TRon Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I'm not sure we looked that much better last night. A small improvement yes, but we still looked devoid of ideas and liable to fall apart at any moment. The problems in our team are huge and I'm not sure Rafa has enough time or the personnel available to sort it out. Yes, maybe we should have had a penalty and yes, maybe Vardy could have been given offside but the long and short of it is, we created hardly anything of note and Leicester barely had to break a sweat to beat us. Sunday will be all blood and thunder, 100 mile an hour, physical, turgid and downright dirty football. I'm not sure we have it in us to go at it like that head to head with the scum who will turn up ready to pull our ears off and gouge our eyes out in order to get the win. I'm hovering between an 8 and a 9 purely because there are still so many games to go and the league is unpredictable. I think we need more than just to beat Sunderland and Norwich, maybe as many as four wins just to be close to getting out of it. I just can't see it. Sunday won't be blood and thunder, not with Allardyce in charge. They'll defend deep and Rafa's not going to throw caution to the wind either. It will be a tight niggly game but we should be able to impose our game on them. They certainly won't close us down as effectively as Leicester did last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 With the Man City game on the 19th April that's going to be an absolutely huge week, 2 home games within a few days.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I'm not sure we looked that much better last night. A small improvement yes, but we still looked devoid of ideas and liable to fall apart at any moment. The problems in our team are huge and I'm not sure Rafa has enough time or the personnel available to sort it out. Yes, maybe we should have had a penalty and yes, maybe Vardy could have been given offside but the long and short of it is, we created hardly anything of note and Leicester barely had to break a sweat to beat us. Sunday will be all blood and thunder, 100 mile an hour, physical, turgid and downright dirty football. I'm not sure we have it in us to go at it like that head to head with the scum who will turn up ready to pull our ears off and gouge our eyes out in order to get the win. I'm hovering between an 8 and a 9 purely because there are still so many games to go and the league is unpredictable. I think we need more than just to beat Sunderland and Norwich, maybe as many as four wins just to be close to getting out of it. I just can't see it. Sunday won't be blood and thunder, not with Allardyce in charge. They'll defend deep and Rafa's not going to throw caution to the wind either. It will be a tight niggly game but we should be able to impose our game on them. They certainly won't close us down as effectively as Leicester did last night. I can't really remember the last time is was blood and thunder? the last few certainly haven't been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Think it is too late, tbh. It's a shame, really, when you got Rafa in. Hope to be proven wrong. Edit:Solid ten, btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 All depends on the next two games with a minimum of 4 points required I believe. Sunday game is huge as I honestly think whoever loses will be down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I put 5. I'm completely split. On the one hand Sunderland have a goalscorer, an extra point and better goal difference. On the other, we have better players, better fixtures and the Rafa factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 All hinges on Sunday. We lose, that's it. A draw and it's a struggle, win though and we're favourites to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I'm not sure we looked that much better last night. A small improvement yes, but we still looked devoid of ideas and liable to fall apart at any moment. The problems in our team are huge and I'm not sure Rafa has enough time or the personnel available to sort it out. Yes, maybe we should have had a penalty and yes, maybe Vardy could have been given offside but the long and short of it is, we created hardly anything of note and Leicester barely had to break a sweat to beat us. Sunday will be all blood and thunder, 100 mile an hour, physical, turgid and downright dirty football. I'm not sure we have it in us to go at it like that head to head with the scum who will turn up ready to pull our ears off and gouge our eyes out in order to get the win. I'm hovering between an 8 and a 9 purely because there are still so many games to go and the league is unpredictable. I think we need more than just to beat Sunderland and Norwich, maybe as many as four wins just to be close to getting out of it. I just can't see it. Sunday won't be blood and thunder, not with Allardyce in charge. They'll defend deep and Rafa's not going to throw caution to the wind either. It will be a tight niggly game but we should be able to impose our game on them. They certainly won't close us down as effectively as Leicester did last night. I can't really remember the last time is was blood and thunder? the last few certainly haven't been. I said it in the match thread, but absolutely cannot play "blood and thunder" I don't want to see us revert to that it'll play right into their hands. Play our game, stay cool and don't let them impose their game on us. We could do with a ref that's not going to let them kick the shit out of us because that'll be their tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Swansea certainly aren't safe yet, and we still have them to play at home. They have an easy game at home to Villa on Saturday but a very tough run in. Games against Chelsea,Liverpool,Leicester,West Ham and Man City Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Swansea certainly aren't safe yet, and we still have them to play at home. They have an easy game at home to Villa on Saturday but a very tough run in. Games against Chelsea,Liverpool,Leicester,West Ham and Man City I don't think Palace are safe yet either, we just need to concentrate on getting ourselves on a run of results though, but there's definitely more teams still in it than the 4 at the bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just had a quick tally up and I have it as Newcastle 35 points Sunderland 32 points Norwich 32 points. That's with us getting a draw on Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 If he sticks with playing Anita advanced of Shelvey like last night we will go down. it should be the other way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 If he sticks with playing Anita advanced of Shelvey like last night we will go down. it should be the other way round. He won't, unlike our past array of astute tactical managers he saw it wasn't working and made the early change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 If he sticks with playing Anita advanced of Shelvey like last night we will go down. it should be the other way round. He won't, unlike our past array of astute tactical managers he saw it wasn't working and made the early change. It's the fact he even went with it to start with that worries me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 If he sticks with playing Anita advanced of Shelvey like last night we will go down. it should be the other way round. He won't, unlike our past array of astute tactical managers he saw it wasn't working and made the early change. It's the fact he even went with it to start with that worries me! At least he didn't play Obertan in his first game...christ, and we wonder why we're 19th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-Cheshire-Toon Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Team Pld Pts To play Max Points Game to play (in order). Crystal Palace 30 33 8 57 Lei WHU Nor Arse Ever Newc stoke South Swansea 30 33 8 57 Villa Stoke Chel Newc lei liver WHU Man C Sunderland 29 25 9 52 Newc WBA Lei Nor arse stoke Chel Ever Wat Norwich 30 25 8 49 WBA Newc Pal Sund wat arse Man U Ever Newcastle 29 24 9 51 Sund Nor South Swan Man C liver palace Villa Spurs Aston Villa 30 16 8 40 Swan Che Bourn Man U south wat newc Arse Hope this comes out right - edited from my excel spreadsheet - the remaining games. One thing i did notice - and we will only have ourselves to blame if we go down - it the fact that current we will play all of the other bottom 6 clubs - so the potential number of 6 pointers is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Team Pld Pts To play Max Points Game to play (in order). Crystal Palace 30 33 8 57 Lei WHU Nor Arse Ever Newc stoke South Swansea 30 33 8 57 Villa Stoke Chel Newc lei liver WHU Man C Sunderland 29 25 9 52 Newc WBA Lei Nor arse stoke Chel Ever Wat Norwich 30 25 8 49 WBA Newc Pal Sund wat arse Man U Ever Newcastle 29 24 9 51 Sund Nor South Swan Man C liver palace Villa Spurs Aston Villa 30 16 8 40 Swan Che Bourn Man U south wat newc Arse Hope this comes out right - edited from my excel spreadsheet - the remaining games. One thing i did notice - and we will only have ourselves to blame if we go down - it the fact that current we will play all of the other bottom 6 clubs - so the potential number of 6 pointers is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Didn't realise the mackems had such a tough run-in, might be a draw wouldn't be the worst result this weekend... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Didn't realise the mackems had such a tough run-in, might be a draw wouldn't be the worst result this weekend... Thing is, they always seem to pull off a result when it's tough. 3-0 win away at Chelsea a few years back is one fine example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 We'll have a pretty good idea after the next two games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Just did a predictor to the end of the season for us, Swansea, Norwich, the mackems and Palace. Refused to predict the derby just to see how pivotal it might be, I had us and the mackems on 35 with 1 to play, Swansea 36 and Palace 38. Had us beating Palace, Swansea & Villa away and drawing at Norwich and Southampton. Losses to Liverpool, Spurs & Man City. Swansea have Villa this weekend then a pretty tricky run, whilst Palace's upcoming games are ridiculous. Of course anything could happen but it ended up being pretty tight for the last 2 spots between the 5 teams I mentioned and that was without anything massively shocking being predicted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Just did a predictor to the end of the season for us, Swansea, Norwich, the mackems and Palace. Refused to predict the derby just to see how pivotal it might be, I had us and the mackems on 35 with 1 to play, Swansea 36 and Palace 38. Had us beating Palace, Swansea & Villa away and drawing at Norwich and Southampton. Losses to Liverpool, Spurs & Man City. Swansea have Villa this weekend then a pretty tricky run, whilst Palace's upcoming games are ridiculous. Of course anything could happen but it ended up being pretty tight for the last 2 spots between the 5 teams I mentioned and that was without anything massively shocking being predicted. What about Norwich? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Just did a predictor to the end of the season for us, Swansea, Norwich, the mackems and Palace. Refused to predict the derby just to see how pivotal it might be, I had us and the mackems on 35 with 1 to play, Swansea 36 and Palace 38. Had us beating Palace, Swansea & Villa away and drawing at Norwich and Southampton. Losses to Liverpool, Spurs & Man City. Swansea have Villa this weekend then a pretty tricky run, whilst Palace's upcoming games are ridiculous. Of course anything could happen but it ended up being pretty tight for the last 2 spots between the 5 teams I mentioned and that was without anything massively shocking being predicted. I've just done it and have us stopping up with 40 points in 16th place, 4 points more than the relegated mackems and 1 more than Swansea. Leicester were top with 2 points more than spurs. I think I should book myself in for a drugs test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 4 wins will do it, 3 wins could do it (with a couple of draws, naturally). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Said it before, the derby is just a starting point. If we win, we really can't drop points after that to give them a chance of catching. The home games are must wins. mackems, Swansea, Palace and Villa away. If we could sneak a win against Norwich, a draw or even a win against nothing to play for City,uhen there's a good chance of staying up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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