Ketsbaia Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Thanks Let's cross all fingers and toes that you're correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 It's horrible though, isn't it? This season and last (for us) have been awful. The Houllier one wasn't much fun, either. I didn't renew my ST this season, and have spent most of it actually *avoiding* our matches, it has been so terrifying. I'm behind what Lambert wants to do, and hope we dont do something daft and sack him if we go down, and the bloke has immense support from the fans still, but having said all that, I've watched most of our games this season through my fingers, it has been so stomach churningly terrifying to wawtch. I am not going tomorrow night, and won't be watching on the telly. I can't stand it any more. I'd spend the whole match shaking like a shitting puppy and wishing i still smoked so I could chain smoke. That stuff's not good for you, especially past 40. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Problem is the mackems have 2 home games following tomorrow night. You'd back them to win at least one if not both - Stoke are pretty much safe now and Southampton have been for weeks. After tomorrow, Villa have a 6 pointer at Carrow Road next week then Chelsea at home before the showdown with Wigan. Not a nice run in - especially if they lose tomorrow. Norwich, a point better off than us, have Villa at home and then WBA at home - again, I suspect they'll win at least 1 of the 2 home games, although they are undeniably shit and struggle for goals. Which leaves us and Wigan. We've won 1 away game all year so there's no way we're winning both - Allardyce will no doubt beat us on Saturday but the QPR game is massive. Wigan will hopefully get turned over at WBA but I've no doubt Swansea will bend over for Martinez. They've been bending over for weeks now anyway. I've been quite confident we'd stay up for a while but can easily see us going down now, I'm a solid 9 on the relegationometer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Your car must be the cleanest it's ever been Even at 24, I'm expecting grey hairs tomorrow morning! Bonus points for the Swanson avatar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 After tomorrow, Villa have a 6 pointer at Carrow Road next week then Chelsea at home before the showdown with Wigan. Not a nice run in - especially if they lose tomorrow. On the bright side, we seem to play much better away from home than we do at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Problem is the mackems have 2 home games following tomorrow night. You'd back them to win at least one if not both - Stoke are pretty much safe now and Southampton have been for weeks. After tomorrow, Villa have a 6 pointer at Carrow Road next week then Chelsea at home before the showdown with Wigan. Not a nice run in - especially if they lose tomorrow. Norwich, a point better off than us, have Villa at home and then WBA at home - again, I suspect they'll win at least 1 of the 2 home games, although they are undeniably s*** and struggle for goals. Which leaves us and Wigan. We've won 1 away game all year so there's no way we're winning both - Allardyce will no doubt beat us on Saturday but the QPR game is massive. Wigan will hopefully get turned over at WBA but I've no doubt Swansea will bend over for Martinez. They've been bending over for weeks now anyway. I've been quite confident we'd stay up for a while but can easily see us going down now, I'm a solid 9 on the relegationometer. Not too sure about that. WBA absolutely hate Villa, can't see them being too fired up for a victory here The fans do, the players won't give too much of a shit. Clark wants them to get their best points tally since whenever (about 300 years, I'd imagine). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Bonus points for the Swanson avatar The man is brilliant. He's my role model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 After tomorrow, Villa have a 6 pointer at Carrow Road next week then Chelsea at home before the showdown with Wigan. Not a nice run in - especially if they lose tomorrow. On the bright side, we seem to play much better away from home than we do at home. Norwich are turbo shit really, just decently organised because they have no attacking threat. Wouldn't be at all surprised if you beat them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 It depends what side of Birmingham you are from. Villa - Albion is the original traditional hatred, as the teams go back longer than Blues do. However, these days, it is really about the north side of Brum, as there are both Villa and Albion fans living in the same areas there. I was brought up on the south side of the city, and as a result, never ever met an Albion fan, whereas I shared my living space with plenty of Blues fans, and they are the club I loathe. The midlands has some odd rivalries. Albion and Wolves hate each other, but there's next to no ill feeling between Wolves and Villa. Coventry absolutely loathe Villa, but Villa fans wil genuinely give as much of a shit about them as we do Northampton Town, ie none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 After tomorrow, Villa have a 6 pointer at Carrow Road next week then Chelsea at home before the showdown with Wigan. Not a nice run in - especially if they lose tomorrow. On the bright side, we seem to play much better away from home than we do at home. Norwich are turbo shit really, just decently organised because they have no attacking threat. Wouldn't be at all surprised if you beat them We will win there. I am sure of that. I think we'll win tomorrow night, too, but if i had to stake money one that one or the Norwich match as a win for us, I'd go Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Villa beat Sunderland Villa beat Norwich Sunderland beat Stoke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roy the Irish Magpie Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 It depends what side of Birmingham you are from. Villa - Albion is the original traditional hatred, as the teams go back longer than Blues do. However, these days, it is really about the north side of Brum, as there are both Villa and Albion fans living in the same areas there. I was brought up on the south side of the city, and as a result, never ever met an Albion fan, whereas I shared my living space with plenty of Blues fans, and they are the club I loathe. The midlands has some odd rivalries. Albion and Wolves hate each other, but there's next to no ill feeling between Wolves and Villa. Coventry absolutely loathe Villa, but Villa fans wil genuinely give as much of a s*** about them as we do Northampton Town, ie none. Yeah It's bizzare. Genuinely from what I've seen around my social age group 25-27, it seems the hatred is from Baggies but Villa don't seem that bothered. Blues/Villa is the one I've seen most of. Like you say Wolves/Villa just doesn't seem to have anything in it. It's easy to see why they show Villa the most hate. Villa are the biggest and most successful of all them the most to be jelous about. It's the same reason Boro hate us more than the Mackems, we're the biggest club of all the NE rivals and most successful etc so they're bound to be more jelous of us and show more hate as a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 On the subject of relegation, I am sad to see Wolves in the state they are in, especially given their manager is one of my favourite ever Villa players. It scares the shit out of me when I think about relegation, and what can actually happen, when you just assume you'd bounce back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 On the subject of relegation, I am sad to see Wolves in the state they are in, especially given their manager is one of my favourite ever Villa players. It scares the shit out of me when I think about relegation, and what can actually happen, when you just assume you'd bounce back up. We were unbelievably fortunate that we had a core of players who stuck with us and brought us back up. I've no doubt if we went down this season, we'd need a whole new squad, as most of our current squad will be off. That said most of Wolves' squad have stayed by the looks of things, they're just rotten to the core. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 i can't help but think back to the Wigan away game, not so much the Hadaira tackle which should have seen a red which probably would have seen a different game but the handball that the officials missed is so costly to us. We would be now sitting with 38 points but Wigan would be stuck on 30. 8 points clear with them playing Villa last game would surely have seen us safe now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 We need a win vs QPR to stay up imo, and I can't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Was saying yesterday that the last minute own goal could have pretty much sealed Wigan's fate, but it's easy to forget they have a game in hand - against Swansea at home IIRC. Win that and it's all fun and games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Was saying yesterday that the last minute own goal could have pretty much sealed Wigan's fate, but it's easy to forget they have a game in hand - against Swansea at home IIRC. Win that and it's all fun and games. With the emphasis on fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Was saying yesterday that the last minute own goal could have pretty much sealed Wigan's fate, but it's easy to forget they have a game in hand - against Swansea at home IIRC. Win that and it's all fun and games. With the emphasis on fun. And gay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,62148.0.html Couldn't really comprehend that at the time, but our squad was littered with spineless, talentless cunts, the season was utter turmoil from start to finish on and off the pitch and we had about four different managers. We were relegated, it was actually unbelievable. If Pardew takes this lot down then he should never be able to set foot within 100 miles of Newcastle ever again. The club could be ruined for good this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,62148.0.html Couldn't really comprehend that at the time, but our squad was littered with spineless, talentless cunts, the season was utter turmoil from start to finish on and off the pitch and we had about four different managers. We were relegated, it was actually unbelievable. If Pardew takes this lot down then he should never be able to set foot within 100 miles of Newcastle ever again. The club could be ruined for good this time. I can't fucking cope with that again. I've genuinely been losing sleep over the prospect of relegation for months now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Was going to start a 'where were you' thread for the last relegation but thought it'd be a bit daft. Might as well go in here. I was at work getting texts off my mate while hiding in the corner behind all the rug racks (dunelm mill). Ended up hearing it from some customer so ran up to him and asked. Hadn't experienced that level of guttedness and haven't since. Gary Speed and wor Bobby ran it close, mind. Where were you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I think we'd be f***ed this time round if we go down, just don't think we'd have the characters needed to take the season by the scruff of the neck. Don't think the fans would have the appetite either, we still got brilliant crowds in the championship but it would just feel like a different prospect this time round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Ugh. There was something vaguely liberating about being at Villa that day, we did ourselves proud in the face of the most ludicrous shite all season. This season feels totally different. Like it's drifted through the cracks one by one without any resistance from anywhere despite there being obvious fixes all over the shop. Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Relegation would bother me a lot more this time. It was coming all season last time, the whole club was rotten to the core, I was happy to hate the ownership and players, and to be defiant as a fan, and to some extent I was looking forward to the Championship. This would undo all the positives that came from that, would be such a waste of a talented team. And one relegation/bounce back is a character-building blip, this'd almost make us a f***ing yoyo club.I don't know how many people have the energy to do it all again, it was a novelty last time. And I was at Villa Park, and it was amongst the proudest I've been to be a Newcastle fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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