Disco Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Froggy said: He hasn't been fully fit in months. We just don't have good options to replace him. Martial has been woefully out of form and Dan James is a championship footballer. The Sancho signing would add serious depth and quality to the squad. Ole not making any subs until late tonight is poor, but it also shows his complete lack of trust with the backup players. Got to hold the manager responsible for that. Yes James is a level down compared to Rashwood but at least he’d knock it and run which is where the former both got their limited success from. Wasn’t like either were doing well or Villarreal looked like scoring again. If you sign Sancho and a midfielder it should be boom or bust for Solskjaer. No hiding ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Froggy said: But on other forums we're being told to sack our manager because we haven't won a trophy in years. It's a hard knock life. Which forums? I'm glad you have Ole and the fans love him because though he has improved a bit, he still hasn't won a trophy and better managers could get a better tune from that squad. So from a hating Man Utd point of view, i hope he stays as long as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Fucking hell, Emery. His missus must promise him the dirty stuff if he wins the Europa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 On a side note, this format BT and Sky are using of having ex players not doing punditry but actually supporting their former teams is massively disrespectful to the other team, last night was just ManUTV. Sky are the same with Carra and Neville screaming when their team score, more evidence that the big 6 have a total strangle hold on the English game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Disco said: Got to hold the manager responsible for that. Yes James is a level down compared to Rashwood but at least he’d knock it and run which is where the former both got their limited success from. Wasn’t like either were doing well or Villarreal looked like scoring again. If you sign Sancho and a midfielder it should be boom or bust for Solskjaer. No hiding ground. Oh we do. It's boom or bust for Ole anyway next season. He's had his time. We need trophies now or at least a challenge on all fronts. 12 points behind won't cut it next season, but this season was progress once again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) Get in Villarreal. Can’t stand Man Utd, even if they were playing the Jimmy Savile Celebrity Nonce XI I’d still want them to lose. Sorry Froggy, you seem like a canny lad but I despise your club. Edited May 27, 2021 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Get in Villarreal. Can’t stand Man Utd, even if they were playing the Jimmy Savile Celebrity Nonce XI I’d still want them to lose. Sorry Froggy, you seem like a canny lad but I despise your club. You're well within your rights to. Doesn't bother me at all. I would be a little bit worried if anyone except Man United's didn't want Villarreal to win that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Glad Villarreal won. For years they have had this golden age but never been able to cap it with a trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Anyway, on reflection: The importance of Maguire can't be understated. He has had his wobbly moments over the last couple of years but for the last 6 months or so he has a giant in defence for us. The games he has been unable to play our defending has been Championship standard and has been brutally exposed. Right wing isn't the priority anymore, centre back is. Bailly and Lindelof are OK when partnered with a leader like Maguire, but together they are a joke. Ole's game management has been under scrutiny for a while and the evidence is clear he needs to work on it. Tactics I generally think he gets spot on, but some of his decisions over subs has been baffling this season. It's one things to not trust your bench, but you can't expect players who've already played 50-60 games to be as effective after 100 minutes. Rashford was shocking anyway, but became completely non-existent when they freshened up their full backs. After they made 5 subs, they started controlling the game, and that was to do with fitness and fitness alone. It was almost like Ole was afraid to make a change after dominating the second half. In extra time the tenacity was completely gone and we seemed happy to play for pens, which is ridiculous given how superior we were/are to Villarreal. De Gea? Do me a favour. 375k a week and had the worst penalty performance I've ever seen. He doesn't even commit to the dive. He just flops to one side. Embarrassing. We don't deserve Cavani. A 34 year old who hadn't played football in 6 months before we signed him was showing the most desire on the pitch. If it wasn't for him and McTominay we'd have had a team full of 2/10's. It would have been nice to win a trophy, but at least our champions league qualification wasn't riding on that. Would have been beyond angry if it had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 44 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Can’t stand Man Utd, even if they were playing the Jimmy Savile Celebrity Nonce XI I’d still want them to lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I thought Man U played with the shackles on last night, its how I think England will play this summer, no commitment to attack and with a midfield that sits to deep relying on great players performing on the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ben said: I thought Man U played with the shackles on last night, its how I think England will play this summer, no commitment to attack and with a midfield that sits to deep relying on great players performing on the day. Tbf both manyoo and inglund have shite midfields Attacking players in abundance but not the players behind them to make it work. If Southgate had any bollocks he'd go full Pep and just try to kill teams with possession playing Grealish and the lot of them, leave Rice to try and defend with a back 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 The keepers were both horrific in the shootout mind. De Gea didn’t look like he’d save a penalty even if they were still going now. There were three or four that should’ve been comfortably saved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: Tbf both manyoo and inglund have shite midfields Attacking players in abundance but not the players behind them to make it work. If Southgate had any bollocks he'd go full Pep and just try to kill teams with possession playing Grealish and the lot of them, leave Rice to try and defend with a back 4. Southgate isn't Pep Guardiola. That would end in disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Froggy said: Southgate isn't Pep Guardiola. That would end in disaster. Instead of a whimper, good I'm all in. back 5 greal rice mount sanco (or whoever) kane foden that'll beat most of the shite in the euros hands down just by being better than them, would rather take my chances it works against the better teams than play safe like we do every fucking time and still fail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: Instead of a whimper, good I'm all in. back 5 greal rice mount sanco (or whoever) kane foden that'll beat most of the shite in the euros hands down just by being better than them, would rather take my chances it works against the better teams than play safe like we do every fucking time and still fail But you need to shoehorn Henderson in because he’s Henderson and plays for Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: Instead of a whimper, good I'm all in. back 5 greal rice mount sanco (or whoever) kane foden that'll beat most of the shite in the euros hands down just by being better than them, would rather take my chances it works against the better teams than play safe like we do every fucking time and still fail That’d be my front 6 I think, depending on the opposition might need to sacrifice Grealish or Sancho for Henderson or even Bellingham. 6 months ago it’s have been Ward-Prowse for me but not sure what his form’s been like when Southampton turned to shit. Edited May 27, 2021 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: That’d be my front 6 I think, depending on the opposition might need to sacrifice Grealish or Sancho for Henderson. Maybe, maybe. I think you'd have to see how the system worked and decide but I'd be tempted to let it play out myself, that front 6 could beat anyone on the planet on their day, why should we make the assumption that their day won't be the day we need it? It's why we're perennial bottle-jobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Does Unai Emery mind a Europa League win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 A couple of years back, we had very few players who were decent on the ball, but Rice and Phillips have come on a lot as DMs this year. You could play Mount beside one or the other and if you wanted to be more offensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Kaizero said: He'll be having the time of his life with these reactions, he's fishing in a barrel filled with fish Just throwing it out there, but perhaps other posters are enjoying the reactions they are getting from him? Suppose it just depends which way you want to look at it? I've actually come around to the thinking that Ole is better than people originally thought, but it's sweet watching him bottle the final, I can't disguise that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 @Froggy if ole gets the boot would you like to see the club appoint another club legend? I never saw ole lastings this long in all honestly given his record at other clubs so fair do's. But Steve Bruce has tons of experience knows the club inside out and Gary/Ole/Keane love his style Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrovianmag Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, astraguy said: @Froggy if ole gets the boot would you like to see the club appoint another club legend? I never saw ole lastings this long in all honestly given his record at other clubs so fair do's. But Steve Bruce has tons of experience knows the club inside out and Gary/Ole/Keane love his style Wishful thiniing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 They not punt Ole, he bends the knee for the good of the club. Long as he's getting them in the CL money every year he's golden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, jarrovianmag said: Wishful thiniing I can't see why not his ex team mates rate him so highly and ole was never in the picture when the job came up, worth a shot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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