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1 minute ago, Elric said:

There's no way we get him on a free like, doubt he has the temperament to stare down the mad Greek and run down his contract :lol:

He's from Whitley Bay man. Ever had a night out there? All the cunts ever do is stare you out. 

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4 hours ago, STM said:

Not worth 60m :lol:

 

If he keeps doing what hes doing, one of the cartel will be in for him at 100m. 

 

I could see Man Utd in for him.


Said it other month, him being in England side and being surrounded by top players, will attract the top clubs. Our window to get him back is probably Jan or next summer (if ground work is done now). After that, he’s off to a top side.
 

Like Man City literally need that type of midfielder and ticks the HG quota they’re running low on too. 

 

Couldn’t care if he cost £60m+ add ons. He’s a CM for many seasons.

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51 minutes ago, andycap said:

Give them Willock lascelles and money. 

So 45 million plus them two. 

 

 

 

Forest are no longer that kind of team who want another teams scraps. They are ambitious and probably looking to emulate or overtake us before too long. Neither of them would get in to their squad. 

 

Lascelles and Willock are more the Fulhams or Brentford level. 

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2 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

Honest question, assuming we had a choice and both players wanted to come and we had offers accepted etc who would we rather, Anderson or Wharton? 


Anderson for me.

 

Wharton will be better player when both alongside each other at different clubs, but we’d get that extra 10% from Anderson with it being his club, like we get 110% out of Burn so his levels are way higher then it would be if he was playing elsewhere.

 

HG for Europe is also priceless, as it means better squad elsewhere.

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Just now, Sibierski said:


Anderson for me.

 

Wharton will be better player when both alongside each other at different clubs, but we’d get that extra 10% from Anderson with it being his club, like we get 110% out of Burn so his levels are way higher then it would be if he was playing elsewhere.

 

HG for Europe is also priceless, as it means better squad elsewhere.

Very good points and I agree in hindsight. Wharton is currently the better player but I like the intangibles element. Wharton would probably one day Isak us for Liverpool whereas I don't think Anderson ever would

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49 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

Forest are no longer that kind of team who want another teams scraps. They are ambitious and probably looking to emulate or overtake us before too long. Neither of them would get in to their squad. 

 

Lascelles and Willock are more the Fulhams or Brentford level. 

Nah Willock  they like pacy runners and lascelles is forest born and bred. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, TRon said:

 

Howe never wanted to let him go. I don't really blame the club either, we had no choice, as far as I'm concerned even Minteh looks like he is going to be worth more than the £35m fee we got for him, although at least that wasn't as much of a steal for Brighton.

 

But the point is, we had no need to sell them, it was only to satisfy the PSR conditions which impose fake budgets on ambitious clubs. It's scandalous really, that's why I think we should be making more noise. Maybe coordinate with Villa and Forest who have been equally screwed by the cartel. 

Fuck knows why we didn't put a sell on clause in them deals or a buy back for a set amount. Could've said 50 million and I'm sure the buying club would've agreed at the time. 

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Fair play to Eddie Howe as well for spotting where he’d best operate. He was a winger or a 10 and it was Howe who moved him back to that left centre mid position, I vaguely remember him playing the Lwb role once. 
 

He never looked like he had that burst of pace for those more advanced roles. 

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1 hour ago, LFEE said:

Not sure why we are having the revisionism. He’s not going to gain any pace over the coming years. Was noticeable how he struggled to get back behind the ball when he was caught out. We will need much better than him in 2-3yrs times unless things have went drastically wrong.

 

Still wanting him to do well but I’ve not seen any difference in him. Give him time on the ball and he’s a nice player with some good footwork and balance. 

 

I thought when played centrally he was able to see much more of the ball and from that position able to dictate play which he never really got the chance to do here. But it's a fair point about pace, Serbia looked really lethargic, so the question could be asked how his game would stand up in the PL. I know he had a good season at Forest, but they play quite deep so he gets a lot more space to work in than he would in our formation.

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Aye he was in the Forest academy. He used to go for two afternoons in the week and miss school with a few other kids but they did get pelters from their classmates due to the rivalry.

 

His family are Derby through and through so I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up there next.

 

 

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3 hours ago, LFEE said:

Not sure why we are having the revisionism. He’s not going to gain any pace over the coming years. Was noticeable how he struggled to get back behind the ball when he was caught out. We will need much better than him in 2-3yrs times unless things have went drastically wrong.

 

Still wanting him to do well but I’ve not seen any difference in him. Give him time on the ball and he’s a nice player with some good footwork and balance. 

Did you expect him to become an England international a year after leaving us?

I didn't see it. He played so well, I think it's his position to lose right now.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Did you expect him to become an England international a year after leaving us?

I didn't see it. He played so well, I think it's his position to lose right now.

 

 

 


With Bellingham and Palmer injured and Foden out of form he’s grabbed his chance from what should be the conveyor belt of U21’s.

 

If he’s starting in the World Cup I’ll doff my cap to him as wouldn’t have seen that happening.

 

Ironically if he’s stays fit then his next competition could come from Ramsey.

 

He still wouldn’t get into our midfield even on current form IMO so there has been no great leap that others are discussing. 
 

Maybe just a better fit to a different team and system.

 

 

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39 minutes ago, LFEE said:


With Bellingham and Palmer injured and Foden out of form he’s grabbed his chance from what should be the conveyor belt of U21’s.

 

If he’s starting in the World Cup I’ll doff my cap to him as wouldn’t have seen that happening.

 

Ironically if he’s stays fit then his next competition could come from Ramsey.

 

He still wouldn’t get into our midfield even on current form IMO so there has been no great leap that others are discussing. 
 

Maybe just a better fit to a different team and system.

 

 

 

He doesn't play in any of their positions though. Anderson's competition is Wharton, Henderson, Angel Gomes, Gallagher... I think that's it. You can make an argument for Jude or James (Tuchel played him there for Chelsea) I guess, but not the others.

 

If everyone was fit and the World Cup was next month - Anderson has a fantastic chance of starting. He makes the squad with ease.

 

Unless Howe switches things up drastically, Ramsey will play LCM/8, LW or AM. Looks like Tuchel is trying to find more of a 6 to allow Rice to play more of an 8. Anderson is Bruno-lite as a 6. Ramsey can't/won't play that role for us imo.

 

In our squad, Anderson would be a better 4th man than what we have - including Ramsey. Ramsey is only really a Joelinton alternative (which is grand as Joelinton can't stay fit long) or an upgrade on Willock. You can play Ramsey at 10 or LW but that's not really his position. Anderson can play the Joelinton role but also the deeper role.

 

It would've cost close to Elanga money to get Anderson back in the summer so it was a non-starter.

 

Still delighted for him. He wouldn't have progressed so much if he had stayed.

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I think Anderson will continue to develop the 8 side of his game; his dribbling, aggressive passing, pressing and attacking style lends himself to playing a Howe role. I think in time he would actually be the perfect heir to Bruno's role and noticed he was playing centre-left, centre, and centre-right most recently. Time will tell what big Ange does to him, which could go either way. 

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7 minutes ago, Kanj said:

I think Anderson will continue to develop the 8 side of his game; his dribbling, aggressive passing, pressing and attacking style lends himself to playing a Howe role. I think in time he would actually be the perfect heir to Bruno's role and noticed he was playing centre-left, centre, and centre-right most recently. Time will tell what big Ange does to him, which could go either way. 

Could tank his value and cause mass injury the prick.

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22 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Could tank his value and cause mass injury the prick.

 

I was mostly rooting for Forest (as long as they scalped teams around us, dropped points to us, and fell off in our favor late season...) because of Chris Wood and Anderson (and still will) but I will get very angry if Ange fucks with them. 

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3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

He doesn't play in any of their positions though. Anderson's competition is Wharton, Henderson, Angel Gomes, Gallagher... I think that's it. You can make an argument for Jude or James (Tuchel played him there for Chelsea) I guess, but not the others.

 

If everyone was fit and the World Cup was next month - Anderson has a fantastic chance of starting. He makes the squad with ease.

 

Unless Howe switches things up drastically, Ramsey will play LCM/8, LW or AM. Looks like Tuchel is trying to find more of a 6 to allow Rice to play more of an 8. Anderson is Bruno-lite as a 6. Ramsey can't/won't play that role for us imo.

 

In our squad, Anderson would be a better 4th man than what we have - including Ramsey. Ramsey is only really a Joelinton alternative (which is grand as Joelinton can't stay fit long) or an upgrade on Willock. You can play Ramsey at 10 or LW but that's not really his position. Anderson can play the Joelinton role but also the deeper role.

 

It would've cost close to Elanga money to get Anderson back in the summer so it was a non-starter.

 

Still delighted for him. He wouldn't have progressed so much if he had stayed.


No offence but I’ve watched England play a lifetime and yet to see them pick round pegs for round holes in what must be 30-40yrs. 
 

I do appreciate your point but it never seems to equate to England midfield selection logic :lol:

 

He’s getting a game due to injuries and poor form of higher profile players.
 

To contradict myself I am hopeful Tuchel is the manager to buck the trend though 🤞🏻
 

 

PS Might help Anderson that Tuchel’s mother clearly doesn’t like Bellingham :lol:

 

 

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20 hours ago, kingxlnc said:

Honest question, assuming we had a choice and both players wanted to come and we had offers accepted etc who would we rather, Anderson or Wharton? 

Would be Wharton for me, on my wish list for a long while. That said, so was Kalvin Phillips (…admittedly before Pep ruined him) so what do I know. 

 

 

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