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Also why all the hatred?

 

 

Exactly.

But why does that lead to such levels hatred and hostility? Does Lascelles get the same? He’s talking about his boss. I personally don’t really care. It’s not a disgraceful and insulting thing to the fans etc. I’d rather he didn’t say that, but stuff like that still gets blown out of proportion. If someone is not a fan of the bloke anyway then people will react worse to fairly harmless stuff.

 

I guess it's because we fans have been living Ashley for over a decade and he swans in for a few months and makes stupid general comments based on his limited experience. It's a little condescending really.

 

Lascelles took an absolute caning on here to be fair. As has Shola etc - it's not an agenda against Bruce in that regard.

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Also why all the hatred?

 

 

Exactly.

But why does that lead to such levels hatred and hostility? Does Lascelles get the same? He’s talking about his boss. I personally don’t really care. It’s not a disgraceful and insulting thing to the fans etc. I’d rather he didn’t say that, but stuff like that still gets blown out of proportion. If someone is not a fan of the bloke anyway then people will react worse to fairly harmless stuff.

 

Yep, he's a condescending arsehole only in it for himself.

 

Tsunami[/member] I do genuinely respect what you are saying about looking upon a given situation objectively and without pre-existing bias or agenda. I think if I could do that I'd still be a fan who celebrated goals and what-have-you. But I can't get there myself; every time I look at the bloke he makes my skin crawl. I tried again to give him the benefit of the doubt and decided to watch his NUFCTV post match interview this morning; literally after his first word I thought "what a smug, irritating individual you are."

 

I can't abide the bloke and will confess that I might be irrational from time to time. Which I'm sure is a delight for others to read.

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I really wouldn’t bother with him. If you don’t get it by now you’re a wum or incapable of understanding truth

 

Whilst I don’t agree with his opinion, that’s a fairly shit post like.

 

He’s made his opinion, put forward his thoughts and reasons for it and is entitled to to have it. A forum is for discussion and undoubtedly there will be differing opinions.

 

Posts like this just put off new members from signing up and/or posting. New members on here regularly comment  that they get shit for not falling in line with the general consensus with the ‘old guard’ on here, sort of proves their point.

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That’s fair enough Yorkie; his faux Geordieness does my napper in. He’s here, he’ll not be here that long and he’s got better results and brought better players in than I thought he would. I can’t get away with those slagging him off for his face, weight, pasties etc. His disingenuous is free game however.

 

I’m still clinging to the hope that the takeover is still possible and someone somewhere is showing the govt what they could have won. They really need a bit of sovereign wealth to come in and invest where they won’t.

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Also why all the hatred?

 

 

Exactly.

But why does that lead to such levels hatred and hostility? Does Lascelles get the same? He’s talking about his boss. I personally don’t really care. It’s not a disgraceful and insulting thing to the fans etc. I’d rather he didn’t say that, but stuff like that still gets blown out of proportion. If someone is not a fan of the bloke anyway then people will react worse to fairly harmless stuff.

 

It's absolutely not harmless stuff for Bruce to say that about the parasite who has taken the club irrecoverably backwards during the time he has owned it.

 

And his motivation for saying that makes it worse - he's kissing his boss's arse to cement his own position. He doesn't give the first shit about NUFC, never has and pretends like he does now it suits him.

 

He's a prick and a snake who should never have been in our dugout. And he's shit.

 

:thup: Exactly this.

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That’s fair enough Yorkie; his faux Geordieness does my napper in. He’s here, he’ll not be here that long and he’s got better results and brought better players in than I thought he would. I can’t get away with those slagging him off for his face, weight, pasties etc. His disingenuous is free game however.

 

I’m still clinging to the hope that the takeover is still possible and someone somewhere is showing the govt what they could have won. They really need a bit of sovereign wealth to come in and invest where they won’t.

I couldn't care less about his appearance or weight etc.  I just absolutely know that he is a dreadful manager/coach.

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I really wouldn’t bother with him. If you don’t get it by now you’re a wum or incapable of understanding truth

What a ridiculous post. I’ve made some perfectly reasonable points I appreciate not everyone will agree with and all you can say is I ‘don’t get it’ and must be a ‘win’ or ‘incapable of understanding the truth’. Thanks for showing me why I’m wrong.

 

I don’t think Steve Bruce should ‘f**k off’ and am really upset because he’s kissing his boss’s arse. I just don’t care. I don’t rate him as a manager or admire him as a bloke but he hasn’t done horrible things here and I’m happy to praise him if things go well. Sorry that’s not acceptable here.

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Bruce did well yesterday tbf, he made a point before the game that Carroll would be as important in defence as up front with West Ham being a big side physically, and that turned out to be right. Didn't think he got much wrong yesterday, went with two up front which a few were complaining about prior to the game and it worked okay in this game.

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I would fully expect Bruce to continue sucking up to MA, because he knows it's the only chance he has of getting to have any say in players coming in or anything else for that matter.

 

Might as well get used to it, because it won't ever stop.

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For whatever reason Ashley was determined that the Joelinton deal was done. He made it known that he put his “own” money in for it. Rafa didn’t think he was worth what we paid but had he stayed the deal would have still happened. Bruce cottened on quickly that Joelinton didn’t have the tools to be a centre forward, his early interviews make that clear.

 

We need to judge Bruce on what he does not what Rafa might have done. Rafa bought Joselu, loaned Atsu and then unbelievably bought him and also spent £14M on Murphy. Yes, that’s a lot to do with Ashley but let’s not pretend it’s perfect. Bruce might have hit lucky with who has become available at Mike’s price point and need to stay up but for £35M he’s picked up Wilson, Lewis, Hendrick and Fraser for the price of Almiron and Murphy.

 

It’s possible to make arguments to fit most agendas, I’m gonna try and not view Bruce as the phoney Geordie and instead look at results, organisation and team spirit and see what happens. I’ll give him 2 seasons.

 

I don't think he did, he stated he was prepared to (because unreasonable Rafa thought the clubs money would be better spent elsewhere - as has been proven to be the case).

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i detest bruce, but tbf he knows that sucking up to ashley is the only way he may get a few more quid to spend.

i'd love him come out and complain about the lack of funds and support but it would only end up backfiring.

he's managed to get £20m more out of the FCB than i ever thought he would.

doesnt make him a good coach or any more likeable to me but it makes sense and is the right thing to do in the current situation.

we know ashley is a man-child.

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You know it could be as simple as two fat blokes get along.

 

They both absolutely love money, are huge narcissists, and have zero morals so I wouldn’t be surprised.

 

This.

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