Joelinton

[RodneyCisse]

Joe driving at that time probably in a G wagon or something was always going to be a target to be pulled over.

[Theregulars]

16 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

Not knowing the law is not an accepted excuse for breaking it. In the legal sense, I mean.

 

It never ceases to amaze me how stupid footballers can sometimes be.

For sure, and he’ll be punished. But my point is before everyone starts saying what a terrible human being he is and how he should be put in a kennel wearing nothing but a torn kilt while everyone throws rocks at him, sometimes it’s useful to provide some context (or, in this case, hypothetical context). 
 

He has made a mistake. It may be a slight mistake or a big mistake depending on circumstances that we don’t know. It’s just tiresome that we always have to have the conclusion and judgment like a downloadable iTunes song in 30 seconds. 
 

I’ll support him because I don’t think he’s a bad person. Im biased because he’s a Newcastle player.

[mighty__mag]

The one thing that annoys me about this is where we are as a club right now, how good things are, and what a brilliant performer Joelinton has been on the pitch, Eddie stated himself, 

‘I am very aware that I am going to be looked at by millions of people, especially children, and I think you have an expectation to make sure the game is upheld in the right way and with the right spirit,’ he said.

‘I am certainly aware of my demeanour and behaviour on the touchline. That’s not to say I don’t want to win with every fibre of my being, because I do, but I’ve always just had that inside me not to lose my discipline.’

 

At the time referring to Klopps behaviour, but he sets a good example for all, Joelinton needs to remember he represents the club at all times.  It's just a bit of a shame.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

3 hours ago, Jimburst said:

In Scotland there's no lower limit. You just can't drink and drive AIFIK. Seems very sensible.

 

Its 0 in Croatia.

[Dr Jinx]

It’s disappointing.. it’s not like we have a dressing room full of twats.. there’s good influences wherever you turn.

 

Not sure how over the limit he was, did he have 2 drinks? I totally agree 1 drink is too many but what I mean is will he be treated fairly by a judge or made an example of?

 

Youd really think that the club would have some sort of Michael Clayton/Ray Donovan type behind the scenes to sweep up these messes.

[gbandit]

Need Mike Ehrmantraut 

[Jaqen]

It's going to be a touchy subject when so many people have had to deal with deaths directly related to drink driving. So seeing people trying to justify or downplay it because they like him as a player is going to rub some people up the wrong way. 

 

He doesn't need crucified but he also doesn't need people trying to make excuses for him either. He's got behind the wheel after drinking, he's been a dickhead. Got confidence Eddie will handle it the best way he sees fit. 

 

[The Prophet]

Didn't Acuna and Nobby get charged with similar offences? 

[Wullie]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

Didn't Acuna and Nobby get charged with similar offences? 

Aye I think Acuna was dressed as a pirate at the time.

[TheBrownBottle]

Stupid thing to do, and absolutely not what we needed - and the ‘cultural misunderstanding’ thing is a non-starter; he’s been in the UK for coming up to four years.  Disappointing as he seems like a good bloke generally. 

 

Obviously, there is a difference between being just over the limit and staggering out the car, swinging at the coppers and shouting ‘ah’ll tek yez aaaaal, yer bastadz’.  Let the law deal with it, then the club, and it’s not an unreasonable expectation for him to learn, not do it again and move on. 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

4 minutes ago, Wullie said:

Aye I think Acuna was dressed as a pirate at the time.

 

 Seriously?

[Lush Vlad]

3 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

 

 Seriously?

 

 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

 Fantastic 

[Cronky]

Just when things were going so well.

 

It's a tricky one for Eddie to manage. He wouldn't want to pre-judge the trial, but at the same time he doesn't want this hanging over the team. I wouldn't play him over the weekend - time for young Elliot to step up, maybe. Then review the situation in the cold light of day, so to speak.

[Ronaldo]

Elliot. Have a word man.

[relámpago blanco]

12 minutes ago, Cronky said:

Just when things were going so well.

 

It's a tricky one for Eddie to manage. He wouldn't want to pre-judge the trial, but at the same time he doesn't want this hanging over the team. I wouldn't play him over the weekend - time for young Elliot to step up, maybe. Then review the situation in the cold light of day, so to speak.

Let's not overplay this situation without facts. Also Anderson is promising but looked poorer against sheff we'd and one backpass nearly led to a goal for them. 

 

 

[FLUMPO235]

Seems like for now everything that can be said on this has been said.

 

are there not admins who lock this sort of thing until there is an update from the club or the magistrate. 
 

seems like it’s just likely to cause arguments that are not needed. 

[Shadow Puppets]

Just fucking fine him, let the law do it’s job, and move on.

 

I genuinely don’t think the public as a whole will care that much one way or another… certainly no one will boo him. He’s a human being. He’s made a mistake. If he’s guilty he’ll get a driving ban.

 

You don’t drop a player because of something like this. Give your head a shake.

[Geordie Ahmed]

1 hour ago, Theregulars said:

For sure, and he’ll be punished. But my point is before everyone starts saying what a terrible human being he is and how he should be put in a kennel wearing nothing but a torn kilt while everyone throws rocks at him, sometimes it’s useful to provide some context (or, in this case, hypothetical context). 
 

He has made a mistake. It may be a slight mistake or a big mistake depending on circumstances that we don’t know. It’s just tiresome that we always have to have the conclusion and judgment like a downloadable iTunes song in 30 seconds. 
 

I’ll support him because I don’t think he’s a bad person. Im biased because he’s a Newcastle player.

I don't think anyone that has criticised him has said he should be severely punished

 

I think the majority stance is what he did was a bellend thing to do, he'll rightly be punished by the law.

 

Then there is some difference of opinion on whether the club suspend him or not. I personally think Howe should drop him for a game, though aware not everyone will have that opinion.

 

After that, he should be brought back into the team and we can all move on.

[Dr Jinx]

Well, recently in terms of actually losing a game and all the debate about the squad, big Joe and his brush with Johnny Law and all these other fucking minor grievances, that just a few years ago we were in some sort of deranged coordinated fashion, going after celebrities on twitter who Keith Bishop represented and hassling any companies associated with him or Mike Ashley by leaving salty reviews on Trustpilot.

 

A little perspective can go a long way.

[Heron]

Quite looking forward to Eddie Howe playing this down and dealing with it as Eddie Howe does. Cool, calm and with rationale.

 

 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

9 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Just fucking fine him, let the law do it’s job, and move on.

 

I genuinely don’t think the public as a whole will care that much one way or another… certainly no one will boo him. He’s a human being. He’s made a mistake. If he’s guilty he’ll get a driving ban.

 

You don’t drop a player because of something like this. Give your head a shake.

 

Was thinking about this earlier, I wouldnt get fined or banned from my work for it, so why should he. But then there are other considerations so I reckon the gesture from club and player is there to make a greater point, which I cant argue with.

[LRD]

3 hours ago, Theregulars said:

I lived in Singapore for 3 years (approx same time as he’s been in England) and I couldn’t tell you what their drink drive limit is (assume it’s 0 knowing their deterrent system). 

 

Don't be ridiculous. ? It's the same limits as England's.

 

 

Edited January 13, 2023 by LRD

[Chris_R]

4 hours ago, Infatuation Junkie said:

Problem with the system is.

 

The limit is 1 pint.

90% of drinkers will have 1 pint and be fine to drive. Breathalyser check may equate to being below the limit.

 

I am 10yr sober. So 1 pint of piss fosters and I would be swerving all over the road. Get the book chucked at me and get a 20 month ban and a fine. Kill someone and do a long stretch.

 

If you have even the slightest of doubts before getting in the car. Don’t drive.

 

Joe knew full well that he may possibly fail the test. Just like Joe blogs after a swift pint before driving home. 
 

You take a gamble. Expect to accept the consequences.

 

That's not how it works though. You may well be swerving all over the place after 1 pint, but you'd blow under the limit because it's a blood alcohol level. How drunk you feel is irrelevant. My mum's like this, she's borderline alcohol intolerant and can be wasted after one small glass of wine but after ploughing though a zebra crossing full of children would blow, under which is terrifying.

 

I'm the reverse, personally I like a beer and perhaps I could drive fine after 3 but despite that I'd probably blow over the limit. But the rules are the rules and there's nothing to be gained by driving as close to the limit as you can, it's obvious alcohol impairs you and driving a couple of tonnes of metal is not to be taken lightly. I'd never drive after 3, you're a fucking idiot if you do. 1 is my limit if I go out for a meal, maximum, but ideally 0. It's not difficult.

[Wild Geese]

Not trying to downplay Joe’s drink driving charge, although to be clear honest, I’m not full bottle on the U.k. Road laws……

 

I’ll also be honest and admit I’ve drunk and driven many many times, not deliberately, but sometimes things get out of hand.

Haven’t done it for a long time, but I’ve probably been close to the limit at times.

 

Hope the Club don’t discipline Joe too severely, maybe that’s a selfish thing to say on my behalf, but one things for sure, Joe is a confidence player, hopefully compassionate help to identify if there is a problem or if this incident is a one off.

 

“Let him without sin cast the first stone”