Allan Saint-Maximin (now playing for Fenerbahce, on loan from Al-Ahli)

[AJ9]

Bullshit, basically. It’s pretty clear the scousers are hurting and are scared of us. Petty little crooks.

 

 

Edited July 22, 2023 by AJ9

[gbandit]

It’s a non-starter. Doesn’t make the debate and the attempt to ‘moralise’ the issue for the integrity of the game any less tedious and pathetic.

 

It might be something that clubs could make a case about if we were a club scrapping around the championship or bottom of the PL and we made a huge value sale on a player who was a nothing player.

 

What would be the argument here? We’ve gotten into the champions league and sold a player whose stats are strong and who’s widely regarded as an extremely talented player in the league. The whole thing’s absurd 

[McDog]

Honestly, it would have to be pretty egregious for anyone to look at it seriously.

This looks exactly market value which as others have said is difficult to know in the first place. Were the fee 100M then eyebrows would get raised.

[Matt1892]

It is more likely to be a shot across the bows rather than having an issue specifically with ASM’s fee.

[Miggys First Goal]

PIF should sue Liverpool and Spurs into oblivion. Make them go bust. 

[McDog]

2 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

PIF should sue Liverpool and Spurs into oblivion. Make them go bust. 

 

 

Nothing has happened and it would be the PL they would sue should they pull some crazy shit based on their complaints.

[Skeletor]

7 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

PIF should sue Liverpool and Spurs into oblivion. Make them go bust. 

 

The best revenge would be to keep them out of the top 4 again  

[McDog]

Just now, Skeletor said:

 

The best revenge would be to keep them out of the top 4 again  

 

 

We can all get behind that.

[HawK]

Just use some selective FBRef stats to quote 'fair value', on progressive carries per 90 and succesful take-ons per 90 he must be worth at least £700m tbh.

[Slim]

Sorry a bit late, have people discussed who is better ASM or Barnes?

 

Hopefully this could set off a good chat.

 

Thank you

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Slim said:

Sorry a bit late, have people discussed who is better ASM or Barnes?

 

Hopefully this could set off a good chat.

 

Thank you

 

That’s a tough one. 

On one hand you have a player who scores goals for fun from the LW position. 

On the other hand you have a player who does some step overs and plays about 3 decent games a season. 

I don’t know which I’d pick. 

[McDog]

Just now, Slim said:

Sorry a bit late, have people discussed who is better ASM or Barnes?

 

Hopefully this could set off a good chat.

 

Thank you

 

 

 

Yes, it was determined to be a 50/50 split. 

My opinion? Depends on what you are looking for in the player.

[BonesJones]

 

[Ketsbaia]

The audacity of these clubs, man 

 

Dodgy deal? We're getting underpaid for our only souce of flair! Genuinely a £40-50m player right now & the fee sounds nowhere near.

 

They can get to fuck 

[toontownman]

The systems is so broken and has been for years but its hilarious its the majority of clubs that broke it and benefitted the most that have their arms constantly up in the air whining about how they are threatened. 

 

Does this then open up the door the other way for the PL to investigate things like Manure trying to charge 3 times the regular fee or what West Ham paid for Lingard to come to us on loan because we are a "rival" or other clubs inflating fees for rivals or because "we can pay more" or charging more to fit their own FFP? Should there be one set price for everyone?. When does it end. So many clubs have working partnerships and good relations. How much scrutiny is needed in the game? There isn't enough time lol

[Toon No9]

So, a few deals this summer to compare with:

 

Mason Mount £60M

Ruben Neves £48M

Riyad Mahrez £30M

Moussa Diaby £52M

Sandro Tonali £55M

Andre Onana £48M

Declan Rice £105M

 

It's also said Harvey Barnes will cost us £38M and we've had a bid of £30M for Tino Livramento turned down, as Southampton value him at £50M.

 

So then to say that Newcastle are putting an unrealistic high price for Allan Saint-Maximin at £30M is just ridiculous!

[toon25]

7 minutes ago, Toon No9 said:

So, a few deals this summer to compare with:

 

Mason Mount £60M

Ruben Neves £48M

Riyad Mahrez £30M

Moussa Diaby £52M

Sandro Tonali £55M

Andre Onana £48M

Declan Rice £105M

 

It's also said Harvey Barnes will cost us £38M and we've had a bid of £30M for Tino Livramento turned down, as Southampton value him at £50M.

 

So then to say that Newcastle are putting an unrealistic high price for Allan Saint-Maximin at £30M is just ridiculous!

 

Mason Mount and Rice prices are utterly absurd 

[James]

WTF is this shithead of a post?

[Gawalls]

Our owners saw this coming which is why they stuck to market value (probably even on the lower side) knowing fans would complain but not taking the piss as they knew other clubs would issue a complaint.

 

it seems our owners aren’ta a clueless moron like Chelseas 

[James]

1 hour ago, James said:

WTF is this shithead of a post?

just to clarify, the original post above, now deleted was some anti-semetic lunacy

[Geordie Boyo]

Seems like anything happening incoming is pending on this maxi deal going through as far as what Eddie has said. I don’t know why it’s taking so long. Hopefully this week we’ll see some progress at least with that then hopefully a chain reaction of signings .

[Toon No9]

4 minutes ago, Geordie Boyo said:

Seems like anything happening incoming is pending on this maxi deal going through as far as what Eddie has said. I don’t know why it’s taking so long. Hopefully this week we’ll see some progress at least with that then hopefully a chain reaction of signings .

I think the hold up of the Barnes deal is that acording to new rules PL has to investigate the ASM deal when two clubs with the same owner is doing a deal with each other. Just to see that the price is of market value.

 

An investigation that, I'm sure, would lead to a positive outcome for Newcastle. There is nothing strange with the fee if you look at todays market. But it takes a few days and that's extremly frustrating for us fans.

 

Sounds on Howe that he's not to worried about it, even though he would prefer to have Barnes in the US for the training camp.

[Miggys First Goal]

Every other transfer involving other clubs seem to go through quickly, whereas with us, whether it’s incoming or outgoing, it takes an absolute age. 

[oldtype]

Let’s not be willfully blind to what this really is. “Fair market value” or not I don’t think you can complain about raised eyebrows when it’s effectively our owners negotiating with themselves. The conversation will have been “how high can we make the transfer fee while still retaining plausible deniability.” Not any kind of real transfer negotiation. It’s the same problem as the Sela shirt sponsorship.

 

I’m not saying the sky is falling, but every time I see something like this my “this isn’t going to end well, is it?” dial for Saudi ownership clicks one notch forward. And the more successful the club is, and the higher the stakes become, the less careful they’re going to be about stuff like this.

 

 

Edited July 23, 2023 by oldtype

[ExiledGeordie]

1 minute ago, Miggys First Goal said:

Every other transfer involving other clubs seem to go through quickly, whereas with us, whether it’s incoming or outgoing, it takes an absolute age. 

I wouldn’t entirely agree really, Tonali’s was relatively quick. The ASM transfer is obviously going to be scrutinised and therefore add some time re the PIF link but Christ it’s not like we’re selling him for 80m ? That would definitely raise eyebrows and rightly so. But 25-30m is hardly inflating his valuation ffs when you look at other transfers going out to Saudi.