BlueStar Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 So there is scope for confusion here, the papers served to the PL alleging violations of anti-competition are official and from... NUFC, the buyers, both? And the angry rant from a fans group is separate and coincidentally timed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 https://twitter.com/NCSL1892/status/1321032678712451073/photo/1 Please tell me this isn't the actual letter? It reads like a drunk rant ffs. Edit: it's not the actual letter thankfully. 9 pages worth here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 So whilst this is all very interesting, we're a loooong way from "make some room in the fridge". I'd hoped we'd see that the PL's attitude to the deal had changed, something which would indicate there was a real chance of this going through. Instead the PL seem still opposed to it and determined not to let it through, and so whilst like all of us I hope this is eventually works out in our favour, nothing has fundamentally changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 So there is scope for confusion here, the papers served to the PL alleging violations of anti-competition are official and from... NUFC, the buyers, both? And the angry rant from a fans group is separate and coincidentally timed? No, the papers served on the PL are from the 'fans group', however, that action appears to be backed by the buyers. It could be that the club and buyers are actually behind it but it's legally expedient to have the action brought by a third party for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I find this quite interesting. Strong worded letter, basically underlines the legal challenges the PL have to overcome in case of a court case. The ingenious thing is the let it be from a fans group. Leavening all involved parties (buyer/seller) out of the case at this stage. (on paper) When pushing comes to shove both the seller and buyer can launch independent cases against the PL to ramp up pressure and drain resources. Seems like this will be an coordinated attack from all angles eventually. Definitely coordinated. Slowly cornering the EPL. This initial letter is just the stalking horse before it gets taken to court. If they need to go that far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/RedRoseMichelle/status/1321040956888592385 Decent thread. We're lightyears away from this being close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 So whilst this is all very interesting, we're a loooong way from "make some room in the fridge". I'd hoped we'd see that the PL's attitude to the deal had changed, something which would indicate there was a real chance of this going through. Instead the PL seem still opposed to it and determined not to let it through, and so whilst like all of us I hope this is eventually works out in our favour, nothing has fundamentally changed. The same guy who said the statement was coming said it might be a few weeks until completion. The statement (of sorts) has arrived, so why would you choose ignore the rest of what he’s said? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 MMA is seemingly gunning for Luke Edwards again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Amazon and Netflix have missed out some quality drama not following us around like a fly on shite for the last decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 how is it breaching anti-competition laws? thats a big claim to make and you'd want to have some serious evidence to back it up or if it ends in court any judge would just dismiss it out of hand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimms Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/RedRoseMichelle/status/1321040956888592385 Decent thread. We're lightyears away from this being close. She has no clue. She’s been private messaging journos for additional information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 So there is scope for confusion here, the papers served to the PL alleging violations of anti-competition are official and from... NUFC, the buyers, both? And the angry rant from a fans group is separate and coincidentally timed? I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say this will not force any takeover through. Cue angry responses from the usual suspects on here.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Oh, and... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Mimms, Ando and Money Mike Ashley (yes, genuinely) are the three real ITKs here. Someone might have pointed this out before but Money Mike Ashley follows only one on twitter; a PR agency called KBA (Keith Bishop Association). Under their clients they list both Newcastle United and Sports Direct: https://www.kbapr.com/clients/ In fact, a lot of the brands listed are owned by Mike Ashely (Frasers Group). How I wish I was this far behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 So there is scope for confusion here, the papers served to the PL alleging violations of anti-competition are official and from... NUFC, the buyers, both? And the angry rant from a fans group is separate and coincidentally timed? [I'm going to take a stab in the darkand say this will not force any takeover through. Cue angry responses from the usual suspects on here.. Wish someone would Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 So there is scope for confusion here, the papers served to the PL alleging violations of anti-competition are official and from... NUFC, the buyers, both? And the angry rant from a fans group is separate and coincidentally timed? I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say this will not force any takeover through. Cue angry responses from the usual suspects on here.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 It's a nice P.R. piece, if nothing else. Substantively, though, I have doubts that a supporters group would be found to have standing to pursue an anti-trust case here (i.e., how has the Consortium Supporters group been harmed?). And somebody else being behind it wouldn't solve that problem if they're not going to step up and be a party. Not hating on it, though--somebody has put some effort and money into it, so hopefully it helps. Customers are able to engage in legal action if it affects their costs or the quality of the product. this is why it is fan led. I think it can be forced through faster this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 So whilst this is all very interesting, we're a loooong way from "make some room in the fridge". I'd hoped we'd see that the PL's attitude to the deal had changed, something which would indicate there was a real chance of this going through. Instead the PL seem still opposed to it and determined not to let it through, and so whilst like all of us I hope this is eventually works out in our favour, nothing has fundamentally changed. The same guy who said the statement was coming said it might be a few weeks until completion. The statement (of sorts) has arrived, so why would you choose ignore the rest of what he’s said? Because A) it's infinitely easier to predict when a statement will be released (Something you are entirely in control of) than to predict when a legal case will be resolved in your favour (Something which you are absolutely NOT in control of at all) B) Because I refuse to get overly excited about literally anything anymore, until it's actually finished, because it's just not good for my mental health But mainly A). The PL have a say in this too, and as we've already seen they can drag things out, obfuscate, and cause enough problems that the other side - who've according to Mimms himself already put a deadline on this being resolved - just walk away bored shitless. I hope as much as anyone that this happens, but unless it does I shall continue to assume it will not. And that's not entirely without good reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 how is it breaching anti-competition laws? thats a big claim to make and you'd want to have some serious evidence to back it up or if it ends in court any judge would just dismiss it out of hand I think I'll leave the answer to that in the hands of the multi million pound lawyers that Ashley has employed. They must know what they are doing... mustn't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Progress I mentioned is due to a different direction that the lawyers have explored/exploited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On the one hand it would be hilarious beyond words if this was a desperate hail mary attempt. On the other hand I don't think they'd go all in if it didn't actually seem likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Progress I mentioned is due to a different direction that the lawyers have explored/exploited. The good holes in De Marco’s bread were definitely loopholes like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 It's a nice P.R. piece, if nothing else. Substantively, though, I have doubts that a supporters group would be found to have standing to pursue an anti-trust case here (i.e., how has the Consortium Supporters group been harmed?). And somebody else being behind it wouldn't solve that problem if they're not going to step up and be a party. Not hating on it, though--somebody has put some effort and money into it, so hopefully it helps. Customers are able to engage in legal action if it affects their costs or the quality of the product. this is why it is fan led. I think it can be forced through faster this way. Wonder if its something to do with the statement last night about the PL charging fans 14.95 and Ashley not agreeing with it. No idea how you can relate the two regarding our takeover but it's just so random for Ashley to say that and today we get this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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