Lenny Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating. Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I'm glad he has flopped, hopefully Mike is fuming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Got to question Bruce's scouting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I'm glad he has flopped, hopefully Mike is fuming. Everyone will flop man. Even ASM as dangerous as he is will not translate to anything tangible, because the whole setup, plan and approach is completely ineffective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 If there’s no connection between signings and football strategy, things will inevitably fall apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 We don't get him anywhere near goalscoring positions. Barely anyone within 20 yards of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 It might even be that he's not good enough in other ways, maybe he doesn't attack the spaces in the penalty area like all good forwards should. But how can you know when we barely get the ball into those areas? For all his trickery, I can remember one decent cross coming in from Maximin. Don't think there was even one from the other side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 It might even be that he's not good enough in other ways, maybe he doesn't attack the spaces in the penalty area like all good forwards should. But how can you know when we barely get the ball into those areas? For all his trickery, I can remember one decent cross coming in from Maximin. Don't think there was even one from the other side. The guy never sees the ball When last did we even see him get an opportunity to miss a chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating. Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths. Which are? I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating. Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths. Which are? I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are. Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 He’s only had 15 shots this season which says an awful lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating. Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths. Which are? I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are. Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles. I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender. He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score. Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar. He is clueless I tell you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating. Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths. Which are? I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are. Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles. I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender. He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score. Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar. He is clueless I tell you. Don't think anyone is trying to argue that he's good at dealing with long high punts. How many Brazilian forwards do you know that are? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a fucking target man We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating. Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths. Which are? I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are. Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles. I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender. He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score. Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar. He is clueless I tell you. It was great play by Kane. How often is he asked to do that though? It was one time. You can't say Joelinton never managed that earlier this season. It has all worm thin now though. He never gets any other opportunities to get on the ball and get a feel for the game and grow into things. Think it's all really unfortunate for the guy. It's a terrible situation to come into as a new player in the league. I understand people's frustration at this point though, so won't begrudge you that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a f***ing target man We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating. Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths. Which are? I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are. Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles. I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender. He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score. Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar. He is clueless I tell you. Harry Kane is a centre forward and has been a centre forward for a long time. He also has a far better supply. Joelinton has never played this role before in his life, no wonder he looks shite. It's not his fault, he shouldn't be there being asked to do this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a f***ing target man We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating. Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths. Which are? I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are. Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles. I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender. He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score. Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar. He is clueless I tell you. Harry Kane is a centre forward and has been a centre forward for a long time. He also has a far better supply. Joelinton has never played this role before in his life, no wonder he looks shite. It's not his fault, he shouldn't be there being asked to do this. Greg, I'm going around in circles with this. Let's cut to the Chase. Do you think Joelinton should be playing in this football team? Yes or no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I mean, if we don't have a target man, then don't play a formation that requires a f***ing target man We could try doing that even with Joelinton. He clearly doesn't relish high balls winged at him from deep. Get the ball into his feet and see how he gets on. Problem is we don't have enough good possession to get the ball up the pitch where he should be operating. Absolutely. Try playing to his strengths. Which are? I'm intrigued to know what Joelinton's attributes are. Looks to have decent feet in the penalty area on the rare occasion he gets the ball in there. Other than that can't really say until we start getting the ball coming in from decent angles. I'm watching Liverpool v Spurs and Kane gets on the end of an aimless ball hoofed up by a defender. He gets in front of his marker (that's in front of the defender Joelinton) and Son picks up the ball and Spurs nearly score. Why can't our centre forward (cough) do something similar. He is clueless I tell you. Harry Kane is a centre forward and has been a centre forward for a long time. He also has a far better supply. Joelinton has never played this role before in his life, no wonder he looks s****. It's not his fault, he shouldn't be there being asked to do this. Greg, I'm going around in circles with this. Let's cut to the Chase. Do you think Joelinton should be playing in this football team? Yes or no. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I like Joelinton, but he's not ready for starting in this league each week. Especially thrown in the deepend as a number 9 in a side that's terrible at creating chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Is he a good crosser of a ball? YouTube has some really good running with the ball from deep but not a lot of passing or crossing. Played into feet his link play has been nice at times this season, but I just can't picture him playing where Ayoze played or on the wing, based on these 10 games. For people who saw him in Germany and say he's not in his correct position, who would you compare him to? Like a Rashford/Martial coming in from the side type? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Rafa must be building the biggest megaphone in the world and standing it on top of China's highest mountain pointing it at Ashley.... "I TOLD YOU SO" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Rafa must be building the biggest megaphone in the world and standing it on top of China's highest mountain pointing it at Ashley.... "I TOLD YOU SO" Do you think Rondon would do any better in this set up? He didn’t under a Pulis or Pardew team so see no reason why he would under a Bruce one. Someone else pointed out, we don’t press as a three like we did last season. Joelinton is often playing with his back to goal with two centre-backs on him and no team mate within 20-30 yards of him. I think these 3 attackers with Benitez would work. Under a shitebag like Bruce, they won’t. Simple really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Mike Ashley’s footballing House of Fraser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Might be even sooner than predicted the Donnay Army turn on him. A missed chance or losing a 50/50 against Bournemouth could be enough. Cannot wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Controversial opinion - but I don't actually think he looks that bad... He actually won quite a few flicks on yesterday but there was no one around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Like Bruce said, it's all Rafa's fault, and its absolutely wrecking Joelinton's game. Even though Joelinton never played for Rafa, he is also caught up in this mysterious defensive mentality that is plaguing the training ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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