TooonDoom Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Are you’ll listening premier league? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/roma-chiefs-make-contact-saudi-22029593 Daily star I know but it highlights a point a few have made regarding why the premier league would want to approve for financial reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Ahhh.... the old "if you dont want me I'll find someone else" trick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Are you’ll listening premier league? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/roma-chiefs-make-contact-saudi-22029593 Daily star I know but it highlights a point a few have made regarding why the premier league would want to approve for financial reasons. Out of all the articles that’s been written, this is the most laughable and most obviously clickbait of them all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Ahhh.... the old "if you dont want me I'll find someone else" trick Yeah pretty much. It’s nice that there are starting to be articles like this though. They’re about as interesting as the constant bashing ones but at least they bring a bit of balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Are you’ll listening premier league? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/roma-chiefs-make-contact-saudi-22029593 Daily star I know but it highlights a point a few have made regarding why the premier league would want to approve for financial reasons. Out of all the articles that’s been written, this is the most laughable and most obviously clickbait of them all. An article written by a third party using us to highlight their own issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Are you’ll listening premier league? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/roma-chiefs-make-contact-saudi-22029593 Daily star I know but it highlights a point a few have made regarding why the premier league would want to approve for financial reasons. Out of all the articles that’s been written, this is the most laughable and most obviously clickbait of them all. An article written by a third party using us to highlight their own issue. I’m not going to be on the side defending a fucking daily star article for those incapable of understanding why I posted that. To be explicitly clear I’m posting this to highlight that some of the reasons that have been posted here as to why the premier league may approve are being reported. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 BeoutQ is not simply a channel. Although the service as a set top box is not operational since last September and apparently the ArabSat satellites have stopped rebroadcasting beIN channels, BeoutQ has evolved into a package-based platform, which relies on "3rd-party" apps for it's content - IPTV, torrent streaming etc. Similar to Kodi, except it's based on Android and is not open source. Unfortunately, like the Khashoggi murder, the evidence of direct involvement of Senior officials is overwhelming. There's no doubt that beoutQ is (was) indeed a huge-scale piracy service, backed and most likely initiated and funded by members of the Saudi Royal Family. https://piracymonitor.org/the-impact-of-beoutq-piracy-on-bein-media/ That's a fairly recent article on beoutq. It includes other reference stories on the service and a claim that it was stopped in preparation for the bid to buy us. Here's the site, made by the beIN f***ers to push their side of the story (pretty convincingly): https://beoutq.tv/ And that's the technical investigation that FIFA, UEFA, the PL, Serie A, La Liga etc ordered as part of the court case in France - which btw has confirmed that the stolen BeIN content was transmitted through Arabsat satellites: https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/uefaorg/General/02/62/31/36/2623136_DOWNLOAD.pdf And how is tied to the PIF which is a separate legal entity. Unless there is a proven link, not heresay but actual legal proof that the PIF is part of the piracy, then what has that got to do with the takeover of NUFC? And is there actual physical evidence for this? Or is it, again, purely opinionated articles based on what someone thinks is likely or not? If there was any hard, proven evidence it would surely have resulted in a conviction, either with the French case or elsewhere? It seems to be just a lot of people spouting what they 'think' might have happened so far, I've not seen anything solid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Are you’ll listening premier league? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/roma-chiefs-make-contact-saudi-22029593 Daily star I know but it highlights a point a few have made regarding why the premier league would want to approve for financial reasons. Out of all the articles that’s been written, this is the most laughable and most obviously clickbait of them all. I'm all in on Staveley, Reuben Brothers and PIF now so whoever they takeover is my club. Totti is an icon of mine anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 BeoutQ is not simply a channel. Although the service as a set top box is not operational since last September and apparently the ArabSat satellites have stopped rebroadcasting beIN channels, BeoutQ has evolved into a package-based platform, which relies on "3rd-party" apps for it's content - IPTV, torrent streaming etc. Similar to Kodi, except it's based on Android and is not open source. Unfortunately, like the Khashoggi murder, the evidence of direct involvement of Senior officials is overwhelming. There's no doubt that beoutQ is (was) indeed a huge-scale piracy service, backed and most likely initiated and funded by members of the Saudi Royal Family. https://piracymonitor.org/the-impact-of-beoutq-piracy-on-bein-media/ That's a fairly recent article on beoutq. It includes other reference stories on the service and a claim that it was stopped in preparation for the bid to buy us. Here's the site, made by the beIN fuckers to push their side of the story (pretty convincingly): https://beoutq.tv/ And that's the technical investigation that FIFA, UEFA, the PL, Serie A, La Liga etc ordered as part of the court case in France - which btw has confirmed that the stolen BeIN content was transmitted through Arabsat satellites: https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/uefaorg/General/02/62/31/36/2623136_DOWNLOAD.pdf And how is tied to the PIF which is a separate legal entity. Unless there is a proven link, not heresay but actual legal proof that the PIF is part of the piracy, then what has that got to do with the takeover of NUFC? The legal proof can only be collected by Saudi authorities so that might explain why there's a lack of it. I guess the complexities arise because PIF is not just some company. It is by definition state-owned, just like the Saudi National Bank for example - a sovereign wealth fund chaired by the crown prince of an absolute monarchy that practices Sharia Law. This combination opens up various possibilities for influence of power. For example, MBS's dad - King Salman - can order to kill the Sheff U owner if he feels like it and that would not be against Saudi law. As with every other issue with Saudi Arabia, it's not really a question of what can be proven, it's how determined people are to say no to their money. Which is why, I'm ultimately optimistic that it will go through.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butcher Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Might be Giggs, but I enjoyed this. Can’t wait for it to become official. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Southamptons took so long because he tried to buy it through his company at first, who weren't viewed as financially secure enough. So he then bought it as a private individual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Beginnings Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Southamptons took so long because he tried to buy it through his company at first, who weren't viewed as financially secure enough. So he then bought it as a private individual. Gao had also been involved in 2 corruption cases prior to his takeover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Southamptons took so long because he tried to buy it through his company at first, who weren't viewed as financially secure enough. So he then bought it as a private individual. Gao had also been involved in 2 corruption cases prior to his takeover Please please please, if this deal fucks up change your username to "Same old shit" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Might be Giggs, but I enjoyed this. Can’t wait for it to become official. Think Maguire summarises pretty well, without really offering anything new. You can’t help but feel positive after listening IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 BeoutQ is not simply a channel. Although the service as a set top box is not operational since last September and apparently the ArabSat satellites have stopped rebroadcasting beIN channels, BeoutQ has evolved into a package-based platform, which relies on "3rd-party" apps for it's content - IPTV, torrent streaming etc. Similar to Kodi, except it's based on Android and is not open source. Unfortunately, like the Khashoggi murder, the evidence of direct involvement of Senior officials is overwhelming. There's no doubt that beoutQ is (was) indeed a huge-scale piracy service, backed and most likely initiated and funded by members of the Saudi Royal Family. https://piracymonitor.org/the-impact-of-beoutq-piracy-on-bein-media/ That's a fairly recent article on beoutq. It includes other reference stories on the service and a claim that it was stopped in preparation for the bid to buy us. Here's the site, made by the beIN f***ers to push their side of the story (pretty convincingly): https://beoutq.tv/ And that's the technical investigation that FIFA, UEFA, the PL, Serie A, La Liga etc ordered as part of the court case in France - which btw has confirmed that the stolen BeIN content was transmitted through Arabsat satellites: https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/uefaorg/General/02/62/31/36/2623136_DOWNLOAD.pdf And how is tied to the PIF which is a separate legal entity. Unless there is a proven link, not heresay but actual legal proof that the PIF is part of the piracy, then what has that got to do with the takeover of NUFC? The legal proof can only be collected by Saudi authorities so that might explain why there's a lack of it. I guess the complexities arise because PIF is not just some company. It is by definition state-owned, just like the Saudi National Bank for example - a sovereign wealth fund chaired by the crown prince of an absolute monarchy that practices Sharia Law. This combination opens up various possibilities for influence of power. For example, MBS's dad - King Salman - can order to kill the Sheff U owner if he feels like it and that would not be against Saudi law. As with every other issue with Saudi Arabia, it's not really a question of what can be proven, it's how determined people are to say no to their money. Which is why, I'm ultimately optimistic that it will go through.. Convenient then for anyone who wants to throw aspersions, if all they have to do is say something happened rather than prove it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Might be Giggs, but I enjoyed this. Can’t wait for it to become official. Feel a bit calmer after listening to that. The only caveat I would add is that if the rumours of this last minute document are true then nobody knows what is in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t00nraider Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Hopefully there can't be any more 'evidence' and this is going to be the last delay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Might be Giggs, but I enjoyed this. Can’t wait for it to become official. Thanks for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 PIF v Giles Watling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 For the last couple of months, whenever I have read the latest posts on this thread and then gone back to the main 'list of threads' page, there has ALWAYS been a new posting made in the time it took me to do that, always. Today (07.45 on 15th May 2020) is the first time that has not happened, in all that time, and also (when I look for the last post made) it is actually from OVER SEVEN HOURS AGO. It feels like people may have just given up . . . this has just "gone on for too long"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 There just isn't really that much more to discuss. The bid is in the same place it was a month ago by all accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Right.... howay.......you've had your fun ......let's get this done today eh!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Nothing gets done on a Friday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 For the last couple of months, whenever I have read the latest posts on this thread and then gone back to the main 'list of threads' page, there has ALWAYS been a new posting made in the time it took me to do that, always. Today (07.45 on 15th May 2020) is the first time that has not happened, in all that time, and also (when I look for the last post made) it is actually from OVER SEVEN HOURS AGO. It feels like people may have just given up . . . this has just "gone on for too long"? Aww fuck, I guess it's off then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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