The Prophet Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Its already pleading patience when you aren't 19th with zero wins and a finite amount of points to play for. That's before you get onto morale, player fitness, etc. We can't afford to waste through too many games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Its perfectly acceptable to utilise a caretaker, along with the remaining coaching staff. Yeah but if the Steves leave, them that leaves Smith and Jones as senior squad coaches. Smith is of course, the GK coach which would mean Jones is managing the remaining 22. With coaching staff at reserve and junior levels thin on the ground and mostly not very good......who exactly do we bring in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Lazarus said: Yeah but if the Steves leave, them that leaves Smith and Jones as senior squad coaches. Smith is of course, the GK coach which would mean Jones is managing the remaining 22. With coaching staff at reserve and junior levels thin on the ground and mostly not very good......who exactly do we bring in? We would still be better off with the above scenario then having Bruce here a day longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 They've clearly been told by who's advising them to wait until they have a replacement in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Yeah but if the Steves leave, them that leaves Smith and Jones as senior squad coaches. Smith is of course, the GK coach which would mean Jones is managing the remaining 22. With coaching staff at reserve and junior levels thin on the ground and mostly not very good......who exactly do we bring in? Jones manages the squad anyway on his own, with Bruce in the canteen buffet when he’s not at home with his slippers on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, neesy111 said: They've clearly been told by who's advising them to wait until they have a replacement in place. Sounds more like PIF have made this decision based on the media reports Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Quite worrying the lack of news regarding this now. Bruce is toxic as fuck, he needs to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 We need to get Bruce out asap. It's gonna take weeks to get the players back to proper match fitness. I'm sure Jones would at least have them training more often until a new manager comes in. Plus everyday he is here, the atmosphere will get more toxic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We would still be better off with the above scenario then having Bruce here a day longer. I agree actually. And theres got to be out of work coaches who might fancy a short term contract on a big wedge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) I understand wanting to have someone lined up but this isn't just the fans having lost patience over the past 2 years. This is extreme circumstances now. I've seen a couple of comments saying that Jones may have said behind closed doors he doesn't want to take on the caretaker role.. has that come from anywhere with any validity? If true I say sack him off as well tbh. Obviously not quite as urgently as Bruce; wait until the new team is in place.. whoever that may be. If the above Jones talk is a load of shite.. tell him he's in charge and he can give any peers a bell that are currently unattached and willing to lend a hand. Edited October 19, 2021 by wormy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, wormy said: I understand wanting to have someone lined up but this isn't just the fans having lost patience over the past 2 years. This is extreme circumstances now. It really isn't, though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Who would honestly want to come? The club now seems to be viewed as toxic, and it's becoming evident the Premier League and other clubs want to make life very difficult. The high risk of relegation won't help either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) I think the problem is, and I agree with it, I don’t think there’s any confidence that Graeme Jones would do any better of a job. Let’s be honest, apart from that slight upturn in form earlier this year, his tactics (which we have been playing) have been woeful. The owners quite clearly want a complete break. A fresh start. And it’s taking time to find the right man/team for that. We’re just going to have to have patience and trust in them making a good choice on that front. I personally think the result would be no different if Jones was in charge on Sunday, so sacking Bruce without a replacement would make zero difference in my opinion. Best just to have a complete break. Edited October 19, 2021 by Shadow Puppets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: I don’t think there’s any confidence that Graeme Jones would do any better of a job. He certainly couldn’t do any worse and Bruce going would give the whole club a lift especially the players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Yorkie said: It really isn't, though... Yorkie, no. I'm normally comforted by the fact I agree with practically everything you ever say. Agree to disagree though, I guess. There's a shit ton of time in the season, yes. But it's clearly toxic as fuck. There's no benefit to keeping him around purely because they haven't found their new man that outweighs the negatives of that toxicity imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Looking at this objectively - there is CP and Chelsea game before another international break. The owners may have thought Chelsea game not a chance of 3 points and so only CP game as potential point gainer. They may have made the decision that they are targeting get a DOF and new manager in, in the next 2 weeks so that they have the whole international break to bed in. Just a thought ( I know not a popular thought). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, gdm said: He certainly couldn’t do any worse and Bruce going would give the whole club a lift especially the players He couldn’t do any worse, sure, but I don’t understand how putting him in charge would give the players a lift. He’s been there for months and they’ve been shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Shadow Puppets said: He couldn’t do any worse, sure, but I don’t understand how putting him in charge would give the players a lift. He’s been there for months and they’ve been shit. My memory's too shit to prove it but I imagine the same could've been said about Roeder stepping in for Souness all those years ago.. I think it's just about lifting the cloud of Bruce right now over the ability of the person lifting that cloud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, wormy said: My memory's too shit to prove it but I imagine the same could've been said about Roeder stepping in for Souness all those years ago.. I think it's just about lifting the cloud of Bruce right now over the ability of the person lifting that cloud. Roeder wasn’t involved with our first team day to day. He was youth development before he stepped up. So it was a fresh face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: He couldn’t do any worse, sure, but I don’t understand how putting him in charge would give the players a lift. He’s been there for months and they’ve been shit. Coz by most accounts they can’t stand Bruce it’s not putting Jones in charge that gives them a lift it’s Bruce not being there to stink the place out that does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 There will be things going on behind the scenes which we have no idea of. I trust the new owners to make the right decision!! (just hope it's blood soon) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Struggle to think of many other clubs that have been in this situation in recent years. It's clear he's loathed by players and is glaringly incompetent, yet remains in post like a turd that won't fucking flush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I wonder if Amanda comes on this site looking for advice? She could do a lot worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Yeah but if the Steves leave, them that leaves Smith and Jones as senior squad coaches. Smith is of course, the GK coach which would mean Jones is managing the remaining 22. With coaching staff at reserve and junior levels thin on the ground and mostly not very good......who exactly do we bring in? Could we not hold onto the other Steve for the time being? Unless it's his alter ego. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 They clearly don’t perceive the Bruce we see or are concerned about the optics in the pundit and ex pro community. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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