Guest HTT II Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kanji said: I think the sale is heavily fueled by fund raising to sign a bigger name and they aren’t getting much attention on some of the other lads. But Kaka had a good post explaining the Arsenal tactical approach versus just saying “he’s not suited to a more tactical game at Arsenal” like he’s thick and just a dribbler or something. Oh aye, Kaka explained it well, but he just doesn’t fit their system, tactics and game plan/style at all where as he fits ours ideally, and that’s without any real tactics, gameplan or style from us. Again, he’s ideally suited to us. Edited August 9, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 The thing about Arsenal is, they always try and walk it in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Is he worth the price? It seems to be a lot of money for a player that's had 1 good season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I think the money is about right for a 21 year old English player who impressed last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, dinotheprehistoricgeordie said: Is he worth the price? It seems to be a lot of money for a player that's had 1 good season. English premium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, joeyt said: I think the money is about right for a 21 year old English player who impressed last season Yeah, think it's a good deal and maybe even a steal at that age. There's a lot of attributes there to work with. His pace, ability to carry the ball, general passing and knack for finishing already look pretty good, and he has a lot of room to grow still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Somewhat surprisedLiverpool arent interested. He’d fit in their system, and I think would end up a better player than Gini under Klopp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, dinotheprehistoricgeordie said: Is he worth the price? It seems to be a lot of money for a player that's had 1 good season. It’s hard to work out exactly what the going rate is for players since we as a club are so detached from the economics of the wider football world. £20m is probably fuck all nowadays but for us it’s astronomical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) Probably a big fee for anyone outside the Super League 6 & Villa with the Grealish millions at the minute. Only Brighton (Mwepu £20.3m) & Leicester (Daka £23m) outside those 7 have spent more than £20m on a single player so far. Edited August 9, 2021 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, KaKa said: Yeah, think it's a good deal and maybe even a steal at that age. There's a lot of attributes there to work with. His pace, ability to carry the ball, general passing and knack for finishing already look pretty good, and he has a lot of room to grow still. I personally think he’s superb and ideal for us, in a SBR side he’d murder the numbers, as he did towards the end of last season in a shitty Steve Bruce side, he’s a throwback type of box to box goalscoring midfielder for me and again, such a likeable and really good player to have in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Rafalove said: Somewhat surprisedLiverpool arent interested. He’d fit in their system, and I think would end up a better player than Gini under Klopp Nah, totally wrong player for how they play. Even more so than for Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 How? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, HTT II said: Oh aye, Kaka explained it well, but he just doesn’t fit their system, tactics and game plan/style at all where as he fits ours ideally, and that’s without any real tactics, gameplan or style from us. Again, he’s ideally suited to us. Whether it's right or not, Arsenal need to sign some sexy names to keep other top players at the club happy/content, sell season tickets and remain commercially attractive. Willock could be the next Messi but because his name has been around for a while and he isn't coming in under a fanfare, he's expendable. They'll put the funds towards someone they can build a load of PR noise around and who might ultimately be worse than Willock but for a while at least, the sponsors and fans will be happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Rafalove said: How? If he doesn’t fit in at Arsenal how they want to play, he isn’t going to fit in at Liverpool who have even less ‘room’ for a box to box goalscoring attacking midfielder… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I understand he doesn't pass enough for arsenal but disagree about arsenal pressing high. They have sometimes but they also say quite deep at others. Aubemayang and pepe aren't suited to that game either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 They don’t play the same way though. We’ve seen from the stats, that Willock pressures the ball very well when not in possession. Which is al OST the most Important part of Klops team. They don’t necessarily need someone who can keep the ball ticking, with all the crosses they put I. The box Willock would be in his element. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Over the line yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 His high pressing was actually fantastic last season, he's very good at nicking the ball and using his strength to gain possession and pace to carry. I think he's not one of those super intricate passers that Arsenal for some reason has hard-ons over. He's also not some big name signing. Calling him half a season wonder is OK, but it's literally the only time he's been given a chance to shine and he took it. Like said before, we should be signing 15-25m players each window to upgrade the team. But we also go free, cheap, or loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 9 hours ago, thomas said: It's not like we were on the cusp of a fan revolt and this signing sets it back 2 years or anything People that were going were going, people that were staying away were staying away. this doesn't sway any significant numbers imo im not saying it was , however the general mood was awful, now it’s all good again and more forgiving if we have 3 or 4 early defeats , had Willock not signed the atmosphere would soon be toxic , it won’t be now . the numbers I agree wouldn’t change , our fan base can’t stay away in numbers to hurt , a fact , whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Probably break down when we offer him 20k a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, GWN said: im not saying it was , however the general mood was awful, now it’s all good again and more forgiving if we have 3 or 4 early defeats , had Willock not signed the atmosphere would soon be toxic , it won’t be now . the numbers I agree wouldn’t change , our fan base can’t stay away in numbers to hurt , a fact , whatever. I mildly agree, but "toxic" is probably a stretch. New season joy is always going to buy a little leeway. And I'm not sure our fan base is even capable of reaching 'toxic'. Unless toxic means mild groaning when someone misplaces a pass / bewwing at 93 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellars Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Assuming this gets done, the probability of us being relegated is now significanly lower. Maybe 1:4 instead of 1:3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 52 minutes ago, RS said: Over the line yet? Been referred to VAR, decision expected before December Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 If he agrees personal terms he'll reintegrate quickly "just git in there and run around a bit". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) Sat bored and watching this highlights video of him. Excellent control, movement and anticipation Spoiler I'm guessing if he signs, the other Marseille player we've been liked with won't happen? Not that hopes were high for more signings anyhoo Edited August 9, 2021 by Willow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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