Optimistic Nut Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 If there weren’t 4 horrendous teams at the bottom, I think he would be under threat. If one or two of those four turn it around then I think Ashley might sack him. As long as they continue to struggle he’ll be safe as houses though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Knew Pardews career would dither away after he left here. Bruce will be exactly the same. As managers they just don't have the ability to turn a club around long term and eventually will slip away to non existence. I honestly believe there are better tactical minds in non league football who will never ever get the chances Bruce gets just because they haven't made it to the top level as players. Bruce's management career is based solely on his name as a player and because he played under one of the best managers in the history of football. He has absolutely no credentials in his management career that stand out and make people think, "wow he can really do wonders for our football club" Except Ashley of course, but somehow Bruce is even fucking that up, just like Pardew did, because that's how bad they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Fully expecting Allardyce to be back in just before Xmas. Would round off the shittiest of years quite appropriately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 McClaren was similar level to those two but I don’t hold the same hatred for him. He was just hopeless, Pardew & Bruce are twats. This is the problem when appointing grossly incompetent managers which end up costing you more in the long term. They each know they won’t get a better gig than this job, so when it invariably starts going tits up they each hang around like a stinking turd that won’t flush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Fully expecting Allardyce to be back in just before Xmas. Would round off the shittiest of years quite appropriately. Good lord. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 mcclaren would have been fine here as a first team coach rather than a manager, with someone else in that role. bruce shouldnt be anyway near professional footballers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 At least McClaren has had some success in his managerial career. Bruce’s greatest achievement is finishing 2nd in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 At least McClaren has had some success in his managerial career. Bruce’s greatest achievement is finishing 2nd in the Championship. yeah but as he said a couple of weeks ago - all his previous clubs are now in much worse situations than when he was there. couldnt make it up ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 He also seemed to have an idea of what he wanted, he was just shit at it. I remember being pretty optimistic after we drew 2-2 with a good Southampton team because of the football we played. With hindsight, a midfield pair of Wijnaldum & Sissoko with Perez & Thauvin either side of Mitrovic could have been effective rather than Anita & Jack fucking Colback until Shelvey arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 At least McClaren has had some success in his managerial career. Bruce’s greatest achievement is finishing 2nd in the Championship. yeah but as he said a couple of weeks ago - all his previous clubs are now in much worse situations than when he was there. couldnt make it up ffs. It’s not even true. Sheff Utd, Huddersfield and Crystal Palace are all in better situations then when he was there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 And Villa of course went from mid-table in The Championship to going up. He had an attack of Grealish, Bolasie & Abraham at that level and still fucked it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 He also seemed to have an idea of what he wanted, he was just s*** at it. I remember being pretty optimistic after we drew 2-2 with a good Southampton team because of the football we played. With hindsight, a midfield pair of Wijnaldum & Sissoko with Perez & Thauvin either side of Mitrovic could have been effective rather than Anita & Jack f***ing Colback until Shelvey arrived. Yeah, we were passing it around and it was clear he wanted to play that way. We also had some decent results and performances under him early on- the 6-2 win over Norwich being one, 2-0 win over Liverpool, beating Chelsea etc. It went to shit after Christmas though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 that's what i mean. the more he opens his mouth, the more of an idiot he makes of himself. unfortunately the vast majority of the media/journalists (other than Hope and Gibbo) seem to be unable or unwilling to pick him up on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Think Mcclarens problem was he didn’t quite have the respect of the players. There was a story about wanting the team to go for a walk on the way back from an away game, and no one listened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 He also seemed to have an idea of what he wanted, he was just s*** at it. I remember being pretty optimistic after we drew 2-2 with a good Southampton team because of the football we played. With hindsight, a midfield pair of Wijnaldum & Sissoko with Perez & Thauvin either side of Mitrovic could have been effective rather than Anita & Jack f***ing Colback until Shelvey arrived. Yeah, we were passing it around and it was clear he wanted to play that way. We also had some decent results and performances under him early on- the 6-2 win over Norwich being one, 2-0 win over Liverpool, beating Chelsea etc. It went to shit after Christmas though It looked like we might have a chance when he signed Shelvey & Townsend. Shelvey’s diagonal balls to Janmaat on the overlap with Gini arriving into the box looked canny a few games but he wasn’t good enough. Still wonder where we’d have been now had Benitez managed to keep us up. I still think we’d have sold Sissoko & Wijnaldum but £60m or so to spend on some Premier League players rather than a Championship rebuild, and who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 that's what i mean. the more he opens his mouth, the more of an idiot he makes of himself. unfortunately the vast majority of the media/journalists (other than Hope and Gibbo) seem to be unable or unwilling to pick him up on it. Bruce's limitations are not part of any narrative that promotes the PL. He's a PL winner that went on to have a successful career as a PL manager, taking control of over 400 [who checks?] PL games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Think Mcclarens problem was he didn’t quite have the respect of the players. There was a story about wanting the team to go for a walk on the way back from an away game, and no one listened. It’s true (the no respect from the players). They were on their way to an away game early on, they stopped off at a services and told the players to stretch their legs etc. none of them left the coach Sissoko was a big character in the dressing room and he had no respect for him. Sissoko’s performance in his final game was embarrassing, never seen someone give so little effort before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 You could see from the Spurs documentary how big Sissoko is within the group so that’s not surprising. He’s almost like the glue between the foreign players and English players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Anyway it seems like people are now turning against Bruce. Be interesting to seehow nasty it might get for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 He’s lucky there’s no fans in the grounds. Think even the fairly passive nature of the majority who still attended would be turning on him now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 “The most worrying statistic is the number of shots Newcastle are allowing on their goal, which could suggest a problem with the midfield balance. Newcastle United currently allowing shots at a rate of 17.2, after Saturday's defeat to Manchester United. The last Premier League team to surpass that over a season was Sunderland in 2016/17, who were relegated as the division's bottom club and conceded 69 goals in the process, an average of almost two per match.” Chron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Howay man give him a chance. Nobody could possibly have seen this coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Compare Bruce to this guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 28 shots at our goal at home, on average a shot every 3 and a half minutes, against a struggling team that had 4-5 of their first team out or on the bench, that’s truly appalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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