LV Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Good man manager though. Knows football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I’m surprised how bad he’s been TBH, I thought he’d be able to at least make it look like he knows what he’s doing. Being totally honest I am as well. I was clinging onto the fact that he has got a number of teams promoted from the Championship and that's not easy. I thought there must be some managerial nouse in that deformed head of his but the Norwich performance killed any hope of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I just think the pressure and toxicity of the situation is going to be too much. If he arrived quietly at a small club he might be able to use his old school methods to scrape together a few points. But he’s followed a world-class tactician into one of the most difficult jobs in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I’m surprised how bad he’s been TBH, I thought he’d be able to at least make it look like he knows what he’s doing. I'm more surprised he's been able to steal a living in the game for the last 15-20 years as a manager. I never saw anything in him when Shepherd was trying to get him here as a manager other than he was a Geordie, but here he is, failing again and again, yet being hired and defended by the same old football experts. I say I'm surprised, I'm not really. There's still plenty other dinosaurs knocking about in the game, and Ashley seems to have a soft spot for most of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Winning automatic promotion from the championship becomes more difficult each year. Each year you could pick the promotion candidates fairly easy, any 2 from 5. Now it's any 2 from 10 . The quality of the relegated teams is so much higher and they come down with money to spare. The crap managers like Fat Sam, Hughes, Pardew , Pullis etc are being overlooked more and more in favour of younger coaches. I doubt Bruce could do it now against the managerial opposition out there which was proved at Villa where he had the most expensive team in the championship. I'm sure he is a nice guy but sadly he's thick and has no tactical nous whatsover and todays players soon see through that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Is this nightmare ever going to end? Trying not to care and that but f*** me it gets you down, needing my own team to get beat ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzgerald Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 It's mental isn't it. There can't be any other set of fans having to go on like this? Start of a new season hating everything to do with the club you support and wishing defeat. God I was buzzing when I see the Norwich result. Imagine any Spurs fans popping on a NUFC forum for a pre match look and we are all desperate for a Spurs win and wanting 6 or 7 nils ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Are the away fans still asking for him to "give them a wave" or has that died off already? Hopefully not. He's already shit enough, let alone being distracted to wave at them. Maybe this is the reason for the Willems/Ritchie farce? - Luke Edwards is right. It is the fans fault. ‘On ye go Jetro I want you to g- ah they’re asking for me to wave *waves* - Jetro man where the fuck you going?’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 A post on RAWK to cheer everybody up :lol: Quote from: Brian Blessed on August 18, 2019, 03:24:38 AM Bruce is about to go the way of Pardew, this is his last job in football. About fucking time. rafathegaffa83 RAWK Scribe I don't think there is a manager in the PL more heavily reliant on a chequebook than Bruce and yet he gets hired again and again. It used to be said when he first started that he had a great scouting network/contacts, which was why he could pull out a few signings above the quality expected for his clubs. But even those are few and far between and some of those players like Maguire and Robertson only flourished after moving on. What Bruce has shown throughout his career is a scattergun approach to transfers, which he won't be allowed at Newcastle. He's signed several players in the past only to cast them off six to twelve months later (Walter Pandiani, Luciano Figueroa, Marlon King). The latter almost joined Fulham prior to joining Bruce at Wigan, but Fulham were concerned about his legal history and his medical. Bruce signed him anyway for Wigan, doubled his wages and then jettisoned him on loan after 15 games before his legal troubles allowed them to cancel his contract. Then there are the terrible swaps: £4.25m + Andy Johnson for Clinton Morrison. The latter was sold back for £2m two years later, while Palace sold Johnson for £8m+ Then there are the loss making and high wage/low impact signings: - Paying £6m for Lee Cattermole - Frazier Campbell for £3.5m rising to £6m (later sold for £650,000) - Michael Turner for £5.5m (later sold for £1.5m) - Asomah Gyan for £13m (sold for £6m a year later) - Connor Wickham for £12m (sold for between £7m-£9m) - Scott Hogan for £12m (now on loan at Stoke) -Paying a combined £6.5m for John O'Shea and Wes Brown when every man and his dog knew they were finished. I also seem to recall he wanted Darron Gibson in this deal before he turned them down - Abel Hernandez for £10m (later released by Hull) - Alou Cisse for £4.5m (sold two years later for £300k) - Olivier Kapo for £3.5m (released a few seasons later) -James McFadden for £4.75m (released three years later) - Gary McSheffrey for £4m (released three years later) - Rowan Vine for £3m (sold a year later for £1m) - Walter Pandiani for £3m (sold for £1m six months later) - Luciano Figueroa for £2.5m (released four months later) - Gary O'Connor for £2.7m (released fhree years later) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Boy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 we can add Joelinton to the list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 But...but...but he's got a great track record with this signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Pretty sure I read Bruce say he's been promised Charnley and Ashley will be patient and support him. I think we'll be as good as relegated before they sack him (that's if they sack him even then). I can't imagine them replacing Bruce with an up and coming manager. We're doomed to PFM has-beens until Ashley sells NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Is this nightmare ever going to end? Trying not to care and that but f*** me it gets you down, needing my own team to get beat ffs. I know a lot of people are saying they want us to lose and get relegated in order to get rid of Ashley, and I can see the logic, but I find it very hard. When you meet friends from outside the area you end up feeling ashamed of your own club. It was on hold while Rafa was here because you could convince them he was turning things round. But Bruce...my God it's fucking embarrassing. You end up avoiding the topic of football altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Is this nightmare ever going to end? Trying not to care and that but f*** me it gets you down, needing my own team to get beat ffs. I know a lot of people are saying they want us to lose and get relegated in order to get rid of Ashley, and I can see the logic, but I find it very hard. When you meet friends from outside the area you end up feeling ashamed of your own club. It was on hold while Rafa was here because you could convince them he was turning things round. But Bruce...my God it's fucking embarrassing. You end up avoiding the topic of football altogether. Not just locals - I’ve started at a new school where all the kids want to talk about what football team I support. “Newcastle. I don’t want to talk about it.” They jeer when the Toon lose and don’t understand when I say I’m glad we lost. Doesn’t help that I’ve got a wallpaper on my work computer of Rafa and Jamaal, always up on the screen for the kids to mock. Probably should change that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Is this nightmare ever going to end? Trying not to care and that but f*** me it gets you down, needing my own team to get beat ffs. I know a lot of people are saying they want us to lose and get relegated in order to get rid of Ashley, and I can see the logic, but I find it very hard. When you meet friends from outside the area you end up feeling ashamed of your own club. It was on hold while Rafa was here because you could convince them he was turning things round. But Bruce...my God it's fucking embarrassing. You end up avoiding the topic of football altogether. Not just locals - I’ve started at a new school where all the kids want to talk about what football team I support. “Newcastle. I don’t want to talk about it.” They jeer when the Toon lose and don’t understand when I say I’m glad we lost. Doesn’t help that I’ve got a wallpaper on my work computer of Rafa and Jamaal, always up on the screen for the kids to mock. Probably should change that... Put those kids in detention. I assume they just 'support' the likes of Man City, Barcelona, etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 A post on RAWK to cheer everybody up :lol: Quote from: Brian Blessed on August 18, 2019, 03:24:38 AM Bruce is about to go the way of Pardew, this is his last job in football. About fucking time. rafathegaffa83 RAWK Scribe I don't think there is a manager in the PL more heavily reliant on a chequebook than Bruce and yet he gets hired again and again. It used to be said when he first started that he had a great scouting network/contacts, which was why he could pull out a few signings above the quality expected for his clubs. But even those are few and far between and some of those players like Maguire and Robertson only flourished after moving on. What Bruce has shown throughout his career is a scattergun approach to transfers, which he won't be allowed at Newcastle. He's signed several players in the past only to cast them off six to twelve months later (Walter Pandiani, Luciano Figueroa, Marlon King). The latter almost joined Fulham prior to joining Bruce at Wigan, but Fulham were concerned about his legal history and his medical. Bruce signed him anyway for Wigan, doubled his wages and then jettisoned him on loan after 15 games before his legal troubles allowed them to cancel his contract. Then there are the terrible swaps: £4.25m + Andy Johnson for Clinton Morrison. The latter was sold back for £2m two years later, while Palace sold Johnson for £8m+ Then there are the loss making and high wage/low impact signings: - Paying £6m for Lee Cattermole - Frazier Campbell for £3.5m rising to £6m (later sold for £650,000) - Michael Turner for £5.5m (later sold for £1.5m) - Asomah Gyan for £13m (sold for £6m a year later) - Connor Wickham for £12m (sold for between £7m-£9m) - Scott Hogan for £12m (now on loan at Stoke) -Paying a combined £6.5m for John O'Shea and Wes Brown when every man and his dog knew they were finished. I also seem to recall he wanted Darron Gibson in this deal before he turned them down - Abel Hernandez for £10m (later released by Hull) - Alou Cisse for £4.5m (sold two years later for £300k) - Olivier Kapo for £3.5m (released a few seasons later) -James McFadden for £4.75m (released three years later) - Gary McSheffrey for £4m (released three years later) - Rowan Vine for £3m (sold a year later for £1m) - Walter Pandiani for £3m (sold for £1m six months later) - Luciano Figueroa for £2.5m (released four months later) - Gary O'Connor for £2.7m (released fhree years later) As much as I agree with the general point: - Sunderland got their money back on Gyan - no idea where that figure above has come from. - John O Shea and Wes Brown were good signings for Sunderland given the length of service provided - not their fault they continued to be played four years later when they were completely finished because Sunderland didn't replace them. - Abel Hernandez was consistently Hull's best player during his time there and only left because they couldn't agree a new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Can't put a value on what a great guy he is though albeit it will be in the billions, arguably hundreds of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzgerald Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Is this nightmare ever going to end? Trying not to care and that but f*** me it gets you down, needing my own team to get beat ffs. I know a lot of people are saying they want us to lose and get relegated in order to get rid of Ashley, and I can see the logic, but I find it very hard. When you meet friends from outside the area you end up feeling ashamed of your own club. It was on hold while Rafa was here because you could convince them he was turning things round. But Bruce...my God it's f***ing embarrassing. You end up avoiding the topic of football altogether. Exactly. I just say I'm neutral. I was in a pub in Yorkshire watching the Man City v Tottenham match and someone asked me who I support and I'd have died of embarrassment saying bruceys boys. I just said nobody. I work away and can't even go home as I know my dad will be cheering Bruce on and I can't deal with it I would have to do something else then be annoyed Ashley is making me have to go out my way to avoid games. Bruce ffs utter embarrassment he's representing the club and city yet people want to give him a chance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 A post on RAWK to cheer everybody up :lol: Quote from: Brian Blessed on August 18, 2019, 03:24:38 AM Bruce is about to go the way of Pardew, this is his last job in football. About fucking time. rafathegaffa83 RAWK Scribe I don't think there is a manager in the PL more heavily reliant on a chequebook than Bruce and yet he gets hired again and again. It used to be said when he first started that he had a great scouting network/contacts, which was why he could pull out a few signings above the quality expected for his clubs. But even those are few and far between and some of those players like Maguire and Robertson only flourished after moving on. What Bruce has shown throughout his career is a scattergun approach to transfers, which he won't be allowed at Newcastle. He's signed several players in the past only to cast them off six to twelve months later (Walter Pandiani, Luciano Figueroa, Marlon King). The latter almost joined Fulham prior to joining Bruce at Wigan, but Fulham were concerned about his legal history and his medical. Bruce signed him anyway for Wigan, doubled his wages and then jettisoned him on loan after 15 games before his legal troubles allowed them to cancel his contract. Then there are the terrible swaps: £4.25m + Andy Johnson for Clinton Morrison. The latter was sold back for £2m two years later, while Palace sold Johnson for £8m+ Then there are the loss making and high wage/low impact signings: - Paying £6m for Lee Cattermole - Frazier Campbell for £3.5m rising to £6m (later sold for £650,000) - Michael Turner for £5.5m (later sold for £1.5m) - Asomah Gyan for £13m (sold for £6m a year later) - Connor Wickham for £12m (sold for between £7m-£9m) - Scott Hogan for £12m (now on loan at Stoke) -Paying a combined £6.5m for John O'Shea and Wes Brown when every man and his dog knew they were finished. I also seem to recall he wanted Darron Gibson in this deal before he turned them down - Abel Hernandez for £10m (later released by Hull) - Alou Cisse for £4.5m (sold two years later for £300k) - Olivier Kapo for £3.5m (released a few seasons later) -James McFadden for £4.75m (released three years later) - Gary McSheffrey for £4m (released three years later) - Rowan Vine for £3m (sold a year later for £1m) - Walter Pandiani for £3m (sold for £1m six months later) - Luciano Figueroa for £2.5m (released four months later) - Gary O'Connor for £2.7m (released fhree years later) As much as I agree with the general point: - Sunderland got their money back on Gyan - no idea where that figure above has come from. - John O Shea and Wes Brown were good signings for Sunderland given the length of service provided - not their fault they continued to be played four years later when they were completely finished because Sunderland didn't replace them. - Abel Hernandez was consistently Hull's best player during his time there and only left because they couldn't agree a new contract. They got money back on gyan because of the first loan fee, but the transfer fee they received the year after was just over £6m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 A post on RAWK to cheer everybody up :lol: Quote from: Brian Blessed on August 18, 2019, 03:24:38 AM Bruce is about to go the way of Pardew, this is his last job in football. About fucking time. rafathegaffa83 RAWK Scribe I don't think there is a manager in the PL more heavily reliant on a chequebook than Bruce and yet he gets hired again and again. It used to be said when he first started that he had a great scouting network/contacts, which was why he could pull out a few signings above the quality expected for his clubs. But even those are few and far between and some of those players like Maguire and Robertson only flourished after moving on. What Bruce has shown throughout his career is a scattergun approach to transfers, which he won't be allowed at Newcastle. He's signed several players in the past only to cast them off six to twelve months later (Walter Pandiani, Luciano Figueroa, Marlon King). The latter almost joined Fulham prior to joining Bruce at Wigan, but Fulham were concerned about his legal history and his medical. Bruce signed him anyway for Wigan, doubled his wages and then jettisoned him on loan after 15 games before his legal troubles allowed them to cancel his contract. Then there are the terrible swaps: £4.25m + Andy Johnson for Clinton Morrison. The latter was sold back for £2m two years later, while Palace sold Johnson for £8m+ Then there are the loss making and high wage/low impact signings: - Paying £6m for Lee Cattermole - Frazier Campbell for £3.5m rising to £6m (later sold for £650,000) - Michael Turner for £5.5m (later sold for £1.5m) - Asomah Gyan for £13m (sold for £6m a year later) - Connor Wickham for £12m (sold for between £7m-£9m) - Scott Hogan for £12m (now on loan at Stoke) -Paying a combined £6.5m for John O'Shea and Wes Brown when every man and his dog knew they were finished. I also seem to recall he wanted Darron Gibson in this deal before he turned them down - Abel Hernandez for £10m (later released by Hull) - Alou Cisse for £4.5m (sold two years later for £300k) - Olivier Kapo for £3.5m (released a few seasons later) -James McFadden for £4.75m (released three years later) - Gary McSheffrey for £4m (released three years later) - Rowan Vine for £3m (sold a year later for £1m) - Walter Pandiani for £3m (sold for £1m six months later) - Luciano Figueroa for £2.5m (released four months later) - Gary O'Connor for £2.7m (released fhree years later) As much as I agree with the general point: - Sunderland got their money back on Gyan - no idea where that figure above has come from. - John O Shea and Wes Brown were good signings for Sunderland given the length of service provided - not their fault they continued to be played four years later when they were completely finished because Sunderland didn't replace them. - Abel Hernandez was consistently Hull's best player during his time there and only left because they couldn't agree a new contract. They got money back on gyan because of the first loan fee, but the transfer fee they received the year after was just over £6m True, but the first loan fee was something like £6.5m so they were net neutral overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 A post on RAWK to cheer everybody up :lol: Quote from: Brian Blessed on August 18, 2019, 03:24:38 AM Bruce is about to go the way of Pardew, this is his last job in football. About fucking time. rafathegaffa83 RAWK Scribe I don't think there is a manager in the PL more heavily reliant on a chequebook than Bruce and yet he gets hired again and again. It used to be said when he first started that he had a great scouting network/contacts, which was why he could pull out a few signings above the quality expected for his clubs. But even those are few and far between and some of those players like Maguire and Robertson only flourished after moving on. What Bruce has shown throughout his career is a scattergun approach to transfers, which he won't be allowed at Newcastle. He's signed several players in the past only to cast them off six to twelve months later (Walter Pandiani, Luciano Figueroa, Marlon King). The latter almost joined Fulham prior to joining Bruce at Wigan, but Fulham were concerned about his legal history and his medical. Bruce signed him anyway for Wigan, doubled his wages and then jettisoned him on loan after 15 games before his legal troubles allowed them to cancel his contract. Then there are the terrible swaps: £4.25m + Andy Johnson for Clinton Morrison. The latter was sold back for £2m two years later, while Palace sold Johnson for £8m+ Then there are the loss making and high wage/low impact signings: - Paying £6m for Lee Cattermole - Frazier Campbell for £3.5m rising to £6m (later sold for £650,000) - Michael Turner for £5.5m (later sold for £1.5m) - Asomah Gyan for £13m (sold for £6m a year later) - Connor Wickham for £12m (sold for between £7m-£9m) - Scott Hogan for £12m (now on loan at Stoke) -Paying a combined £6.5m for John O'Shea and Wes Brown when every man and his dog knew they were finished. I also seem to recall he wanted Darron Gibson in this deal before he turned them down - Abel Hernandez for £10m (later released by Hull) - Alou Cisse for £4.5m (sold two years later for £300k) - Olivier Kapo for £3.5m (released a few seasons later) -James McFadden for £4.75m (released three years later) - Gary McSheffrey for £4m (released three years later) - Rowan Vine for £3m (sold a year later for £1m) - Walter Pandiani for £3m (sold for £1m six months later) - Luciano Figueroa for £2.5m (released four months later) - Gary O'Connor for £2.7m (released fhree years later) ostensibly that looks shite on paper but in fairness to the man he's been managing for 20 years now, i'm not convinced his record on transfers is demonstrably worse than others of his ilk, quite the contrary perhaps also not sure why anyone would bring up transfers wrt bruce as managers of NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Winning automatic promotion from the championship becomes more difficult each year. Each year you could pick the promotion candidates fairly easy, any 2 from 5. Now it's any 2 from 10 . The quality of the relegated teams is so much higher and they come down with money to spare. The crap managers like Fat Sam, Hughes, Pardew , Pullis etc are being overlooked more and more in favour of younger coaches. I doubt Bruce could do it now against the managerial opposition out there which was proved at Villa where he had the most expensive team in the championship. I'm sure he is a nice guy but sadly he's thick and has no tactical nous whatsover and todays players soon see through that Why do people keep saying this? Look at how he treated Sheffield Wednesday, and how he will contradict himself to suit whatever position he is in. Look at how he mocked the protest against Ashley. He seems like a c***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzgerald Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Winning automatic promotion from the championship becomes more difficult each year. Each year you could pick the promotion candidates fairly easy, any 2 from 5. Now it's any 2 from 10 . The quality of the relegated teams is so much higher and they come down with money to spare. The crap managers like Fat Sam, Hughes, Pardew , Pullis etc are being overlooked more and more in favour of younger coaches. I doubt Bruce could do it now against the managerial opposition out there which was proved at Villa where he had the most expensive team in the championship. I'm sure he is a nice guy but sadly he's thick and has no tactical nous whatsover and todays players soon see through that Why do people keep saying this? Look at how he treated Sheffield Wednesday, and how he will contradict himself to suit whatever position he is in. Look at how he mocked the protest against Ashley. He seems like a c***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 A post on RAWK to cheer everybody up :lol: Quote from: Brian Blessed on August 18, 2019, 03:24:38 AM Bruce is about to go the way of Pardew, this is his last job in football. About fucking time. rafathegaffa83 RAWK Scribe I don't think there is a manager in the PL more heavily reliant on a chequebook than Bruce and yet he gets hired again and again. It used to be said when he first started that he had a great scouting network/contacts, which was why he could pull out a few signings above the quality expected for his clubs. But even those are few and far between and some of those players like Maguire and Robertson only flourished after moving on. What Bruce has shown throughout his career is a scattergun approach to transfers, which he won't be allowed at Newcastle. He's signed several players in the past only to cast them off six to twelve months later (Walter Pandiani, Luciano Figueroa, Marlon King). The latter almost joined Fulham prior to joining Bruce at Wigan, but Fulham were concerned about his legal history and his medical. Bruce signed him anyway for Wigan, doubled his wages and then jettisoned him on loan after 15 games before his legal troubles allowed them to cancel his contract. Then there are the terrible swaps: £4.25m + Andy Johnson for Clinton Morrison. The latter was sold back for £2m two years later, while Palace sold Johnson for £8m+ Then there are the loss making and high wage/low impact signings: - Paying £6m for Lee Cattermole - Frazier Campbell for £3.5m rising to £6m (later sold for £650,000) - Michael Turner for £5.5m (later sold for £1.5m) - Asomah Gyan for £13m (sold for £6m a year later) - Connor Wickham for £12m (sold for between £7m-£9m) - Scott Hogan for £12m (now on loan at Stoke) -Paying a combined £6.5m for John O'Shea and Wes Brown when every man and his dog knew they were finished. I also seem to recall he wanted Darron Gibson in this deal before he turned them down - Abel Hernandez for £10m (later released by Hull) - Alou Cisse for £4.5m (sold two years later for £300k) - Olivier Kapo for £3.5m (released a few seasons later) -James McFadden for £4.75m (released three years later) - Gary McSheffrey for £4m (released three years later) - Rowan Vine for £3m (sold a year later for £1m) - Walter Pandiani for £3m (sold for £1m six months later) - Luciano Figueroa for £2.5m (released four months later) - Gary O'Connor for £2.7m (released fhree years later) ostensibly that looks shite on paper but in fairness to the man he's been managing for 20 years now, i'm not convinced his record on transfers is demonstrably worse than others of his ilk, quite the contrary perhaps also not sure why anyone would bring up transfers wrt bruce as managers of NUFC Aye, pointing out his success or failure in the transfer market at other clubs is a bit daft like. This is a job for a tactician and someone who can coach at the highest level. Bruce has got a lot more high value players to work with than the likes of the Norwich manager for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johneddy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Why is this man even managing ANY prem club as a total and complete proven failure...we shouldn't even be discussing a tool like this in 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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