Papavasiliou Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, David Edgar said: This isn't true. He ignores easy passed to attempt wasteful dribbles in areas where losing the ball allows for a quick opposition counter. Easy passes aren't always good passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Papavasiliou said: Easy passes aren't always good passes. They are in the situations I'm talking about. ASMs decision making is pretty woeful. Just a stark contrast to Bruno and worse than everyone else in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I like ASM and there is obviously the chance of him becoming an effective player. He needs to learn when to pick the easy pass and when to go on a solo raid. Often he tries the “too long” solo raid. He rarely does the pass and move and then get the ball back again to continue. It’s not always necessary to have the last shot or pass before a eventual goal. In my opinion he stands still too often when he receives the ball and takes too many touches even the times when he ends up playing the simple pass. Play it quickly to begin with and then offer your team mate a new passing option. I know he has a lot of opposition players against him, doubling up and he ends up in too tight and crowded situations. But he also invites this by either receiving the ball being too static, or holding on to the ball for too long or taking too many touches or players on. When he finds the correct balance of when to do what, evaluating correctly, only then can he fulfil his potential and talent. Having said all that, it will be interesting to see if Eddie can change him for next season,If he listens and follows instructions. Safe to say that he could then be one hell of a player, even if his end product lets him down at times (can be worked on) He can be a much better player now with quite a few tweaks and some better confidence. Right now the only players we have that I properly hope we build the team around is Bruno, Trippier and Targett. Obviously other players have massive roles to play as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 He can go in a couple of seasons if he can't adapt and we progress but currently he's still one of our best players, has played more minutes than anybody else, and has more combined g+a than anybody else in the squad. We've got enough of a rebuilding job on without jettisoning our best players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: He can go in a couple of seasons if he can't adapt and we progress but currently he's still one of our best players, has played more minutes than anybody else, and has more combined g+a than anybody else in the squad. We've got enough of a rebuilding job on without jettisoning our best players. I agree. I don’t want him gone either. Within time he will be gone anyway if things don’t change for the better in a year or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Yorkie said: Feel like that is a totally baseless and unfair thing to throw at him. He's emotional and stroppy and will milk the crowd's affection, but I see absolutely nothing to suggest he's more interested in the limelight than he is the team's progress. You just have to look at his reaction to our last two winners. I think both can be true. I don't think he's selfishly upset about not being the sole hope, but I think it is a role adjustment for him, both psychologically and tactically. I think he feels a bit like he's seen as yesterday's man. Edited April 21, 2022 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 He's out of form and it's fine keeping him on against the poorer sides, Have to drop him after Norwich though surely, until Burnley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 2 hours ago, The Butcher said: What in the strictly come dancing was that? Love how Kouyate just slowly backs away in confusion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 2 hours ago, TRon said: Honestly I just don't see him ever being that player. He's trying to do it a bit now, but often still holds onto it a fraction too long. It goes against every instinct in his body. Would definitely be interesting to see what he would look like surrounded by better players, but I think ultimately he'd still want to dribble for the sake of dribbling. It's what he's about. Yeah, I think with better players around him he'll look even more frustrating, because his penchant for dwelling on the ball too long at the wrong times will be even more glaring. We'll find out soon enough though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Yeah, I think with better players around him he'll look even more frustrating, because his penchant for dwelling on the ball too long at the wrong times will be even more glaring. We'll find out soon enough though. I think this is exactly why he ended up signing for us in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 in my completely useless opinion a lot of ASM's current problems are down to the role / freedom he was given by the fat Khunt who's now at WBA, clearly had zero control over ASM as he was our only outlet / creator, thus allowing him a free role behind the "false 10 (Fkin lol)" now hes being reigned into a system hes lost & those attempts at taking 4 or 5 defenders on has been worked out by savvy coaches / players, I fear hes not long for this squad if he dont adapt & fit into king Eddies methods Just my tuppence worth of course & im almost certainly miles away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 27 minutes ago, KaKa said: What in the strictly come dancing was that? Love how Kouyate just slowly backs away in confusion Was like that old Ronaldo animation when he first joined Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, David Edgar said: I think this is exactly why he ended up signing for us in the first place. Yup, along with the defensive work and some discipline issues off the pitch. He was young then though, he's just turned 25 now, and so you'd like to think he can take the next step now and evolve as a player, so let's see. Big pre-season of preparation for him heading into next season. Edited April 21, 2022 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 There's always a weird narrative around him for whatever reason. "Doesn't want to try because Bruce has been sacked" "Throwing a strop because Eddie has asked him to track back" "Cares more about his board game" "Faking an injury so he could be subbed off" "Not happy because he's not the main man" Eddie has said numerous times he's playing for survival not how he wants to play long term. He's improved pretty much every player we have since he got here so there's little to suggest he won't be able to improve Maxi once we bring in proper attacking options around him and setup to play like he wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 There are definitely times when a simple pass or a one-two would get us in a better position than him running it. I think what you ideally want is for that aspect of his game to be timed better, so it comes as a surprise to the opposition, rather than trying a dribble every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I would definitely play him against Norwich no doubt, but against Liverpool and city I would definitely look at playing Almiron behind wood and bringing in Willock for ASM packing the midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I actually thought he played well last night to be honest. It feels like he has to score or set one up to get any real praise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: I actually thought he played well last night to be honest. It feels like he has to score or set one up to get any real praise. it’s not only about scoring or assisting. It’s about fluidity. Moving the ball around as a team and not lose possession too easily. And play it quick and simple to create new openings and running against opposition when there is a fair chance of punishing them. Make the right choice of when going for the kill. Running into crowds constantly isn’t the solution, especially a lot of situations. Edited April 21, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 3 hours ago, nufcnick said: I would definitely play him against Norwich no doubt, but against Liverpool and city I would definitely look at playing Almiron behind wood and bringing in Willock for ASM packing the midfield IMO he's the most important player when we are playing City/Pool and have even less possession than usually. Thought he had a great game at Anfield on a free role and had numerous good runs that troubled them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 10 hours ago, Pata said: IMO he's the most important player when we are playing City/Pool and have even less possession than usually. Thought he had a great game at Anfield on a free role and had numerous good runs that troubled them. Yeah. I think he doe better against the better teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 12 hours ago, Ikon said: it’s not only about scoring or assisting. It’s about fluidity. Moving the ball around as a team and not lose possession too easily. And play it quick and simple to create new openings and running against opposition when there is a fair chance of punishing them. Make the right choice of when going for the kill. Running into crowds constantly isn’t the solution, especially a lot of situations. But equally we will have lots of occasions where passing it around gets you nowhere. You need different options - he provides something totally different and unpredictable to everybody else in our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 hour ago, ponsaelius said: But equally we will have lots of occasions where passing it around gets you nowhere. You need different options - he provides something totally different and unpredictable to everybody else in our squad. Totally agree. Every player can't just constantly just pass it around, that's not what i'm saying. There has to be someone/few who runs at players, taking them on, going on solo raids. But there has to be a balance to it, evaluating the gameplay when to play it simple and when to go on a solo raid taking players on and be creative and try something out of the ordinary. It's all about decision making. He plays it simple too but even then he takes a few extra touches for no reason at all sometimes. I love him, and he has the world at his feet. If he can tune his game when it comes to the above that's when we will see him really fulfil his potential. He has every chance of playing for france if his decision making gets better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Passing is a last resort for the lad unless a killer ball is open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 You need players who can mix it up, not a team who can mix it up. No point having a passer on the left and a dribbler on the right [or vice versa] both players need to keep the defence guessing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 He's probably the most fortunate of all the players in our team for the takeover happening when it did. He came to us at a time when the lack of direction allowed him to be a maverick and showcase his natural talent, and then the takeover coming at a time where as the side improves in quality he has the chance to start playing at the level he would want to, as long as he can mature alongside the team. He has all the ability in the world, but next season is going to be the make or break for him at this club, and if he fails here, his chances of playing at a top level club will not come around again I don't think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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