Robster Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Sums him up perfectly. I have no problem with his affinity to Manchester United but he has absolutely zero connection with NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Man has different opinion in football. front page news. Following him around asking for an update on his opinion is a bit bizarre like. Very bizarre. Last season I was okay with Bruce, because I thought staying up was key for the takeover. For one season, it was fine. I have said several times he can't progress us forward, and I worry about this season but I have got several posters constantly following me around or mentioning my name, and asking me about Bruce. It's weird. Saying Ferguson wouldn't be a good manager nowadays is a ludicrous statement. It shows a basic lack of understanding about football. Not even up for debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Man has different opinion in football. front page news. Following him around asking for an update on his opinion is a bit bizarre like. Very bizarre. Last season I was okay with Bruce, because I thought staying up was key for the takeover. For one season, it was fine. I have said several times he can't progress us forward, and I worry about this season but I have got several posters constantly following me around or mentioning my name, and asking me about Bruce. It's weird. Saying Ferguson wouldn't be a good manager nowadays is a ludicrous statement. It shows a basic lack of understanding about football. Not even up for debate. see. it's getting so bad, even Brucey is pretending he's not actually Steve Bruce. we know who you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Sums him up perfectly. I have no problem with his affinity to Manchester United but he has absolutely zero connection with NUFC. Something he freely admitted to until it was good for his career to act otherwise. What a wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie john Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Isn't it significant that not a single player under Ferguson has become a successful manager? Roy Keene? Bully Beckam? - no Scholes? no Giggs? Hardly Bruce? Don't make me laugh! Or am I missing somebody? Good or even great players do not make good or great managers.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 We have some really stupid posters on this board. Jesus Christ. Bit harsh just because someone has an opinion, regardless of how wrong you think they are. Alas, Samptime doesn’t do decency and decorum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 He hasn’t improved one single player, that’s his job. Shit manager , is and always will be, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Stupid bastards. Hello mate, did you enjoy your holiday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Man Utd through and through is Brucie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Sir Alex finished his career at the very top. Age (health) likely the only things stopping him. Brilliant manager and always surrounded himself with the right backroom team to get it done. As much as I wish we got the better of him in the Keegan days and SBR days, he was always equipped with deeper pockets and/or the more experienced player or two to finish the job. He'd be one of the top today IMO - the amount of shite coaches out there is astonishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 It shows a basic lack of understanding about football. Not even up for debate. I find this an interesting comment because if you want to accuse someone of that, I would have to argue that it's possible that you yourself are guilty of this. You maintained last season that 'Bruce was doing ok'. I think many people would say that what happened last season was in spite of Bruce and not because of him. That's gleaned from many years of watching football (and personal experience with Pardew) Some people might say that that shows a basic lack of understanding of football from you. Others would say it's your opinion. If you don't agree with someone's opinion, give them a counter argument, don't belittle them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Imagine the week of the takeover. Richest club in the world, Bruce binned off, Keys losing the run of himself all over Twitter. All the wankers who want to see one of their own in these kinds of jobs crying on Sky and BT. Fucking glorious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 https://twitter.com/moneymikeashley/status/1318573524873842690?s=21 Couldn't even be arsed to listen to him. I was just so taken in by Kenny looking like an awkward schoolchild through that whole clip. Gormless grin n'all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 It shows a basic lack of understanding about football. Not even up for debate. I find this an interesting comment because if you want to accuse someone of that, I would have to argue that it's possible that you yourself are guilty of this. You maintained last season that 'Bruce was doing ok'. I think many people would say that what happened last season was in spite of Bruce and not because of him. That's gleaned from many years of watching football (and personal experience with Pardew) Some people might say that that shows a basic lack of understanding of football from you. Others would say it's your opinion. If you don't agree with someone's opinion, give them a counter argument, don't belittle them. Absolutely brilliantly put. I only wish that I could of published those words so eloquently because I so much struggle with what Samp is on about. He deserves every bit of criticism that comes his way after the pathetic defence of Bruce last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 It shows a basic lack of understanding about football. Not even up for debate. I find this an interesting comment because if you want to accuse someone of that, I would have to argue that it's possible that you yourself are guilty of this. You maintained last season that 'Bruce was doing ok'. I think many people would say that what happened last season was in spite of Bruce and not because of him. That's gleaned from many years of watching football (and personal experience with Pardew) Some people might say that that shows a basic lack of understanding of football from you. Others would say it's your opinion. If you don't agree with someone's opinion, give them a counter argument, don't belittle them. Absolutely brilliantly put. I only wish that I could of published those words so eloquently because I so much struggle with what Samp is on about. He deserves every bit of criticism that comes his way after the pathetic defence of Bruce last season. Well the thing is, when a new manager comes in. That first season the team is still pretty much the basis of the side a previous manager had built, ie Rafa. Let’s just say 60% of the organisational skills he drilled into them. 20% Bruce trying to play some sort of other way and the other 20% was luck that Rafa never seemed to have. Luck runs out eventually. The organisational part of things has probably whittled down to 30% now, they are forgetting what they learned quite quickly at this point. And the rest is Bruce-ball He’s popular with some of the players because he’s a soft touch. Training is easier, they get more days off. Their diets are probably worse. Complacency is what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 The deluded daft shite probably thinks the Newcastle job will be a stepping stone to his dream job at Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 It shows a basic lack of understanding about football. Not even up for debate. I find this an interesting comment because if you want to accuse someone of that, I would have to argue that it's possible that you yourself are guilty of this. You maintained last season that 'Bruce was doing ok'. I think many people would say that what happened last season was in spite of Bruce and not because of him. That's gleaned from many years of watching football (and personal experience with Pardew) Some people might say that that shows a basic lack of understanding of football from you. Others would say it's your opinion. If you don't agree with someone's opinion, give them a counter argument, don't belittle them. Absolutely brilliantly put. I only wish that I could of published those words so eloquently because I so much struggle with what Samp is on about. He deserves every bit of criticism that comes his way after the pathetic defence of Bruce last season. Saying Bruce did okay last season is not a pathetic defence of Bruce. Think it's likely he will be sacked this season and he clearly isn't the man to progress the club or the players. I don't hate Bruce. Some do. Fine. People can think what they want. But the consistent "hey samptime29[/member] is Bruce doing okay?" in several threads is a bit sad and weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Are you willing to enter into a debate on here about him though, as I have a question. You constantly say that he isn't the man to progress the club or the players, but some might say that he's actually taken the club and majority of players backwards. Do you disagree with that? The reason you get called up on it is that there aren't exactly many Bruce supporters on here to have the conversation with, and it's interesting to know what some people are seeing in him that the majority can't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Isn't it significant that not a single player under Ferguson has become a successful manager? Roy Keene? Bully Beckam? - no Scholes? no Giggs? Hardly Bruce? Don't make me laugh! Or am I missing somebody? Good or even great players do not make good or great managers.... Ole? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Isn't it significant that not a single player under Ferguson has become a successful manager? Roy Keene? Bully Beckam? - no Scholes? no Giggs? Hardly Bruce? Don't make me laugh! Or am I missing somebody? Good or even great players do not make good or great managers.... Keegan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie john Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Isn't it significant that not a single player under Ferguson has become a successful manager? Roy Keene? Bully Beckam? - no Scholes? no Giggs? Hardly Bruce? Don't make me laugh! Or am I missing somebody? Good or even great players do not make good or great managers.... Ole? Ole? I rest my case.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie john Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Isn't it significant that not a single player under Ferguson has become a successful manager? Roy Keene? Bully Beckam? - no Scholes? no Giggs? Hardly Bruce? Don't make me laugh! Or am I missing somebody? Good or even great players do not make good or great managers.... Keegan? I stand corrected on this. I think he's very much the exception that proves the rule though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Isn't it significant that not a single player under Ferguson has become a successful manager? Roy Keene? Bully Beckam? - no Scholes? no Giggs? Hardly Bruce? Don't make me laugh! Or am I missing somebody? Good or even great players do not make good or great managers.... Keegan? I stand corrected on this. I think he's very much the exception that proves the rule though... Zidane, Guardiola and Conte are others that quickly come to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Got me curious so I had a Google and there's a fairly recent article that puts Blanc 1st and Strachan 2nd in managers who have played under Ferguson: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-utd-alex-ferguson-managers-18196690. Not a particularly glowing list if Keane sneaks in at tenth. Would love to see someone do a full analysis of managers and their level of playing experience tbh. I'm inclined to say if you looked across the board there wouldn't be much of a correlation either way but would be interesting to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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