Ankles Bennett Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So Masters confirms arbitration has begun. What happened to NUFCs legal position being so strong, so certain that it would never even get to court? I thought the PL were so backed into a corner, there's no chance they'd want to go through arbitration? The PL seem pretty confident of their legal position like, regardless of the 'supreme confidence' of the buyers. The fact its gone to arbitration doesnt fill me with any sort of confidence like, nor does it suggest that the piracy dealings had anything to do with the decision either. They explained that it would not look good if we went to court without first of all trying Arbitration! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 He has confirmed it. Note that the letter were written 20 days ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So Masters confirms arbitration has begun. What happened to NUFCs legal position being so strong, so certain that it would never even get to court? I thought the PL were so backed into a corner, there's no chance they'd want to go through arbitration? The PL seem pretty confident of their legal position like, regardless of the 'supreme confidence' of the buyers. The fact its gone to arbitration doesnt fill me with any sort of confidence like, nor does it suggest that the piracy dealings had anything to do with the decision either. I like to think of myself as a realist when it comes to the takeover and have been sceptical ever since PIF "withdrew". Where are you getting the information that Masters has said arbitration has begun? Because he hasn't confirmed that in his letter today. He's confirmed the club (MA) has a legal case ongoing which we all knew already. Also, you should understand that when arbitration does start (if it hasn't already) that is a good thing. It is the only way the deal gets done. I'm still far from convinced it'll happen but imo the soundings of the last 3/4 days have been nothing but positive. It literally says on the 2nd page “(the club) has commenced arbitration proceedings with the Premier league” That is confirmation of the statement the club (MA) issued months ago after the PL confirmed to NCSL that the club has raised a legal case against them. It isn't confirmation that the arbitration hearing is underway. That is how I have interpreted anyway. That's my take on this also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Going through to arbitration could simply be the PLs way out of this. They 'can't' wave it through due to pressures from the big They 'can't' wave it through without a change in proposed ownership structure to save face They 'can't' block the takeover based on the D&O test rules that applied at the time of the submission. They don't actually want to block Saudi involvement in the league due to the money on offer Arbitration says there is no grounds to block it, PL shrug and say they have no choice but to let it through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I don’t know much about it but isn’t arbitration the thing that comes before the court case. All parties trying to work it out out of court so a judge doesn’t have to? That's mediation, which is non-binding. Arbitration is basically litigation through a private tribunal, instead of a court, resulting in a binding decision. Edit: Oops, I see jonny1403 already answered that. What he said. thank you both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Going through to arbitration could simply be the PLs way out of this. They 'can't' wave it through due to pressures from the big They 'can't' wave it through without a change in proposed ownership structure to save face They 'can't' block the takeover based on the D&O test rules that applied at the time of the submission. They don't actually want to block Saudi involvement in the league due to the money on offer Arbitration says there is no grounds to block it, PL shrug and say they have no choice but to let it through or Arbitration says the Saudi's refusal to answer reasonable questions about ownership, means they fail the O&D test, however, the consortium will then be able to appeal against the decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Here we go again, the scumbag national media getting a whiff of possible takeover success and in go the barbs.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Here we go again, the scumbag national media getting a whiff of possible takeover success and in go the barbs.. It's nowt you lot ain't been saying on here about his tweets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I see it too . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Here we go again, the scumbag national media getting a whiff of possible takeover success and in go the barbs.. It's nowt you lot ain't been saying on here about his tweets. Did Panja's sarcasm in that tweet just whoosh straight over your head? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Here we go again, the scumbag national media getting a whiff of possible takeover success and in go the barbs.. It's nowt you lot ain't been saying on here about his tweets. Did Panja's sarcasm in that tweet just whoosh straight over your head? Not at all, but you've all been whipping yourselves into a frenzy every time he tweets. It's a pretty accurate observation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 At a guess, I'd say that ITK/Journalist tidbits of 'soon' and 'there'll be movement within a few weeks/months' comes from sources within the buyer side, who have remained 'confident'. Why would they be anything other than confident? They're hardly going to be leaking that there is a few holes in our case, we're on shaky ground but we're still hopeful. I think more than a few people are setting themselves up to get their fingers burned, exactly the way Caulkin did. Anyway, I'll say no more on the subject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 The absolute cheek of Ben Jacobs saying we took "quite a bit of time" prepping our case Like someone has pointed out on twitter though, I wonder where he is getting that info from as that doesn't seem like a PL leak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Also looks like the PL wants to be football friends again (ties in with the F365 ITK) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Here we go again, the scumbag national media getting a whiff of possible takeover success and in go the barbs.. It's nowt you lot ain't been saying on here about his tweets. Did Panja's sarcasm in that tweet just whoosh straight over your head? Not at all, but you've all been whipping yourselves into a frenzy every time he tweets. It's a pretty accurate observation. Football fans in getting-excited-on-twitter shock. Does he also take snidey swipes at the fans of other teams when they get excited about stuff regarding their club? Or is it just NUFC supporters who rattle him enough to provoke a response? We'd better batten down the hatches again folks. The filth are getting wind of this coming back. They thought they had swatted it away for good but now they know that they didnt. Expect the next 4 weeks to be like those in May. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I predict a letter from Amnesty and that Khashoggi's fake wife. Or could it possibly be that the thawing of relations between Saudi and Qatar finally fucken shit her up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I predict a letter from Amnesty and that Khashoggi's fake wife. Or could it possibly be that the thawing of relations between Saudi and Qatar finally fucken shit her up. Oh good, here we are again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I predict a letter from Amnesty and that Khashoggi's fake wife. Or could it possibly be that the thawing of relations between Saudi and Qatar finally fucken shit her up. How can she be his fake wife? They were never married, he went to get documentation that he needed to marry her when he was killed. Will there be a letter from her? Possibly if Qatar still want to block the takeover. Let’s not start name calling and abusing her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 This is big news. Hopefully the PL lawyers advise masters to not waste everyone's time and pass it through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I predict a letter from Amnesty and that Khashoggi's fake wife. Or could it possibly be that the thawing of relations between Saudi and Qatar finally fucken shit her up. How can she be his fake wife? They were never married, he went to get documentation that he needed to marry her when he was killed. Will there be a letter from her? Possibly if Qatar still want to block the takeover. Let’s not start name calling and abusing her. Ok then ffs, fake girlfriend. Didn't Khashoggi's own family say they had never heard of her or seen her before. Ever. Like I said, fake! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Just leave her out of this thread please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Just leave her out of this thread please. Hopefully that's the case, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I predict a letter from Amnesty and that Khashoggi's fake wife. Or could it possibly be that the thawing of relations between Saudi and Qatar finally fucken shit her up. How can she be his fake wife? They were never married, he went to get documentation that he needed to marry her when he was killed. Will there be a letter from her? Possibly if Qatar still want to block the takeover. Let’s not start name calling and abusing her. Ok then ffs, fake girlfriend. Didn't Khashoggi's own family say they had never heard of her or seen her before. Ever. Like I said, fake! She was actually filmed waiting outside the the embassy for him, for hours, while Saudi agents killed him and chopped him up. Stop embarrassing yourself and the rest of us with this shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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