Dan Gleebals Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 You don’t need an analyst, could not be clearer what the issues are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I think Mike Ashley knows how bad he is, he probably just hopes it can not be his problem. Bruce's contract is actually a good indication of whether he still thinks it can get sold I reckon. He's coming up to halfway through a 3 three year deal, and there's been not even the slightest press reports of a new contract for him. If they start appearing, that's a good sign we're stuck with Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I’m still annoyed at how utterly ridiculous yesterday was from the team sheet onwards. There’s no prospect of him being sacked or him walking away. We’re in Pardew territory again but I don’t think any club will be stupid enough to pay for him. We’ll sleepwalk into relegation this year despite the squad improvement from last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Shearer was pretty damning, though could tell he was softening the delivery of it and don't think he mentioned Bruce at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 "We were in it until the 85th min" Only because they missed a pen and scored our goal for us. You're being a bit harsh there. Weirdly, we were still in it at that point. We were creating the occasional decent chance eg when De Gea saved from Wilson. I didn't think it was a pen. I can accept players going to ground when they've been impeded in getting the ball by some slight push or whatever that deliberately throws them off balance. But Lewis was withdrawing his foot and the contact had no impact on the situation. The own goal was created by us putting pressure on their defence through a good counter attack. Ultimately, they were the better side with better players, and we're a very boring team to watch. We've seen games like that countless times. It boils down to whether you think a different manager could get better results from our current squad. I'm not convinced of that. We still have the glaring problem of a lack of pace and technique in central midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Heaviest home defeat in 6 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I love the term ‘we’ here, is this the same medical staff who worked under Rafa ? If so they have certainly changed their way of doing things. "Unfortunately, he nicked a hamstring just before half time,” said Bruce. “We thought he was going to be OK, but he clearly wasn’t.” I'm baffled by this turn of phrase. 'Tweaked' his hamstring, surely? You 'nick' your finger cutting something with a knife, for example. Or he actually means Hayden was away stealing a hamstring. No wonder we were getting overran if so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 It boils down to whether you think a different manager could get better results from our current squad. I'm not convinced of that. I mean I've read some shit on this site but this takes the fucking cake. The balloon we have now replaced a manager that got more out of a worse group of players. Carlo has turned up at Everton and while they've spent you could see he was better than what went before him the moment he turned up. Mourinho is turning it around at Spurs. If you honestly think another manager couldn't get more from this group of players I don't think you understand football tbph. Don't mean that to sound nasty or anything it's just the only conclusion I can reach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Yeah that's a mad statement by Cronky. Nearly every other manager in the league could get better use of this squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 That’s normally a line used to push the blame back at Ashley, which is fair do, but I’d take every other manager in the Premier League (and a few from the Championship) over Bruce and have confidence we’d be better on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I love the term ‘we’ here, is this the same medical staff who worked under Rafa ? If so they have certainly changed their way of doing things. "Unfortunately, he nicked a hamstring just before half time,” said Bruce. “We thought he was going to be OK, but he clearly wasn’t.” No idea who nicked their hamstring in that incident, but it was clear as day that Darlow had groin problems in the second half and he wasn't hiding it. I can only assume Gillespie must be catastrophically shite that Bruce wasn't willing to use him as one of his substitutes. In which case why even have him on the bench? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 "We were in it until the 85th min" Only because they missed a pen and scored our goal for us. You're being a bit harsh there. Weirdly, we were still in it at that point. We were creating the occasional decent chance eg when De Gea saved from Wilson. I didn't think it was a pen. I can accept players going to ground when they've been impeded in getting the ball by some slight push or whatever that deliberately throws them off balance. But Lewis was withdrawing his foot and the contact had no impact on the situation. The own goal was created by us putting pressure on their defence through a good counter attack. Ultimately, they were the better side with better players, and we're a very boring team to watch. We've seen games like that countless times. It boils down to whether you think a different manager could get better results from our current squad. I'm not convinced of that. We still have the glaring problem of a lack of pace and technique in central midfield. Pace and technique in central midfield doesn't come cheap. Well it can do, but not at under 25 yrs old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 https://twitter.com/MoneyMikeAshley/status/1317767057174372354?s=19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 This fat sack of crap still our manager this morning then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 It’s pointless even discussing it but I’d like to see what Howe could do with our forward players. Just don’t let him sign his own players and he should be fine. He can’t be worse than Bruce that’s for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Don't really get the clamour for Howe personally. Can see him getting a 'big' job and exposing himself as the lower league manager who did an unbelievable job with a club where he was very much woven into the fabric. Hope Bruce goes absolutely nowhere until the takeover is completed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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St1pe Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I don’t think he’ll ever be a top manager like was suggested for a while but he’d almost certainly provide better football than what we’ve got. I also think any takeover will only happen if we’re a Premier League club and I just don’t see us keep dodging that bullet under Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Conversation Alex Hurst @tfalex1892 In 8 selected games #nufc games this year we have allowed 186 shots on our goal Chelsea (19) Everton (15) Norwich (18) Arsenal (15) Palace (18) Man C (23) Spurs (23) Man Utd (28) It isn’t working Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 The blokes a fucking genius man leave him alone . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marki Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 The fact he also sent Hayden out for the 2nd half after injuring his hamstring was another master stroke. Not only does he not have any concept of tactics, the mismanagement of injuries at every club he’s been to is testament to his general incompetence. The most damning statistic for me however is 10 times now in his 43 games we have lost by 3 goals or more. This was a team well drilled who rarely lost by more than 1 goal to even the top clubs. This nonsense that he is trying to change our style needs put to bed, he doesn’t have any style of play and he f***ing knows it. spot on , he,s just bluffing it from week to week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 The loss of Hayden will really show how bad our midfield is and how he's unable to do anything about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 To be fair no club in their right mind goes from Rafa to Steve Bruce. The club is a joke. Even worse when you consider WE LET Rafa go. We didn't sack him. He didn't quit. We let him go for having too much ambition. It's an absolute disgraceful how there was little back lash from both our fans the media to this. Instead we've had to listen to how much of a lovely bloke Bruce is and how much better the football is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 The loss of Hayden will really show how bad our midfield is and how he's unable to do anything about it. Yep, I can’t even predict how he’ll compensate for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 The loss of Hayden will really show how bad our midfield is and how he's unable to do anything about it. Get ready for the Jeff and Jonjo masterclass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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