r0cafella Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Should be worth a listen Every above average player that never went on to do anything more in the game other than appear on talkSport: "Ashley is a good business man". Yeah I’m listening to this now and it’s full of inaccuracies Very poorly researched and trying to create Balance where much doesn’t exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Should be worth a listen I’ve thought this for a while. - Spurs valuation is 1.6 million ours 350 million*. - Kenyon believes he can bridge the gap through properly running the club. - Kenyon does not have the money to buy. - Ashley does not have the skills to run the club and he cannot sell the club. - His primary/only motivation for owning the club is sport direct. Sport direct will benefit more with a successful Newcastle. Why would he not look to someone like Kenyon to run the club, maybe with some outside investment? Potential the club adds a billion to its valuation. Sports direct gets positive press and coverage. As much as I hate the bloke I don’t go along with the line that he’s an utter moron or that he despises us and is punishing us. He likes a gamble this seems like a decent one to me. Edit - basically say Kenyon has 50% of the money through backers. In effect Ashley could say I’ll in effect be the other 50% of the backers. He get 175 million now. The group own the club and run it. Maybe his 175 million turns into 500 million. * https://www.forbes.com/teams/tottenham-hotspur/#6aa109f453ed https://www.forbes.com/teams/newcastle-united/#6e8aaf94733d You forgot to factor in the most important thing: the bloke is an absolute control freak. There is no way he wants to hand over any meaningful shareholding where he won't be the absolute dictator having his say on every player signed and every penny spent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 He can't see beyond the nose of his face. He's too shortsighted and too impatient to build the club properly. Let's say he passes on Joelinton and spends 16M on Rondon and then puts 20M to advance the youth setup and training facilities. Let's say he opens the advertising to something other than SD and realizes say, 10M instead of 2M. Let's say he did this 10 years ago. Where would the club be? Much better place IMO. 350M? Who know, maybe 700M because we're fighting for top spots instead of settling for (maybe) not getting relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johneddy Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Why are we still debating this cunt he played his cards with Keegan Lying conniving twat who has duped 40 odd thousand fans to accept us as an advertising slogan for a shit sportswear company Cant believe that people still turn up when in fact it is in our power to lose the fukker within months ...ashamed of it all and could happily twat everyone who still attends knowing all that we do - NUFC matchday fans have no principals or determination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johneddy Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Sadder than the mackems everyone who supports this man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Wonder how different our history under him may have been had he appointed someone who knows about football after Mort (ie, Kenyon)? If early on we’d started making money as well as have his SD tat everywhere and ran it like a normal football club, he might have done things differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Wonder how different our history under him may have been had he appointed someone who knows about football after Mort (ie, Kenyon)? If early on we’d started making money as well as have his SD tat everywhere and ran it like a normal football club, he might have done things differently. He’d be a different person if any of that was relevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Reckon he'll gan for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 It’s total shite, so possibly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Yimentov Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Why are we still debating this c*** he played his cards with Keegan Lying conniving t*** who has duped 40 odd thousand fans to accept us as an advertising slogan for a s*** sportswear company Cant believe that people still turn up when in fact it is in our power to lose the fukker within months ...ashamed of it all and could happily t*** everyone who still attends knowing all that we do - NUFC matchday fans have no principals or determination This is the worst part about it. It's easy to get shot of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johneddy Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 No chance that platinum club will ever support this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Saturday night, 2 hours after the end of a game and this forum is dead, well done Ashley, you've destroyed everything. There was a time when you couldn't keep up with the posts on here on a match day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Reckon he'll gan for it? The idea of Ashley moving into the frumpy middle aged womens market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 First day of ownership he spends alone, in one of the stores. Trying on the outfits, dancing round the store, singing "I feel pretty. Oh so pretty..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 And then the whole store burns down right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 And then the whole store burns down right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 It’s definitely where he gets his jeans from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The Athletic can reveal that Ashley met with two Mexican businessmen in London last week as various negotiations to end his 12-year tenure continue. Unfortunately for those hoping Newcastle will finally change hands, it was a familiar story: Ashley is said to have come across as “rude” and the conversation came to nothing. The visitors were club owners, though it is unclear if they were the same Mexicans who reportedly had Newcastle on their radar in May. That was apparently the Orlegi Group, led by Alejandro Irarragorri and owners of the club Santos Laguna. At last week’s meeting, it is understood that the two businessmen revealed to Ashley a fascination with Newcastle dating back to the 2005 movie Goal!. In the film, a Mexican-born footballer called Santiago Munez is offered a trial with Newcastle and goes on to fulfil his childhood dream of playing professional football. Their chances of completing a similar fairytale on Tyneside look slim. From David Ornstein in The Athletic this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 No surprise in that. Has ashley ever sold a business in his life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 No surprise in that. Has ashley ever sold a business in his life? Yes he sold Dunlop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Must be January soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Must be January soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The Athletic can reveal that Ashley met with two Mexican businessmen in London last week as various negotiations to end his 12-year tenure continue. Unfortunately for those hoping Newcastle will finally change hands, it was a familiar story: Ashley is said to have come across as “rude” and the conversation came to nothing. The visitors were club owners, though it is unclear if they were the same Mexicans who reportedly had Newcastle on their radar in May. That was apparently the Orlegi Group, led by Alejandro Irarragorri and owners of the club Santos Laguna. At last week’s meeting, it is understood that the two businessmen revealed to Ashley a fascination with Newcastle dating back to the 2005 movie Goal!. In the film, a Mexican-born footballer called Santiago Munez is offered a trial with Newcastle and goes on to fulfil his childhood dream of playing professional football. Their chances of completing a similar fairytale on Tyneside look slim. From David Ornstein in The Athletic this morning. I reckon the Chronicle will get at least 5 pieces out of this. 'Ashley in Mexican stand off' 'Just who are the Orlegi Group' 'What exactly happened to Santiago Munez' 'The top 5 moments from Goal' 'Exclusive: The shocking age of Toon & Geordie star Matty Longstaff the year Goal came out' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The Athletic can reveal that Ashley met with two Mexican businessmen in London last week as various negotiations to end his 12-year tenure continue. Unfortunately for those hoping Newcastle will finally change hands, it was a familiar story: Ashley is said to have come across as “rude” and the conversation came to nothing. The visitors were club owners, though it is unclear if they were the same Mexicans who reportedly had Newcastle on their radar in May. That was apparently the Orlegi Group, led by Alejandro Irarragorri and owners of the club Santos Laguna. At last week’s meeting, it is understood that the two businessmen revealed to Ashley a fascination with Newcastle dating back to the 2005 movie Goal!. In the film, a Mexican-born footballer called Santiago Munez is offered a trial with Newcastle and goes on to fulfil his childhood dream of playing professional football. Their chances of completing a similar fairytale on Tyneside look slim. From David Ornstein in The Athletic this morning. I reckon the Chronicle will get at least 5 pieces out of this. 'Ashley in Mexican stand off' 'Just who are the Orlegi Group' 'What exactly happened to Santiago Munez' 'The top 5 moments from Goal' 'Exclusive: The shocking age of Toon & Geordie star Matty Longstaff the year Goal came out' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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