Disco Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 All the trademarks of a team walking toward relegation tonight. - beaten without opposition doing much - give away cheap FKs all over the shop - create nowt - looks fairly decent between the two goal areas without doing much - slow, laboured build up without necessarily losing ball - loads of pass backs to keeper - wrong end of questionable decisions That said it was still an improvement as we didn't totally collapse and/or lose faith. However Leicester were pretty happy to settle at one. Next two games are so fucking huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Beat the mackems or RIP. Just don't lose I reckon, a win would be huge but we absolutely can't afford to give those fuckers another 3 points. After the derby we have a 2 week break, a lot more time for Rafa to get things sorted for the last 8 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Bare minimum needed is a win v Sunderland and draw at Norwich. Should be looking at 6 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 What are everyone's predictions? AWAY: 8 7 points Everton L Chelsea L Stoke D L Leicester L Norwich W Southampton D Liverpool L Villa W HOME: 13 10 points West Brom W (Man City D) Bournemouth W Makems W Swansea W Palace L Spurs L 21 17 points Whilst not found of s*** or bust thinking/statements, can't help thinking tomorrow is a s*** or bust game. The way they've played the last two games, well I just can't see them winning. Regardless of points available, regardless of what they may possibly be capable of, their confidence looks shot to f***. Change needed to snap them out of it; Stupid Management Cunt--do one thing positive for once, in fact just do one... Much more confident of us winning the games, that seem most winnable. 14 points...will it be enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Still think it's too late a change. Incoherent up front, no quality at the back and inconsitency in between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Bare minimum needed is a win v Sunderland and draw at Norwich. Should be looking at 6 though. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 If and it's a very big IF we somehow manage to win the next 2 games we will stay up. Fail to win either of them and it's bye bye If we lose to the mackems we are effectively 2 games behind them so I'm afraid it's game over if we lose on Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 We really should be looking to go unbeaten at home from now on. City might have nothing to play for, like Spurs. Ofc lose against Mackems and its over IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 All the trademarks of a team walking toward relegation tonight. - beaten without opposition doing much - give away cheap FKs all over the shop - create nowt - looks fairly decent between the two goal areas without doing much - slow, laboured build up without necessarily losing ball - loads of pass backs to keeper - wrong end of questionable decisions Scarily accurate. The bit in bold pisses me off. Especially as Elliot's kicking is so brutal. He just lofts it up in the air or slices it wide, all the while. I'm still at a 7. We did better than I expected last night. But it was similar to the Stoke game. We should have got something from the game, yet we came away with a 1-0 loss. Worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 We've left it too late. We need every other relegation-threatened team to be completely completely shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Obviously the derby and Norwich games are vital but I'm fearful for games after that. We can't win those 2 games then drop points after that as it could give the others a chance to catch up again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 We actually looked like a team last night that could get something from all of our remaining games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 9 Tickling a 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 5 or 6. It's about 50:50 or possibly slightly more chance than not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 How can it be 50:50 to go down or stay up when we are cut a drift, in a mini relegation league of our own with Sunderland and Norwich. We are already 2nd bottom and cant score goals. Most of the season has now been played and we have injuries. To me it suggests we are more than likely to get relegated than stay up. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 33.3...% chance without factoring in our inability to score or the pathetic displays of late, Sunderland's awful defending and Allardyce's gritty bollocks, Norwich's general shiteness or our appointment of Rafa. With those things thrown into the probability "mixer", it could go either way. We are still, STILL, only a point behind the two teams above us. The small chance that Palace go down would be the greater, but highly improbable, outcome in this situation also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 How can it be 50:50 to go down or stay up when we are cut a drift, in a mini relegation league of our own with Sunderland and Norwich. We are already 2nd bottom and cant score goals. Most of the season has now been played and we have injuries. To me it suggests we are more than likely to get relegated than stay up. :lol: We still have a game in hand on Norwich and we still have to play them both. The next two games will make or break the season, yes we're 19th and struggling but the Benitez factor adds to our chances iyam. Sunday is massive, biggest game we've played since 2009 and biggest derby since THAT playoff. I still think we can do this, I notice a lot of negativity creeping in since the Leicester game last night but most of us said we'd take a narrow loss with improved performance and that's what we got. Yes it was disappointing not getting anything from the match after the way it played out but Leicester are a good side this year and they'll do that to better teams than us. The plan was always consolidate and progress, last night was consolidation, Sunday HAS to be progress, I still have faith in this squad under Benitez and I'm at a 6 right now, we've got a massive chance to put some daylight between us and the other 2 in the next 2 matches, we're only 1 point behind not 3 or 6 although some people seem to feel that way. I'll review my score after Sunday, but right now there's no need for us to panic, in Rafa we trust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 How can it be 50:50 to go down or stay up when we are cut a drift, in a mini relegation league of our own with Sunderland and Norwich. We are already 2nd bottom and cant score goals. Most of the season has now been played and we have injuries. To me it suggests we are more than likely to get relegated than stay up. :lol: We still have a game in hand on Norwich and we still have to play them both. The next two games will make or break the season, yes we're 19th and struggling but the Benitez factor adds to our chances iyam. Sunday is massive, biggest game we've played since 2009 and biggest derby since THAT playoff. I still think we can do this, I notice a lot of negativity creeping in since the Leicester game last night but most of us said we'd take a narrow loss with improved performance and that's what we got. Yes it was disappointing not getting anything from the match after the way it played out but Leicester are a good side this year and they'll do that to better teams than us. The plan was always consolidate and progress, last night was consolidation, Sunday HAS to be progress, I still have faith in this squad under Benitez and I'm at a 6 right now, we've got a massive chance to put some daylight between us and the other 2 in the next 2 matches, we're only 1 point behind not 3 or 6 although some people seem to feel that way. I'll review my score after Sunday, but right now there's no need for us to panic, in Rafa we trust. IM not negative, ive been pretty much hovering between 7,8 and 9 all season. The performance last night was a step forward and Benny will have a full week of training to work on something before our next match. Id like to think we can get the 3 points this weekend but the mackems have a way of conjuring up points in a relegation run in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 How can it be 50:50 to go down or stay up when we are cut a drift, in a mini relegation league of our own with Sunderland and Norwich. We are already 2nd bottom and cant score goals. Most of the season has now been played and we have injuries. To me it suggests we are more than likely to get relegated than stay up. :lol: Well I'd say 55:45 if that was an option. Because we have 9 games left, a new proven manager and a squad that would be expected to perform better than we have, and a relatively kind home fixture list. Look at this poll every year people always massively overestimate our chances of relegation. Compare it to the dispassionate analysis of bookies who mostly have us the same or slightly better odds than sunderland and significantly better than Norwich. The idea that we could possibly have as high as a 90% chance of relegation has little basis, beyond protective pessimism. And 10 makes no sense. There's obviously more than a <5% chance that we'll make up the tiny gap between us sunderland and Norwich. I'm not being optimistic, I know we're s**** and a 50% chance of relegation is very high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 We've got better squads than both Norwich and Sunderland. We (now) have a much better manager than both Norwich and Sunderland. We are going into the last few games with new found optimism after our change of manager. All three of us have similar games remaining in terms of difficulty and we have to play both Sunderland and Norwich. 4 for me. If we lose on Sunday it'll be an 8, but I think we'll win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 We looked a much better team last night, but I fear it might have come too little too late. We looked up for the fight in the second half especially, but we still look absolutely toothless in front of goal. If we beat the Mackems and Norwich then I think we'll stay up, but the remaining home games are incredibly vital. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 How can it be 50:50 to go down or stay up when we are cut a drift, in a mini relegation league of our own with Sunderland and Norwich. We are already 2nd bottom and cant score goals. Most of the season has now been played and we have injuries. To me it suggests we are more than likely to get relegated than stay up. :lol: We still have a game in hand on Norwich and we still have to play them both. The next two games will make or break the season, yes we're 19th and struggling but the Benitez factor adds to our chances iyam. Sunday is massive, biggest game we've played since 2009 and biggest derby since THAT playoff. I still think we can do this, I notice a lot of negativity creeping in since the Leicester game last night but most of us said we'd take a narrow loss with improved performance and that's what we got. Yes it was disappointing not getting anything from the match after the way it played out but Leicester are a good side this year and they'll do that to better teams than us. The plan was always consolidate and progress, last night was consolidation, Sunday HAS to be progress, I still have faith in this squad under Benitez and I'm at a 6 right now, we've got a massive chance to put some daylight between us and the other 2 in the next 2 matches, we're only 1 point behind not 3 or 6 although some people seem to feel that way. I'll review my score after Sunday, but right now there's no need for us to panic, in Rafa we trust. Amen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKSC Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I'm not sure we looked that much better last night. A small improvement yes, but we still looked devoid of ideas and liable to fall apart at any moment. The problems in our team are huge and I'm not sure Rafa has enough time or the personnel available to sort it out. Yes, maybe we should have had a penalty and yes, maybe Vardy could have been given offside but the long and short of it is, we created hardly anything of note and Leicester barely had to break a sweat to beat us. Sunday will be all blood and thunder, 100 mile an hour, physical, turgid and downright dirty football. I'm not sure we have it in us to go at it like that head to head with the scum who will turn up ready to pull our ears off and gouge our eyes out in order to get the win. I'm hovering between an 8 and a 9 purely because there are still so many games to go and the league is unpredictable. I think we need more than just to beat Sunderland and Norwich, maybe as many as four wins just to be close to getting out of it. I just can't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Beat the mackems or RIP. Just don't lose I reckon, a win would be huge but we absolutely can't afford to give those fuckers another 3 points. After the derby we have a 2 week break, a lot more time for Rafa to get things sorted for the last 8 games. Nah, we've got to beat them because it's the only game remaining that we can have an influence over their point tally come the end of the season. We've got players who can hurt them, we just need the gameplan and the application, the last one will be the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I'm not sure we looked that much better last night. A small improvement yes, but we still looked devoid of ideas and liable to fall apart at any moment. The problems in our team are huge and I'm not sure Rafa has enough time or the personnel available to sort it out. Yes, maybe we should have had a penalty and yes, maybe Vardy could have been given offside but the long and short of it is, we created hardly anything of note and Leicester barely had to break a sweat to beat us. Sunday will be all blood and thunder, 100 mile an hour, physical, turgid and downright dirty football. I'm not sure we have it in us to go at it like that head to head with the scum who will turn up ready to pull our ears off and gouge our eyes out in order to get the win. I'm hovering between an 8 and a 9 purely because there are still so many games to go and the league is unpredictable. I think we need more than just to beat Sunderland and Norwich, maybe as many as four wins just to be close to getting out of it. I just can't see it. If we beat both of them, we're staying up. They'll both draw their way to the end of the season because both of their true brit managers 'know what they're doing'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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