The College Dropout Posted August 29, 2025 Share Posted August 29, 2025 Ashworth had a succession plan that involved selling atleast one of Bruno or Joelinton last summer. We don’t qualify for the CL or win the league cup without either tbf. Our squad is so small we don’t have the luxury of loaning out good youngsters or buybacks. If we can loan you out and you do well - we can probably sell you. Anderson and Minteh will end up looking like bargains. Anderson already is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 6 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Ashworth had a succession plan that involved selling atleast one of Bruno or Joelinton last summer. We don’t qualify for the CL or win the league cup without either tbf. Our squad is so small we don’t have the luxury of loaning out good youngsters or buybacks. If we can loan you out and you do well - we can probably sell you. Anderson and Minteh will end up looking like bargains. Anderson already is. It was genuinely awful business we did with our firesale, we have lost our on many millions. However the other side of the coin is who would we have not bought to avoid it and that's a very tricky answer. I must say though, if our owners weren't so half assed and fully in it we could have ar least done more sponsors and held onto one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 29 minutes ago, r0cafella said: It was genuinely awful business we did with our firesale, we have lost our on many millions. However the other side of the coin is who would we have not bought to avoid it and that's a very tricky answer. I must say though, if our owners weren't so half assed and fully in it we could have ar least done more sponsors and held onto one of them. Whilst this is true, the millions we gained by not having a 10-point deduction and achieving Champions League football has probably made up for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 11 minutes ago, John P said: Whilst this is true, the millions we gained by not having a 10-point deduction and achieving Champions League football has probably made up for it Absolutely that is indeed the other side of this coin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 Bemused by people ignoring reality and still ploughing ahead 😂 Elliott Anderson would not be getting an England call up if he stayed. True, the club (Staveley??) fucked up the PSR math but the kid wouldn't have progressed to where he is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Bemused by people ignoring reality and still ploughing ahead 😂 Elliott Anderson would not be getting an England call up if he stayed. True, the club (Staveley??) fucked up the PSR math but the kid wouldn't have progressed to where he is now. Exactly - not only would he be on the bench so much here but Nuno at Forrest seem to have the same record as Howe has of improving players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 The whole time he was here i actually thought he was Scottish! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 7 minutes ago, MagMal said: The whole time he was here i actually thought he was Scottish! He always had the choice but I read somewhere he always held out for England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 Buy him back when Joelinton eventually leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearljam10 Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 Just now, The Butcher said: Buy him back when Joelinton eventually leaves. Hopefully we'll buy him back next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 1 hour ago, Groundhog63 said: Bemused by people ignoring reality and still ploughing ahead 😂 Elliott Anderson would not be getting an England call up if he stayed. True, the club (Staveley??) fucked up the PSR math but the kid wouldn't have progressed to where he is now. I firmly believe he would’ve of. Like we’ve seen with Tino, Hall, Burn, they’ve all been capped under Howe. Don’t know why people think Anderson would not develop under Howe. Said it before, the season before he was sold he played a lot for us, was looking good (but still development needed) when he was playing the LCM / LW role. He just got an untimely injury which then saw Miley get minutes during middle part of season, but Anderson was back for 2nd part of season and that was why Ashworth was looking at Joelinton being an option to move and Anderson the successor. Howe was gutted to see him go as he himself likely felt the same, and 12 months later we’ve spent £39m in signing Ramsey to replace Anderson. End of 23-24, he was ahead of Hall and Tino in the game time and trust stakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sibierski said: I firmly believe he would’ve of. Like we’ve seen with Tino, Hall, Burn, they’ve all been capped under Howe. Don’t know why people think Anderson would not develop under Howe. Said it before, the season before he was sold he played a lot for us, was looking good (but still development needed) when he was playing the LCM / LW role. He just got an untimely injury which then saw Miley get minutes during middle part of season, but Anderson was back for 2nd part of season and that was why Ashworth was looking at Joelinton being an option to move and Anderson the successor. Howe was gutted to see him go as he himself likely felt the same, and 12 months later we’ve spent £39m in signing Ramsey to replace Anderson. End of 23-24, he was ahead of Hall and Tino in the game time and trust stakes. Quote the bit where I, or anyone else for that matter, suggested Eddie wouldn't have developed Elliott? You're deluded, however, if you think Elliott Anderson's improvement/progression would've been equally meteoric had he stayed. It's fanciful bollox. He's better than Sean Yates so got straight in there for a team that played a way that suits his style. Edited August 30, 2025 by Groundhog63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 1 minute ago, Groundhog63 said: Quote the bit where I, or anyone else for that matter, suggested Eddie wouldn't have developed Elliott? You're deluded, however, if you think Elliott Anderson's improvement/progression would've been equally meteoric had he stayed. It's fanciful bollox. He's better than Sean Yates so got straight in there for a team that played a way that suits his style. It’s not delusion, it’s seeing the qualities he had, progression he was making that season and confidence he was going into that summer as 4th choice CM that was firmly pushing Joelinton to take his starting place. Guy was also persuaded by Southgate leading into 2024 not to join Scotland because the FA were keen on him. Many people knew the ability was there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, Sibierski said: It’s not delusion, it’s seeing the qualities he had, progression he was making that season and confidence he was going into that summer as 4th choice CM that was firmly pushing Joelinton to take his starting place. Guy was also persuaded by Southgate leading into 2024 not to join Scotland because the FA were keen on him. Many people knew the ability was there. Nobody’s doubting Eddie’s ability or saying he wouldn’t have improved but he’s gone to a club that suits him and he’s playing every minute - that’s massive and we couldn’t have offered him that, I’m with Groundhog on this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 5 minutes ago, Sibierski said: It’s not delusion, it’s seeing the qualities he had, progression he was making that season and confidence he was going into that summer as 4th choice CM that was firmly pushing Joelinton to take his starting place. Guy was also persuaded by Southgate leading into 2024 not to join Scotland because the FA were keen on him. Many people knew the ability was there. I think, and always have, that he is a great player. I've posted before, I know some of his family and was told he saw himself as a CM even whilst playing for Bristol Rovers. Was in no doubt he had the gifts. However, and here's the rub of the fantasy, he got to play 39 games for Forest. In his preferred position. In a team that suited his playing style. This "filling in for BigJoe" stuff is laughable. Willock got 16 games, Miley 4, most as sub. Anderson wouldn't have blossomed as quick and Howe is miffed because he recognised a longer term asset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 Who’s better Anderson or Wharton? I know he’s a local boy but if we had the choice I think I’d prefer Wharton Love how well he’s done though, glad he nailed down a position and became indispensable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 (edited) Always thought Wharton seemed like a bit of a boring Spanish DM regen, would much prefer the all action Anderson personally, but I think Wharton will end up at a bigger club. Edited August 30, 2025 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted August 30, 2025 Share Posted August 30, 2025 26 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Always thought Wharton seemed like a bit of a boring Spanish DM regen, would much prefer the all action Anderson personally, but I think Wharton will end up at a bigger club. Wharton's the better player. Really rate Anderson tho and it's a shame he had to sold when he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted September 6, 2025 Share Posted September 6, 2025 (edited) Expected to make his England debut against Andorra according to BBC Edited September 6, 2025 by FloydianMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted September 6, 2025 Share Posted September 6, 2025 Hopefully he plays his game and not get bogged down with our mundane passing game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted September 6, 2025 Share Posted September 6, 2025 Starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted September 6, 2025 Share Posted September 6, 2025 Only potential danger is he gets so good someone bids for him soon. Otherwise he’s deffo coming home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 6, 2025 Share Posted September 6, 2025 Don't think this game can be used as a yardstick for anyone tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted September 6, 2025 Share Posted September 6, 2025 Best player on the pitch today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted September 6, 2025 Share Posted September 6, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HawK said: Don't think this game can be used as a yardstick for anyone tbh But against Leeds he was amazing 😁 Edited September 6, 2025 by Ronson333 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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