horse and cart" bullshit. The man is a waste of skin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 "And referring to the BZG's approach to buy the club, Ashley said: "'The last bid, the one from UAE, he's a prince and he's got £38bn or £100bn, all these numbers — well, why would you even care what you're paying then?" Didn't he say he never recieved a bid from BZG? But didn't have proof of funds apparently £38bn - £100bn - canny big difference, you'd think you'd know which it was. Sheik Mansour has unlimited wealth but funnily enough he didn't like getting jerked around by a lotto lout like Ashley. Bought a very similar club for less than half the price from a WILLING seller and without any bullsh*t shennanigans. In Mike's vernaculor Its like I can afford to buy a tube of crisps for £10 but I'm hardly going to pay it when I get it somewhere else for a fraction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Unfortunately I think mike is right on this one. You sir, are a rectangle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 How ever many years it would it take for a new club to surpass SD FC. (A successful boycott would mean exponential growth for one as the other shrinks). It would take a lot less than forever and a lot less than Ashley's life span. (natural life span anyway). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 "And referring to the BZG's approach to buy the club, Ashley said: "'The last bid, the one from UAE, he's a prince and he's got £38bn or £100bn, all these numbers — well, why would you even care what you're paying then?" Didn't he say he never recieved a bid from BZG? Dunno. Dunno what to believe, but if this is true then we can infer that the group Caulkin knows about haven't made a bid. Unless it's been sat on the table all this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Mike Ashley is a confirmed cunt. Financial specialists confirm he’s a cunt. Senior members of his management team confirm he’s a cunt. Even the fucking government called him out as a cunt. Yet thick as fuck Newcastle supporters, despite the club looking like a piece of shit, believe him! We deserve everything that’s coming to this club. Fucking car crash right here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number9shirt Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Unfortunately I think mike is right on this one. You sir, are a rectangle. Rafa made too many demands (same as at previous clubs) he wanted to go to China & signed a pre contract agreement he also applied for the Leicester job. Go form an opinion, research both sides of the argument or failing that just fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 "And referring to the BZG's approach to buy the club, Ashley said: "'The last bid, the one from UAE, he's a prince and he's got £38bn or £100bn, all these numbers — well, why would you even care what you're paying then?" Didn't he say he never recieved a bid from BZG? Dunno. Dunno what to believe, but if this is true then we can infer that the group Caulkin knows about haven't made a bid. Unless it's been sat on the table all this time. You'd tend to think Caulkin was making it up but the other side of the story is from a liar who pays a lie making machine to lie for him. Safe bet is it was never for sale so it wouldn't matter who was interested, made up people, not made up people, its all the same. Just so many lies around the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Unfortunately I think mike is right on this one. You sir, are a rectangle. Rafa made too many demands (same as at previous clubs) he wanted to go to China & signed a pre contract agreement he also applied for the Leicester job. Go form an opinion, research both sides of the argument or failing that just fuck off. There is no evidence to suggest that Rafa applied for the Leicester job, just that he was linked to it. If anything, he turned it down. Rafa has many offers from China before his current job, he even joked about it in one interview. At anytime he could have left NUFC for much bigger pay, he never did. It wasn’t until after 3 years of Ashley when he decided he could no longer fight him, he was even rumoured to be one the one who got Staveley interested in buying the club. Ashley says he went for the money and was never loyal though, and stupid people will believe that. Let’s not forget that it was only a year ago Ashley and Charnley were offering Rafa to the Spanish FA for national managers job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Unfortunately I think mike is right on this one. You sir, are a rectangle. Rafa made too many demands (same as at previous clubs) he wanted to go to China & signed a pre contract agreement he also applied for the Leicester job. Go form an opinion, research both sides of the argument or failing that just fuck off. Dumb is dumb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I was gutted when Keegan left, devastated when Sir Bobby went but I didn't cry, yet here I am in my mid 30s welling up reading Rafa's words. Doesn’t take much to change a mind like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I was gutted when Keegan left, devastated when Sir Bobby went but I didn't cry, yet here I am in my mid 30s welling up reading Rafa's words. Doesn’t take much to change a mind like. Small mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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