Tiresias Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Again, that handball wasn't a clear and obvious error. Disagree, he clearly controlled the ball with his hand which then resulted in a goal. It's not one of those mad deflections and the team benefitted from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Isnt that the wrong interpretation of the rules now? Doesn't the handball have to come immediately before the goal is scored, id argue Laportes shot comes in a different phase after the Jesus handball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Can see Stirling on for Torres in second half, totally ineffective out wide the lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Less sure on that but i'd be incensed if that goal was given against us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Again, that handball wasn't a clear and obvious error. Disagree, he clearly controlled the ball with his hand which then resulted in a goal. It's not one of those mad deflections and the team benefitted from it. Still not sure where on his arm it hit though... could’ve been his sleeve 🤷♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Isnt that the wrong interpretation of the rules now? Doesn't the handball have to come immediately before the goal is scored, id argue Laportes shot comes in a different phase after the Jesus handball I don't even know what the rules are now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I thought any touch on the hand in the buildup to a goal is handball now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Again, that handball wasn't a clear and obvious error. Disagree, he clearly controlled the ball with his hand which then resulted in a goal. It's not one of those mad deflections and the team benefitted from it. Still not sure where on his arm it hit though... could’ve been his sleeve 🤷♂️ Maybe but i thought you could see the lower forearm recoil from the impact of it a bit. I think he was trying to shoulder it down and it bouched from shoulder down onto arm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Spurs are Newcastling this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Good point on BT actually, VAR is meant to be for identifying clear and obvious errors, not to get the correct decision. So under that rule, he shouldn’t have changed his mind. That's correct, but it hasn't been used like that since it's been introduced. Yep. Another example of not applying the rules I’m not 100% sure if that is a rule though Was that not a buzz word used ages ago it’s moved on from that- everyone says this clear and obvious thing but it isn’t actually a rule. It actually just gets used to change any decision if possibly wrong - otherwise why would they even have the monitors on the side Might be wrong like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I thought any touch on the hand in the buildup to a goal is handball now. Was changed, don't ask to what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Clear and obvious is complete bullshit as it's impossible to say what really is clear and obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Good point on BT actually, VAR is meant to be for identifying clear and obvious errors, not to get the correct decision. So under that rule, he shouldn’t have changed his mind. That's correct, but it hasn't been used like that since it's been introduced. Yep. Another example of not applying the rules I’m not 100% sure if that is a rule though Was that not a buzz word used ages ago it’s moved on from that- everyone says this clear and obvious thing but it isn’t actually a rule. It actually just gets used to change any decision if possibly wrong - otherwise why would they even have the monitors on the side Might be wrong like It is clear and obvious according to the PL. https://www.premierleague.com/news/1297392 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Good point on BT actually, VAR is meant to be for identifying clear and obvious errors, not to get the correct decision. So under that rule, he shouldn’t have changed his mind. That's correct, but it hasn't been used like that since it's been introduced. Yep. Another example of not applying the rules I’m not 100% sure if that is a rule though Was that not a buzz word used ages ago it’s moved on from that- everyone says this clear and obvious thing but it isn’t actually a rule. It actually just gets used to change any decision if possibly wrong - otherwise why would they even have the monitors on the side Might be wrong like yeah it's all a mess. I'm honestly in favour of VAR being on a limited number of appeals from either manager to reduce the number of really pedantic calls same as cricket. I also think penalties should only be awarded for handballs that prevent a goal not some random bounce at edge of area. Stopping a goal being awarded when a ball is controlled by an arm feels it working as intented this time though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Good point on BT actually, VAR is meant to be for identifying clear and obvious errors, not to get the correct decision. So under that rule, he shouldn’t have changed his mind. That's correct, but it hasn't been used like that since it's been introduced. Yep. Another example of not applying the rules I’m not 100% sure if that is a rule though Was that not a buzz word used ages ago it’s moved on from that- everyone says this clear and obvious thing but it isn’t actually a rule. It actually just gets used to change any decision if possibly wrong - otherwise why would they even have the monitors on the side Might be wrong like yeah it's all a mess. I'm honestly in favour of VAR being on a limited number of appeals from either manager to reduce the number of really pedantic calls same as cricket. I also think penalties should only be awarded for handballs that prevent a goal not some random bounce at edge of area. Stopping a goal being awarded when a ball is controlled by an arm feels it working as intented this time though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Isnt that the wrong interpretation of the rules now? Doesn't the handball have to come immediately before the goal is scored, id argue Laportes shot comes in a different phase after the Jesus handball That’s what I thought too. If Laporte had handballed it then it gets disallowed whereas last year it would’ve been if Jesus had handballed it. At least that’s what I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Is it just me or are all the good goal scorers at the moment proponents of either passing it in or wacking into top corner, or nice curlers nothing wrong with any of course but feels like there aren't many going for awesome dainty lobs into the net Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Had a slow start to his Spurs career but I really rate Ndombele Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Had a slow start to his Spurs career but I really rate Ndombele Got mad skills but still looks absolutely fucked after 10 minutes Pep should’ve signed HBA to play instead of Mahrez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I'm sure if spurs win this it will be hailed as a mourinho masterclass. Still pisses me off that Rafa got so much stick for how he set up against Man City with a far inferior squad to what this spurs team is. Weaker City team aswell now compared to back then. That win when rondon I think got one of the goals, was tactically magnificent. I vaguely remember Neville very publically slagged Rafa off for not "having a go" more when we narrowly lost in a previous game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Is it just me or are all the good goal scorers at the moment proponents of either passing it in or wacking into top corner, or nice curlers nothing wrong with any of course but feels like there aren't many going for awesome dainty lobs into the net Too many Dinho Lads about for casual finishes like dinky lobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 City are bang average this year. Nobody in midfield at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Celtic failed to win again today, Lennon has to be for the chop soon surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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