Ketsbaia Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Yesterday morning I'd have definitely took a draw, with a Wigan defeat. But the manner of it hurts. And a club like us with players like these being in 16th place is absolutely unforgivable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 We're also joint 14th tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Doesn't change a lot. We should be nowhere near where we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 9. Our only hope is Wigan don't do their usual great escape. Come on man, we are 6 points above (7 with goal difference) with 4 games to play. Wigan have just been beaten off west ham away and still have Spurs, Arsenal and Villa to play. They have a game in hand we are not looking like we'll pick up any points with the way we're playing. Like I said it's all reliant on them not being good enough as we're clearly incapable of helping ourselves. But we are picking up points. We're just inconsistent. As for the ' can't see where our next points are coming from' theory, surely the mackems and stoke thought the same until the last 2 weekends, after being on terrible runs. Still feel constantly nervous thinking about how things will pan out though. Maybe i'm just trying to convince myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 9. Our only hope is Wigan don't do their usual great escape. Come on man, we are 6 points above (7 with goal difference) with 4 games to play. Wigan have just been beaten off west ham away and still have Spurs, Arsenal and Villa to play. They have a game in hand we are not looking like we'll pick up any points with the way we're playing. Like I said it's all reliant on them not being good enough as we're clearly incapable of helping ourselves. But we are picking up points. We're just inconsistent. As for the ' can't see where our next points are coming from' theory, surely the mackems and stoke thought the same until the last 2 weekends, after being on terrible runs. Still feel constantly nervous thinking about how things will pan out though. Maybe i'm just trying to convince myself. To me Sunderland and West Brom were the games I saw us possibly getting wins from. Now we have two extremely hard home games and we've only won 1 away game all year. It's very hard to see where the points will come from especially with teams below us showing their ability to pick up points home or away. Only QPR maybe if their mercenaries are already on holiday mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 But we are picking up points. We're just inconsistent. As for the ' can't see where our next points are coming from' theory, surely the mackems and stoke thought the same until the last 2 weekends, after being on terrible runs. Still feel constantly nervous thinking about how things will pan out though. Maybe i'm just trying to convince myself. Sunderland got rid of the negativity within the club when they sacked the manager, we haven't done that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I reckon the max Wigan will get is 6 points from their remaining games, so my optimistic self is saying to me that we're a point away from safety in my opinion. My pessimistic self is wondering where the next point will come from Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 But we are picking up points. We're just inconsistent. As for the ' can't see where our next points are coming from' theory, surely the mackems and stoke thought the same until the last 2 weekends, after being on terrible runs. Still feel constantly nervous thinking about how things will pan out though. Maybe i'm just trying to convince myself. Sunderland got rid of the negativity within the club when they sacked the manager, we haven't done that. I saw it as a gamble more than anything. Admittedly it looks to have worked for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 But we are picking up points. We're just inconsistent. As for the ' can't see where our next points are coming from' theory, surely the mackems and stoke thought the same until the last 2 weekends, after being on terrible runs. Still feel constantly nervous thinking about how things will pan out though. Maybe i'm just trying to convince myself. Sunderland got rid of the negativity within the club when they sacked the manager, we haven't done that. I agree, but although it seems to have paid off for them, it was a massive gamble. Regardless of what we think of pardew, I personally wouldn't want us to change managers at such a late stage. As Shearer proved, a new boss, late on doesn't always work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I saw it as a gamble more than anything. Admittedly it looks to have worked for them. I knew it would work short term and that's what they were looking for, they had a problem, they recognised it and they acted on it. This time next year may be different but for now it's worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I agree, but although it seems to have paid off for them, it was a massive gamble. Regardless of what we think of pardew, I personally wouldn't want us to change managers at such a late stage. As Shearer proved, a new boss, late on doesn't always work. It wasn't much of a gamble because they would have gone down if they hadn't acted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 9. Our only hope is Wigan don't do their usual great escape. Come on man, we are 6 points above (7 with goal difference) with 4 games to play. Wigan have just been beaten off west ham away and still have Spurs, Arsenal and Villa to play. They have a game in hand we are not looking like we'll pick up any points with the way we're playing. Like I said it's all reliant on them not being good enough as we're clearly incapable of helping ourselves. But we are picking up points. We're just inconsistent. As for the ' can't see where our next points are coming from' theory, surely the mackems and stoke thought the same until the last 2 weekends, after being on terrible runs. Still feel constantly nervous thinking about how things will pan out though. Maybe i'm just trying to convince myself. To me Sunderland and West Brom were the games I saw us possibly getting wins from. Now we have two extremely hard home games and we've only won 1 away game all year. It's very hard to see where the points will come from especially with teams below us showing their ability to pick up points home or away. Only QPR maybe if their mercenaries are already on holiday mode. Well I'm in agreement with you. I am starting to think we will be relying on other teams to dig us out of this shit rather than us getting the results ourselves. Most other are also in the same boat it seems as everyone is looking at Wigan/Stoke or Norwich's fixtures to provide the most convincing scenarios for our safety. Utter disgrace tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I agree, but although it seems to have paid off for them, it was a massive gamble. Regardless of what we think of pardew, I personally wouldn't want us to change managers at such a late stage. As Shearer proved, a new boss, late on doesn't always work. It wasn't much of a gamble because they would have gone down if they hadn't acted. 100% believe this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Having a game left against QPR is a big bonus, that's the one where we desperately need the win. Like the last two basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 History should have taught us that those 'winnable games' don't normally end up in points on the board though. Playing a team just after they've been relegated is quite often a banana skin as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Well, you couldn't wish for a shitter team to play, so I'm content to take my chances. Nothing's guaranteed obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfrederi Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Need a win against Liverpool otherwise anxiously keeping an eye on Wigans results as I cant see us getting anything at West Ham and I see a draw more likely than a win at QPR. Hopefully Hanibal the Cannibal will be starting a lengthy ban come saturday which will make me feel more hopeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Can't see us beating Liverpool TBH, even without Suarez. They seem to be functioning pretty well at the moment, Sturridge will surely get at least one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfrederi Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Can't see us beating Liverpool TBH, even without Suarez. They seem to be functioning pretty well at the moment, Sturridge will surely get at least one. In my heart of hearts I agree. With Wigan playing West Brom and Swansea, games i can see them clawing back the six points between us and Villa at home to Mackems then Norwich away we have got to go for it. The question is i suppose will we? Very pessimistic at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 History should have taught us that those 'winnable games' don't normally end up in points on the board though. Playing a team just after they've been relegated is quite often a banana skin as well. Just like the fact that we've only won one away game does not mean that we won't win another one, especially when the teams we've got left to play away are West Ham and QPR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Well, you couldn't wish for a shitter team to play, so I'm content to take my chances. Nothing's guaranteed obviously. I don't think we've got a great record at Loftus Road. If we come back with a point we'll have done well IMO, especially with Remy looking on fire. A point there, one at West Ham, and maybe another one somewhere might just be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Can't see us beating Liverpool TBH, even without Suarez. They seem to be functioning pretty well at the moment, Sturridge will surely get at least one. Haven't won in their last three games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Well, you couldn't wish for a shitter team to play, so I'm content to take my chances. Nothing's guaranteed obviously. I don't think we've got a great record at Loftus Road. If we come back with a point we'll have done well IMO, especially with Remy looking on fire. A point there, one at West Ham, and maybe another one somewhere might just be enough. That only leaves v Liverpool and arsenal to get the other one somewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Well, you couldn't wish for a shitter team to play, so I'm content to take my chances. Nothing's guaranteed obviously. I don't think we've got a great record at Loftus Road. If we come back with a point we'll have done well IMO, especially with Remy looking on fire. A point there, one at West Ham, and maybe another one somewhere might just be enough. Think it will tbh, but i reckon we will get a win against West Ham or QPR and i can't see Wigan ( who i think will go) will be able to get to 40 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 It's amazing how important tonights game is to us. If Villa lose this they then have to play a Sunderland side who have won their last two games at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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