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Kinnear could have got a few quid more for Cabaye if he was arsed enough.

well if he understood the difference between the offer in Euros and what Mike wanted in pounds. He was sacked not long after.

 

Sure you're not thinking of Llambias?

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So safety appears to be within our reach now, and Ashley will be sitting pretty for another year. With any other owner, I would be looking forward to holding on to our best players and strengthening weak areas of the squad.

I used to enjoy the anticipation felt all transfer window, right up to the hour it closed, in case we got a spectacular signing. I used to enjoy watching the new signings gradually gel with the existing set up and improve the team.

 

The question these days, of course, is who will Mike Ashley sell in the summer?

ASM and Almiron are doing well...some profit in those for him?

Joelinton will be a keeper for a while yet, until he comes good, then it'll be bye bye striker...hello profit.

I'm surprised he hasn't flogged the better defenders yet. Perhaps speculatively bought defenders dont go up in price as much as speculatively bought forwards. Ashley must see the world like Neo sees the matrix, but as a stream of green pound signs in front of his eyes. Sport certainly doesn't come into it.

I keep telling myself not to be too negative and to look on the bright side, but I have to admit that the weekend win over Southampton really pissed me off. I honestly hoped Ashley would get a bloody nose with nufc going down this year. Winning points with spawny goals off defenders for half a season is a disgrace and any club that plays that poorly deserves to be relegated. Especially when that club has been mismanaged for years by an owner who deliberately walks a tightrope every year balancing relegation off against minimal investment and TV mega money.

Urgh, rant over. Apologies to those who still have a soul ?

 

 

 

One other thing with Ashley is that he has no idea on when to sell players. He sees an increasing value being a permanent fixture and never sees a cash out point - see Cabaye, Y and Tiote, C as examples.

 

Unless a stupid bid comes in for ASM or Miggy (£60m plus) then they will be here next year and they will either leave at the end of their contract, when we get relegated or get pushed out of the team and end up on loan in Greece

 

Disagree. He sold Carroll and Cabaye at the highest point arguably perez too. Demba Ba forced his hand with the clause in his contract.

 

Carroll was a stupid offer (as in my £60m example for ASM), Cabaye was more attractive in the summer when more clubs were after him. Perez was also a contract clause, without it he would still be here.

 

Without it the contract likely wouldn't have been signed and he would have left for next to nowt.

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Kinnear could have got a few quid more for Cabaye if he was arsed enough.

well if he understood the difference between the offer in Euros and what Mike wanted in pounds. He was sacked not long after.

 

Sure you're not thinking of Llambias?

 

It was definitely Kinnear that sold Cabaye - and the story goes MIke sacked him for getting £20m when he could/should have got £25m+

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Kinnear could have got a few quid more for Cabaye if he was arsed enough.

well if he understood the difference between the offer in Euros and what Mike wanted in pounds. He was sacked not long after.

 

Sure you're not thinking of Llambias?

 

It was definitely Kinnear that sold Cabaye - and the story goes MIke sacked him for getting £20m when he could/should have got £25m+

 

Im not sure kinnear had the  responsibility of player valuations and accepting/rejecting  offers  .

Quite funny to think if he did!

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So safety appears to be within our reach now, and Ashley will be sitting pretty for another year. With any other owner, I would be looking forward to holding on to our best players and strengthening weak areas of the squad.

I used to enjoy the anticipation felt all transfer window, right up to the hour it closed, in case we got a spectacular signing. I used to enjoy watching the new signings gradually gel with the existing set up and improve the team.

 

The question these days, of course, is who will Mike Ashley sell in the summer?

ASM and Almiron are doing well...some profit in those for him?

Joelinton will be a keeper for a while yet, until he comes good, then it'll be bye bye striker...hello profit.

I'm surprised he hasn't flogged the better defenders yet. Perhaps speculatively bought defenders dont go up in price as much as speculatively bought forwards. Ashley must see the world like Neo sees the matrix, but as a stream of green pound signs in front of his eyes. Sport certainly doesn't come into it.

I keep telling myself not to be too negative and to look on the bright side, but I have to admit that the weekend win over Southampton really pissed me off. I honestly hoped Ashley would get a bloody nose with nufc going down this year. Winning points with spawny goals off defenders for half a season is a disgrace and any club that plays that poorly deserves to be relegated. Especially when that club has been mismanaged for years by an owner who deliberately walks a tightrope every year balancing relegation off against minimal investment and TV mega money.

Urgh, rant over. Apologies to those who still have a soul ?

 

 

 

One other thing with Ashley is that he has no idea on when to sell players. He sees an increasing value being a permanent fixture and never sees a cash out point - see Cabaye, Y and Tiote, C as examples.

 

Unless a stupid bid comes in for ASM or Miggy (£60m plus) then they will be here next year and they will either leave at the end of their contract, when we get relegated or get pushed out of the team and end up on loan in Greece

 

Disagree. He sold Carroll and Cabaye at the highest point arguably perez too. Demba Ba forced his hand with the clause in his contract.

 

Carroll was a stupid offer (as in my £60m example for ASM), Cabaye was more attractive in the summer when more clubs were after him. Perez was also a contract clause, without it he would still be here.

 

Without it the contract likely wouldn't have been signed and he would have left for next to nowt.

 

Not assessing the reasoning behind the clause, (and I think we are agreeing in our posts) just saying that without the clause we keep Perez in the summer and lose him for a lot less than £30m this year or next after his form dips

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There is no way Cabaye gets sold without Ashley’s OK, for Euros or pounds. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs their head examined :lol:

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We were doing really well that season before we sold Cabaye too, definitely on course for a similar season to the 5th place season.

 

We went from looking like European contenders in the new year to a team that looked like relegation fodder in the end, with thanks a to classic Pardew capitulation too.

 

That 5th place season and first half of 2013/14 was probably as good as it’s been under Ashley (not much to shout about I know).

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Kinnear could have got a few quid more for Cabaye if he was arsed enough.

well if he understood the difference between the offer in Euros and what Mike wanted in pounds. He was sacked not long after.

 

Sure you're not thinking of Llambias?

 

It was definitely Kinnear that sold Cabaye - and the story goes MIke sacked him for getting £20m when he could/should have got £25m+

 

Aye, you're right. Llambiarse left in 2013. I just remember it being a bit of a shock that we only go £20M, knowing it was Kinnear, I'm surprised we got that much.

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We were doing really well that season before we sold Cabaye too, definitely on course for a similar season to the 5th place season.

 

We went from looking like European contenders in the new year to a team that looked like relegation fodder in the end, with thanks a to classic Pardew capitulation too.

 

That 5th place season and first half of 2013/14 was probably as good as it’s been under Ashley (not much to shout about I know).

 

Replacing Cabaye with Colback has to be the move that typifies Newcastle most. The player equivalent of going from Benitez to Bruce.

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Kinnear could have got a few quid more for Cabaye if he was arsed enough.

well if he understood the difference between the offer in Euros and what Mike wanted in pounds. He was sacked not long after.

 

Sure you're not thinking of Llambias?

 

It was definitely Kinnear that sold Cabaye - and the story goes MIke sacked him for getting £20m when he could/should have got £25m+

 

Im not sure kinnear had the  responsibility of player valuations and accepting/rejecting  offers  .

Quite funny to think if he did!

 

He definitely did, he was our Director of Football and this was his one job.

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There is no way Cabaye gets sold without Ashley’s OK, for Euros or pounds. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs their head examined :lol:

 

That's why Mike hired Kinnear as DoF, to distance himself. Then Kinnear fucked up (well, did about as well as anyone thought he would do), and was sacked shortly afterwards.

 

In the present day, it's hard to imagine Ashley not being involved in individual deals. Back then, for that period, it was different.

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There is no way Cabaye gets sold without Ashley’s OK, for Euros or pounds. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs their head examined :lol:

 

That's why Mike hired Kinnear as DoF, to distance himself. Then Kinnear fucked up (well, did about as well as anyone thought he would do), and was sacked shortly afterwards.

 

In the present day, it's hard to imagine Ashley not being involved in individual deals. Back then, for that period, it was different.

 

Yes. During that period he was prepared to trust the football experts.

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Barry Glendenning making the fantastic point on the Guardian Football Weekly podcast that the implications of empty stadiums (as a result of the Coronavirus) are now there for all fans to see. Football needs fans; just see what impact a few empty stadiums has. Sadly I doubt our sorry mob will ever see it but some might in the future, when we're back to normal and dueling with malevolent owners/ticket prices as opposed to pandemics.

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There is no way Cabaye gets sold without Ashley’s OK, for Euros or pounds. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs their head examined :lol:

 

That's why Mike hired Kinnear as DoF, to distance himself. Then Kinnear fucked up (well, did about as well as anyone thought he would do), and was sacked shortly afterwards.

 

In the present day, it's hard to imagine Ashley not being involved in individual deals. Back then, for that period, it was different.

 

Yes. During that period he was prepared to trust the football experts.

 

This made me smile for several reasons :lol:

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