AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 His current collapse is kind of what I expected when he first arrived TBH. In a way he’s done well to postpone it to the second season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 The only thing that saved him last season was falling back on the still stable defensive structure of the 3-4-3 we had played under Rafa. As he played this system against all sides in the division. He completely ruined its effectiveness going forward, but the players that setup that way were still in place and pretty much still had the discipline to defend in that system. He's now changed a bunch of players and is apparently introducing his front foot 4-4-2, while only then playing the 3-4-3 against the 'big boys' as he put it It's all going to fall to pieces, because his 4-4-2 is still just as bad going forward, and is catastrophically open at the back. Let the chaos ensue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 We're rapidly approaching SackBruce.com territory here like. The difference with SackPardew was that it was based on the idea that if we got rid of Pardew: who knew, maybe there'd be a Rafa around the corner? I.e., it would actually be worth our collective time and effort getting such a movement going in the hope that things might improve. The playing field has changed a lot since then and we already know that, even if a Rafa did come along, it's a waste of time anyway. So I definitely can't be arsed revolting against Bruce. What would be the point? Whilst there's still some hope in a takeover - which I still think will happen sooner rather than later, even if we're talking 12-18 months - Bruce is perfect. I don't want to pretend that the club is worth supporting until it actually is. Just keep the club on life support until the massive multi-organ transplant arrives. If we're just comparing the two here, then yeah, he's been reminiscent of Pards in all sorts of ways since he first arrived. Not least because he's A, a shit manager and B, a wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 He’s very similar to Pardew in terms of ability. Both rely heavily on having a match winner to paper over their deficiencies. That bit of magic that fools the lazy media, who then conveniently forget the previous 89 minutes. He claims it takes time, it only took Potter last pre season to get Brighton playing a certain way. He’s now refined it further as a good manager would do. This only ends one way, I suspect after the initial enjoyment of not having Rafa’s disciplined approach, players are now realising he hasn’t got a clue and have lost all respect. I suspect we’ll start to really see that with St Max and Almiron, the body language with these 2 is already starting to show tell tale signs. It’ll be a long process under Ashley though for his demise, only a seriously bad run will see his job under threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 So I definitely can't be arsed revolting against Bruce. What would be the point? Spite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Could have sworn in the first half of the Spurs game Hayden (again) was saying to Bruce it wasn't working and Bruce said something along the lines of we'll look at it at half time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Wasn't Hayden one of those that found Rafa a bit much? Hope he's enjoying himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 What was that conference which all the top managers go to, that Rafa was involved in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 What was that conference which all the top managers go to, that Rafa was involved in? UEFA Elite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Must agree I can’t be arsed with a bruceout campaign, he will bring about his own down fall. For the greater good let him implode The bloke has some luck mind . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 The way he presents Rafa and his imprint on the team is fucking scandalous tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 He's an absolute melt like. Once upon a time I'd have been fully behind a sack Bruce campaign, bit honestly who cares anymore? Until big Mike leaves we'll only end up with another jobber who has zero self respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 He’s very similar to Pardew in terms of ability. Both rely heavily on having a match winner to paper over their deficiencies. That bit of magic that fools the lazy media, who then conveniently forget the previous 89 minutes. He claims it takes time, it only took Potter last pre season to get Brighton playing a certain way. He’s now refined it further as a good manager would do. This only ends one way, I suspect after the initial enjoyment of not having Rafa’s disciplined approach, players are now realising he hasn’t got a clue and have lost all respect. I suspect we’ll start to really see that with St Max and Almiron, the body language with these 2 is already starting to show tell tale signs. It’ll be a long process under Ashley though for his demise, only a seriously bad run will see his job under threat. I think he's greatly inferior to Pardew. Pardew had some nice set pieces and had the team playing some nice stuff until he, for some reason, started playing scared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 "Some online say he gets an easy ride in press conferences but that misses the point. He is challenged but you're not there to be Jeremy Paxman, dangling the sword of truth over the Head Coach and coming out with some sort of victory on behalf of supporters. They get testy, some of those press calls. I can remember a back and forth with Paolo Di Canio and I was there when Joe Kinnear exploded in his first stint at Newcastle. My personal high (or low) light was being the only Newcastle-centric reporter in Alan Pardew's post-match press conference after United's 3-1 defeat at Stevenage in 2011. While the national lads were happy to absorb platitudes about it being a difficult night, I had the back page of the Sunday Sun to fill and knew fans would be as angry about United's worst FA Cup performance since Hereford. " From Mark Douglas' new email newsletter, explaining that journos don't give him an easy ride. Apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 What was that conference which all the top managers go to, that Rafa was involved in? UEFA Elite? Ta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nbthree3 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 "I've been going 20-odd years and I look at the clubs I've managed - Sunderland, Hull, Birmingham - and think they were in a far healthier state than they are now. "To say that I'm lucky, I just find it a little bit insulting but I'll keep trying to try and improve us, try and get better and try and make us play better and that will take a bit of time unfortunately because we're trying to implement change. "So all of a sudden we have to think we're Liverpool, do we? The style is we've gone from a back five to a back four," he said. "Hang on a minute, we've only lost one out of six. We've won four," he added. "We're trying to change something a little bit to try and go with a back four if we can. "Now I'm lucky, am I? Lucky? Wow. I just find it frustrating and deeply disappointing because this thing of direction or a lack of tactics...what do you not understand? "If you watched us, I grant you, we have not played well enough. But we've played with one up and one off the front and a back four now in six of the seven games and we did it out of lockdown as well apart from the last two or three games when we went to a back three against Tottenham and Liverpool. What do we not understand? "So I'm going to question you lot to say: 'Do you not understand what we're trying to do?' You can tell the supporters and explain to them. I find it the frustrating part. Where has that come from all of a sudden?" Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 fucking brilliant. no class, humility, or self awareness at all. shame he couldn't have picked up the positive footballing knowledge from Fergie at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Loooool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Can't wait for the meltdown when he actually starts getting properly criticised Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 He's getting close to be close to Pardew levels of hate like, utter cheese grater. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Fantastic, starting to have a pop at the supporters as if they dont know what they're talking about. He's going to blow soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Good God almighty. He has pressed the self-destruct button under childish mild criticism without any fans being anywhere near to the awful football he has us playing. For once, no one can say Newcastle fans drove the manager out of the door. He ran it down himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 What a snowflake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 "I've been going 20-odd years and I look at the clubs I've managed - Sunderland, Hull, Birmingham - and think they were in a far healthier state than they are now. "To say that I'm lucky, I just find it a little bit insulting but I'll keep trying to try and improve us, try and get better and try and make us play better and that will take a bit of time unfortunately because we're trying to implement change. "So all of a sudden we have to think we're Liverpool, do we? The style is we've gone from a back five to a back four," he said. "Hang on a minute, we've only lost one out of six. We've won four," he added. "We're trying to change something a little bit to try and go with a back four if we can. "Now I'm lucky, am I? Lucky? Wow. I just find it frustrating and deeply disappointing because this thing of direction or a lack of tactics...what do you not understand? "If you watched us, I grant you, we have not played well enough. But we've played with one up and one off the front and a back four now in six of the seven games and we did it out of lockdown as well apart from the last two or three games when we went to a back three against Tottenham and Liverpool. What do we not understand? "So I'm going to question you lot to say: 'Do you not understand what we're trying to do?' You can tell the supporters and explain to them. I find it the frustrating part. Where has that come from all of a sudden?" Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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