Guest godzilla Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 That Shell bird on Twitter is an absolute doylem as well. https://twitter.com/RedRoseMichelle/status/1251085828354342912 Thanks for that sober legal analysis there Michelle! She's correct in what she says, is she not? "Our view is that he's likely trying to pave the way for continuing to paint his fellow Londoner..." - that's not a legal analysis, it's a pathetic sop to the "Cockney b******" masses on Twitter designed to keep the RTs and likes flowing. She's a junior solicitor in her 20s with zero experience of corporate acquisitions, and should be ignored by anyone with an interest in reality. Bet she has a lot more knowledge on the subject than you though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Watch this video (10m37s) by a couple of lawyers who support NUFC discussing the Fit & Proper Test and the ability/likelihood of Ashley pulling out. It's very good and easy to understand. Something about a woman in a footy top that just does it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 You lot are a bunch of weirdos. The mood switches in here like a lass on her rag. If a takeover wasnt happening Ashley would have quashed it ages ago man. Especially since his favourite thing in the world is disappointing Newcastle fans. You have to raise expectations to evoke disappointment. It seems self-evident that expectation has been raised sufficiently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/16/exit-the-house-of-karrimor-enter-the-austere-and-unforgiving-house-of-saud "Mike Ashley: pig-headed retail magnate. Saudi Arabia: blood-stained inherited dictatorship. Mike Ashley: zero hours contracts in his sports shops. Saudi Arabia: beheaded 37 men in a single day. Mike Ashley: showed disrespect to Rafa Benítez. Saudi Arabia: murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. Is this useful at all?" Exit the building Lads and Lasses... Hes not said alot wrong there. I think what annoys me is the concentration on sport. If this journalist has a portfolio of articles on Saudi Arabia and how our government deals with them, then I suppose hes earned the right to talk about it. If his first article on the Saudi regime is related to the owning football clubs, then hes kind of missing the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/16/exit-the-house-of-karrimor-enter-the-austere-and-unforgiving-house-of-saud "Mike Ashley: pig-headed retail magnate. Saudi Arabia: blood-stained inherited dictatorship. Mike Ashley: zero hours contracts in his sports shops. Saudi Arabia: beheaded 37 men in a single day. Mike Ashley: showed disrespect to Rafa Benítez. Saudi Arabia: murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. Is this useful at all?" Exit the building Lads and Lasses... A full read of that is actually quite good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I don’t think we can deal with another false dawn especially not during lockdown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I don’t think we can deal with another false dawn especially not during lockdown. Speak for yourself you sensitive little snowflake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Misery Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/16/exit-the-house-of-karrimor-enter-the-austere-and-unforgiving-house-of-saud "Mike Ashley: pig-headed retail magnate. Saudi Arabia: blood-stained inherited dictatorship. Mike Ashley: zero hours contracts in his sports shops. Saudi Arabia: beheaded 37 men in a single day. Mike Ashley: showed disrespect to Rafa Benítez. Saudi Arabia: murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. Is this useful at all?" Exit the building Lads and Lasses... Hes not said alot wrong there. I think what annoys me is the concentration on sport. If this journalist has a portfolio of articles on Saudi Arabia and how our government deals with them, then I suppose hes earned the right to talk about it. If his first article on the Saudi regime is related to the owning football clubs, then hes kind of missing the point. I think he's an intelligent Lad and knows all about Saudi Arabia but he's a football journalist...truth hurts doesn't it. Out of the frying pan and into the fire we go... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/16/exit-the-house-of-karrimor-enter-the-austere-and-unforgiving-house-of-saud "Mike Ashley: pig-headed retail magnate. Saudi Arabia: blood-stained inherited dictatorship. Mike Ashley: zero hours contracts in his sports shops. Saudi Arabia: beheaded 37 men in a single day. Mike Ashley: showed disrespect to Rafa Benítez. Saudi Arabia: murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. Is this useful at all?" Exit the building Lads and Lasses... Hes not said alot wrong there. I think what annoys me is the concentration on sport. If this journalist has a portfolio of articles on Saudi Arabia and how our government deals with them, then I suppose hes earned the right to talk about it. If his first article on the Saudi regime is related to the owning football clubs, then hes kind of missing the point. I think he's an intelligent Lad and knows all about Saudi Arabia but he's a football journalist...truth hurts doesn't it. Out of the frying pan and into the fire we go... The truth doesnt hurt me whatsoever. :lol: Like I say, our government can deal in arms with the Saudis but I cant enjoy some football which is partially funded by them? Na, fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 He knows all about Saudi Arabia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Misery Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/16/exit-the-house-of-karrimor-enter-the-austere-and-unforgiving-house-of-saud "Mike Ashley: pig-headed retail magnate. Saudi Arabia: blood-stained inherited dictatorship. Mike Ashley: zero hours contracts in his sports shops. Saudi Arabia: beheaded 37 men in a single day. Mike Ashley: showed disrespect to Rafa Benítez. Saudi Arabia: murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. Is this useful at all?" Exit the building Lads and Lasses... Hes not said alot wrong there. I think what annoys me is the concentration on sport. If this journalist has a portfolio of articles on Saudi Arabia and how our government deals with them, then I suppose hes earned the right to talk about it. If his first article on the Saudi regime is related to the owning football clubs, then hes kind of missing the point. I think he's an intelligent Lad and knows all about Saudi Arabia but he's a football journalist...truth hurts doesn't it. Out of the frying pan and into the fire we go... The truth doesnt hurt me whatsoever. :lol: Like I say, our government can deal in arms with the Saudis but I cant enjoy some football which is partially funded by them? Na, fuck off. Your choice...I'll continue not spending any money on NUFC...for all the difference it makes. 37 beheaded in one day...must have been quite a sight...especially if they did them all at once...quite a bloodbath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Misery Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 He knows all about Saudi Arabia Your point being? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/16/exit-the-house-of-karrimor-enter-the-austere-and-unforgiving-house-of-saud "Mike Ashley: pig-headed retail magnate. Saudi Arabia: blood-stained inherited dictatorship. Mike Ashley: zero hours contracts in his sports shops. Saudi Arabia: beheaded 37 men in a single day. Mike Ashley: showed disrespect to Rafa Benítez. Saudi Arabia: murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. Is this useful at all?" Exit the building Lads and Lasses... Hes not said alot wrong there. I think what annoys me is the concentration on sport. If this journalist has a portfolio of articles on Saudi Arabia and how our government deals with them, then I suppose hes earned the right to talk about it. If his first article on the Saudi regime is related to the owning football clubs, then hes kind of missing the point. I think he's an intelligent Lad and knows all about Saudi Arabia but he's a football journalist...truth hurts doesn't it. Out of the frying pan and into the fire we go... The truth doesnt hurt me whatsoever. :lol: Like I say, our government can deal in arms with the Saudis but I cant enjoy some football which is partially funded by them? Na, fuck off. I absolutely get it, there are moral issues to comprehend here but it does all feel very reactionary and targeted. The Saudi royal family and indeed PIF have majority shareholdings all over the shop and have been building a large portfolio for a number of years. No one is boycotting UBER for example, people are even complaining about Saudi ownership on Twitter, you know the platform that has Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud as one their majority shareholders. This is not a defence, but you can't pick and choose your moral outrages. None of these pieces that are questioning the acquisition are mentioning any of the other issues in the West, most pertinently our own government's involvement with Saudi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Like I say, our government can deal in arms with the Saudis but I cant enjoy some football which is partially funded by them? Na, fuck off. depends on how comfortable one is calibrating their moral compass by the british government tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 That Shell bird on Twitter is an absolute doylem as well. https://twitter.com/RedRoseMichelle/status/1251085828354342912 Thanks for that sober legal analysis there Michelle! She's correct in what she says, is she not? "Our view is that he's likely trying to pave the way for continuing to paint his fellow Londoner..." - that's not a legal analysis, it's a pathetic sop to the "Cockney b******" masses on Twitter designed to keep the RTs and likes flowing. She's a junior solicitor in her 20s with zero experience of corporate acquisitions, and should be ignored by anyone with an interest in reality. Bet she has a lot more knowledge on the subject than you though. I'm a chartered accountant who now works in corporate finance, so if a junior solicitor from a criminal law background knows more then I'm even shitter at my job than I thought. But lets not get into a proxy willy-waving contest, it's all a bit embarrassing. I'm just trying to help people see the wood for the trees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/16/exit-the-house-of-karrimor-enter-the-austere-and-unforgiving-house-of-saud "Mike Ashley: pig-headed retail magnate. Saudi Arabia: blood-stained inherited dictatorship. Mike Ashley: zero hours contracts in his sports shops. Saudi Arabia: beheaded 37 men in a single day. Mike Ashley: showed disrespect to Rafa Benítez. Saudi Arabia: murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. Is this useful at all?" Exit the building Lads and Lasses... A full read of that is actually quite good. It is. I'm not expecting people not to be excited about the prospects of this but wish the "club getting it's soul back" and "saudi saviours" shit would stop quickly. Cringe as fuck. E: Obviously thats more on Twitter etc, where the idiots roam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Craig Hope saying Samuel didn’t say a fee was yet to be agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/16/exit-the-house-of-karrimor-enter-the-austere-and-unforgiving-house-of-saud "Mike Ashley: pig-headed retail magnate. Saudi Arabia: blood-stained inherited dictatorship. Mike Ashley: zero hours contracts in his sports shops. Saudi Arabia: beheaded 37 men in a single day. Mike Ashley: showed disrespect to Rafa Benítez. Saudi Arabia: murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. Is this useful at all?" Exit the building Lads and Lasses... Hes not said alot wrong there. I think what annoys me is the concentration on sport. If this journalist has a portfolio of articles on Saudi Arabia and how our government deals with them, then I suppose hes earned the right to talk about it. If his first article on the Saudi regime is related to the owning football clubs, then hes kind of missing the point. I think he's an intelligent Lad and knows all about Saudi Arabia but he's a football journalist...truth hurts doesn't it. Out of the frying pan and into the fire we go... Oh yeah because what really bothered Newcastle fans about Mike Ashley was his zero hour contracts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Ah fuck it, just liquidate the club on your way out Mike, what's the point anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Craig Hope saying Samuel didn’t say a fee was yet to be agreed. The column if you read it, doesn’t actually say that. This is what many people have been pointing out since it was published last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Like I say, our government can deal in arms with the Saudis but I cant enjoy some football which is partially funded by them? Na, fuck off. depends on how comfortable one is calibrating their moral compass by the british government tbh You have a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Misery Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/16/exit-the-house-of-karrimor-enter-the-austere-and-unforgiving-house-of-saud "Mike Ashley: pig-headed retail magnate. Saudi Arabia: blood-stained inherited dictatorship. Mike Ashley: zero hours contracts in his sports shops. Saudi Arabia: beheaded 37 men in a single day. Mike Ashley: showed disrespect to Rafa Benítez. Saudi Arabia: murdered and dismembered Jamal Khashoggi. Is this useful at all?" Exit the building Lads and Lasses... Hes not said alot wrong there. I think what annoys me is the concentration on sport. If this journalist has a portfolio of articles on Saudi Arabia and how our government deals with them, then I suppose hes earned the right to talk about it. If his first article on the Saudi regime is related to the owning football clubs, then hes kind of missing the point. I think he's an intelligent Lad and knows all about Saudi Arabia but he's a football journalist...truth hurts doesn't it. Out of the frying pan and into the fire we go... The truth doesnt hurt me whatsoever. :lol: Like I say, our government can deal in arms with the Saudis but I cant enjoy some football which is partially funded by them? Na, fuck off. I absolutely get it, there are moral issues to comprehend here but it does all feel very reactionary and targeted. The Saudi royal family and indeed PIF have majority shareholdings all over the shop and have been building a large portfolio for a number of years. No one is boycotting UBER for example, people are even complaining about Saudi ownership on Twitter, you know the platform that has Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud as one their majority shareholders. This is not a defence, but you can't pick and choose your moral outrages. None of these pieces that are questioning the acquisition are mentioning any of the other issues in the West, most pertinently our own government's involvement with Saudi. If you read the Ronay article it is implicit : "In a world where nobody is clean, where every hedge fund is connected to something grey, where even professional journalists struggle to see the difference between the harm done by leveraged buyouts and the moral vacuity of nation-state reputation washing, it is easy to fall into moral relativism, to lose any confidence in the ability to say this is not a desirable outcome. At the end of which Mohammed bin Salman is coming up the path in a black and white striped shirt. And the unregulated, entirely commercial Premier League has taken another decisive step down a path from which it will struggle to return." I'm boycotting Uber. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Craig Hope saying Samuel didn’t say a fee was yet to be agreed. The column if you read it, doesn’t actually say that. This is what many people have been pointing out since it was published last night. That’s why I got the impression he was trying to play down the impact that the Saudis and co will have, rather than pour cold water on it happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Aye I bet you are Mr Misery. Not an iPhone, chinese made item or t shirt made by a 9 year old anywhere near your house. Proper Ghandi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 That Shell bird on Twitter is an absolute doylem as well. https://twitter.com/RedRoseMichelle/status/1251085828354342912 Thanks for that sober legal analysis there Michelle! She's correct in what she says, is she not? "Our view is that he's likely trying to pave the way for continuing to paint his fellow Londoner..." - that's not a legal analysis, it's a pathetic sop to the "Cockney b******" masses on Twitter designed to keep the RTs and likes flowing. She's a junior solicitor in her 20s with zero experience of corporate acquisitions, and should be ignored by anyone with an interest in reality. Bet she has a lot more knowledge on the subject than you though. I'm a chartered accountant who now works in corporate finance, so if a junior solicitor from a criminal law background knows more then I'm even shitter at my job than I thought. But lets not get into a proxy willy-waving contest, it's all a bit embarrassing. I'm just trying to help people see the wood for the trees. Well your entitled to your opinion like anyone, don't know if you're a chartered accountant or not just have to take your word for that, but I certainly think her analysis on what's happening is pretty close to the the mark. Time will tell though if she is right or not and if she is I will be celebrating too much to give you stick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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