Takeover Thread - July 1st statement, Staveley letter to Tracey Crouch (and response) in OP

[Wandy]

To me the statement reads as one of frustration rather than desperation. For a few weeks now I have been of the belief that Ashley has offered the PL a deal to make the legal stuff go away and it looks like, so far, the PL have resisted this. Ashley seems exasperated at this as he obviously thinks he has his tanks surrounding them with no way out. This statement is another message to them to think of the consequences of going all the way down the legal path. He just wants the deal done now, without having to wait for a resolution potentially for another 8 months down the line.

[Armchair Pundit]

29 minutes ago, Wandy said:

I don't give a fuck how much of a prick Ashley is, or how hypocritical the statement was. The fact remains that the real villains here are the Premier League, and the only reason that people like Ashley exist in football is because of how these fuckers run the league. Lets not lose sight of who the enemy is here.

 

100% agree with this. We all know Ashley's a cunt, we've seen it time and again, but I'd much rather he won out this time round and would be fully behind him doing so, just to get him out of the door and the takeover through. It's shambolic that all relevant parties are willing and yet the Premier League, corrupt as they are, can block it from happening and not be held accountable in public in any way. Our troubles with Ashley are in the past if we get new owners, that's all I care about.

[et tu brute]

Ashley is a grade one cunt, however he is the exact type of grade one cunt required to push every angle for this takeover. He will throw every dirty trick there is and does not give a shit who he upsets. Honestly think he will be fully prepared to release incriminating evidence also if he has to. The bloke doesn’t give a fuck if his assets are being threatened  or undermined. Personally think that statement today is a deliberate warning shot across the bows. The fact it mentioned the Super League was quite noteworthy.

 

 

Edited July 1, 2021 by et tu brute

[James]

There’s an interesting line in there that the PL are trying to bar the usually public CAT hearing from being heard in public.

 

this suggests they lost the jurisdiction CAT arguments

[Wandy]

2 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Ashley is a grade one cunt, however he is the exact type of grade one cunt required to push every angle to push this takeover. He will throw every dirty trick there is and does not give a shit who he upsets. Honestly think he will be fully prepared to release incriminating evidence also if he has to. The bloke doesn’t give a fuck if his assets are being threatened  or undermined. Personally think that statement today is a deliberate warning shot across the bows. The fact it mentioned the Super League was quite noteworthy.

 

Agreed. The statement glaringly references the government, transparency and the ESL. 

[veriaqa]

In my opinion this is a pre-emptive strike from Ashley's legal team before the arbitration started. So, the public eyes are focused on the PL. It's neither negative or positive. I don't think it will work though.

 

 

Edited July 1, 2021 by veriaqa

[Happinesstan]

 

3 hours ago, toontownman said:

 I do think it's a negative thing to do. Comes off a little desperate and that our side has some good dirt on the PL and want to make sure if they lose they dont leave the PL scarred.

 

Could also just be pissed with how long it's taking and maybe they feel there is another holdup and looking like it will take even longer to get resolved. Hence pushing in public. We wont find any favour from fans of other clubs or the general public so not sure what its about.

 

 

Aye but if they scratch our back...

 

 

Edited July 1, 2021 by Happinesstan

[Guest reefatoon]

Desperation  

 

Folks do realise it isn’t actually Mike and Charnley trying to get this sorted? Ashley’s paying top whack for the best in the business, I am sure they are not sitting around going “fuck, fuck, shit, what are we going to do now. Erm, Quick send some statement out!!”

 

This will be coordinated and I think I have a little more faith in what they are doing than thinking that was desperation.  But hey ho, what would some top QC’s know when Newcastle Online's finest can see what it is. 

[Ketsbaia]

So the statement is some sort of blackmail, subtly threatening to release some Super League-related info?

 

Interesting.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

4 hours ago, gdm said:

 

 

 

"As a lawyer"

 

"like what NUFC did"

 

[Dr Jinx]

Just confirms arbitration hasn’t started yet. Or maybe a hint that they are expecting the CAT case to be thrown out on Jurisdiction.

 

This after all was their vessel to have everything heard in public so why would the normally behind closed doors arbitration suddenly become the battle ground if everything else was going ok?

 

Cant see this as anything other than being a negative.

[Kanj]

I could not give a single fuck how much money Ashley makes on a potential sale of NUFC. I am fully aware (and don’t need reminding from any person or journalist) how poorly he’s run this club and how hypocritical the statement is in context of the club’s communication and operations. 
 

All I want is him gone from the club having sold to an ambitious custodian who will finally lead the club into a direction where we can talk and enjoy the highs and lows of supporting an actual football team that tries to be better every single day. 
 

Life is too bloody short. 

[cubaricho]

9 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

Not defending him

 

[RS]

Twatter NUFC fans now seeing Mike Ashley as a hero. What a fucking game this man is playing.

65000 screeming jawdies first home game

[Shearergol]

7 hours ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

 

 

"As a lawyer"

 

"like what NUFC did"

 

 

Yank though.

[James]

Quote from statement:

 

‘It is currently attempting to prevent the competition courts considering a claim by the Club’s sellers from taking place in public, arguing that too should be held in confidential arbitration.’

 

This is the most significant element of the statement.

 

PL aren’t trying to get it thrown out on jurisdiction any more which means they lost that argument, so have moved on to trying to ensure secrecy

[Danh1]

6 minutes ago, James said:

Quote from statement:

 

‘It is currently attempting to prevent the competition courts considering a claim by the Club’s sellers from taking place in public, arguing that too should be held in confidential arbitration.’

 

This is the most significant element of the statement.

 

PL aren’t trying to get it thrown out on jurisdiction any more which means they lost that argument, so have moved on to trying to ensure secrecy

Aye I was happy with that being in there. Definitely a good sign. 
 

Not even going to try and form an opinion on the rest of it and whether it’s positive or negative. Can see both sides.  We need this takeover so badly, the club is on life support at the minute and not getting bought will turn it off. 

[Scoot]

23 minutes ago, James said:

Quote from statement:

 

‘It is currently attempting to prevent the competition courts considering a claim by the Club’s sellers from taking place in public, arguing that too should be held in confidential arbitration.’

 

This is the most significant element of the statement.

 

PL aren’t trying to get it thrown out on jurisdiction any more which means they lost that argument, so have moved on to trying to ensure secrecy

 

Never noticed that, good point 

[r0cafella]

36 minutes ago, James said:

Quote from statement:

 

‘It is currently attempting to prevent the competition courts considering a claim by the Club’s sellers from taking place in public, arguing that too should be held in confidential arbitration.’

 

This is the most significant element of the statement.

 

PL aren’t trying to get it thrown out on jurisdiction any more which means they lost that argument, so have moved on to trying to ensure secrecy

Excellent point. 
 

Club trying to create leverage so they can settle this quietly from the looks of that. 

[Yorkie]

So that suggests the jurisdiction claim has been thrown out? 

[Jackie Broon]

23 minutes ago, James said:

Quote from statement:

 

‘It is currently attempting to prevent the competition courts considering a claim by the Club’s sellers from taking place in public, arguing that too should be held in confidential arbitration.’

 

This is the most significant element of the statement.

 

PL aren’t trying to get it thrown out on jurisdiction any more which means they lost that argument, so have moved on to trying to ensure secrecy

 

I thought that on first view but I think it can be interpreted either way.

Particularly with it saying "that too should be held in confidential arbitration", the CAT claim is not arbitration.

 

What I think it is most likely actually saying is that the PL are trying to prevent the CAT case, which would be public, from going ahead arguing that should be dealt with under the arbitration instead.

 

That suggests to me that the PL's jurisdiction challenge is still yet to be decided.

[Fantail Breeze]

2 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

I thought that on first view but I think it can be interpreted either way.

Particularly with it saying "that too should be held in confidential arbitration", the CAT claim is not arbitration.

 

What I think it is most likely actually saying is that the PL are trying to prevent the CAT case, which would be public, from going ahead arguing that should be dealt with under the arbitration instead.

 

That suggests to me that the PL's jurisdiction challenge is still yet to be decided.

 

That’s how I interpreted it too.

[James]

3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

So that suggests the jurisdiction claim has been thrown out? 

Im leaning about 70/30 in that direction yes, the 30 being what Jackie Broon just said

[Jackie Broon]

3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

That’s how I interpreted it too.

 

Of course you fucking did 

[Wandy]

It was noticeable that De Marco tweeted about the statement last night. Remember, it was him a few months ago who said he always advises clients to come to an arrangement before arbitration goes ahead because it can be a lottery. I think the statement was a call to the PL to accept an arrangement that has been offered to them by the club.

 

The main reason I think the PL are resisting is that they have come too far down the line to be seen losing face by backing down before legal proceedings. More importantly though, if they lose then they can go back to their six overlords and say "we tried lads, but the law took it out of our hands".