RS Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Twatter NUFC fans now seeing Mike Ashley as a hero. What a fucking game this man is playing. 65000 screeming jawdies first home game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: "As a lawyer" "like what NUFC did" Yank though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Quote from statement: ‘It is currently attempting to prevent the competition courts considering a claim by the Club’s sellers from taking place in public, arguing that too should be held in confidential arbitration.’ This is the most significant element of the statement. PL aren’t trying to get it thrown out on jurisdiction any more which means they lost that argument, so have moved on to trying to ensure secrecy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, James said: Quote from statement: ‘It is currently attempting to prevent the competition courts considering a claim by the Club’s sellers from taking place in public, arguing that too should be held in confidential arbitration.’ This is the most significant element of the statement. PL aren’t trying to get it thrown out on jurisdiction any more which means they lost that argument, so have moved on to trying to ensure secrecy Aye I was happy with that being in there. Definitely a good sign. Not even going to try and form an opinion on the rest of it and whether it’s positive or negative. Can see both sides. We need this takeover so badly, the club is on life support at the minute and not getting bought will turn it off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, James said: Quote from statement: ‘It is currently attempting to prevent the competition courts considering a claim by the Club’s sellers from taking place in public, arguing that too should be held in confidential arbitration.’ This is the most significant element of the statement. PL aren’t trying to get it thrown out on jurisdiction any more which means they lost that argument, so have moved on to trying to ensure secrecy Never noticed that, good point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 36 minutes ago, James said: Quote from statement: ‘It is currently attempting to prevent the competition courts considering a claim by the Club’s sellers from taking place in public, arguing that too should be held in confidential arbitration.’ This is the most significant element of the statement. PL aren’t trying to get it thrown out on jurisdiction any more which means they lost that argument, so have moved on to trying to ensure secrecy Excellent point. Club trying to create leverage so they can settle this quietly from the looks of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 So that suggests the jurisdiction claim has been thrown out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, James said: Quote from statement: ‘It is currently attempting to prevent the competition courts considering a claim by the Club’s sellers from taking place in public, arguing that too should be held in confidential arbitration.’ This is the most significant element of the statement. PL aren’t trying to get it thrown out on jurisdiction any more which means they lost that argument, so have moved on to trying to ensure secrecy I thought that on first view but I think it can be interpreted either way. Particularly with it saying "that too should be held in confidential arbitration", the CAT claim is not arbitration. What I think it is most likely actually saying is that the PL are trying to prevent the CAT case, which would be public, from going ahead arguing that should be dealt with under the arbitration instead. That suggests to me that the PL's jurisdiction challenge is still yet to be decided. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: I thought that on first view but I think it can be interpreted either way. Particularly with it saying "that too should be held in confidential arbitration", the CAT claim is not arbitration. What I think it is most likely actually saying is that the PL are trying to prevent the CAT case, which would be public, from going ahead arguing that should be dealt with under the arbitration instead. That suggests to me that the PL's jurisdiction challenge is still yet to be decided. That’s how I interpreted it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: So that suggests the jurisdiction claim has been thrown out? Im leaning about 70/30 in that direction yes, the 30 being what Jackie Broon just said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: That’s how I interpreted it too. Of course you fucking did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 It was noticeable that De Marco tweeted about the statement last night. Remember, it was him a few months ago who said he always advises clients to come to an arrangement before arbitration goes ahead because it can be a lottery. I think the statement was a call to the PL to accept an arrangement that has been offered to them by the club. The main reason I think the PL are resisting is that they have come too far down the line to be seen losing face by backing down before legal proceedings. More importantly though, if they lose then they can go back to their six overlords and say "we tried lads, but the law took it out of our hands". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Only during this utterly painful saga could the club release a clarifying statement which only leads to more confusion, more interpretation and even less of an understanding of what is going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Of course you fucking did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Only during this utterly painful saga could the club release a clarifying statement which only leads to more confusion, more interpretation and even less of an understanding of what is going on. Yes, though I’m sure it will have been agreed with the legals, part of a strategy. I’m also sure the legals will have agreed to the wording before it was released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
veriaqa Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: Yes, though I’m sure it will have been agreed with the legals, part of a strategy. I’m also sure the legals will have agreed to the wording before it was released. This. I wonder how anyone could think that the statement was made by Ashley and Chanchanman in panic mode scrambling for words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 20 minutes ago, Wandy said: It was noticeable that De Marco tweeted about the statement last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jackie Broon said: I thought that on first view but I think it can be interpreted either way. Particularly with it saying "that too should be held in confidential arbitration", the CAT claim is not arbitration. What I think it is most likely actually saying is that the PL are trying to prevent the CAT case, which would be public, from going ahead arguing that should be dealt with under the arbitration instead. That suggests to me that the PL's jurisdiction challenge is still yet to be decided. This is what I couldn't make fit, but that does make alot of sense. One point of note though, is that it seems the PL are no longer arguing for it to be 'thrown out' because of both cases being materially the same, but now arguing it should be absorbed into the arb case (I suspect to avoid public scrutiny) which does suggest a different tact and a significant come down from their initial positioning which was that this case shouldn't even be heard in the first place. Edited July 2, 2021 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) As much as Ashley is a fucking whopping hypocrite for wanting transparency and communications to be public, it does piss me off that the media in general haven’t exactly pulled him up on neglecting to inform NUFC fans of what’s happening or not at NUFC over the last decade plus, I think that Spider-Man meme is apt for all of the cunts, they are all hypocrites. Fuck them all. Edited July 2, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Joey Linton said: I don’t think the need for transparency is coming from Ashley, the need for transparency will have come from the legals to heap pressure on the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Joey Linton said: Tbh I’m a bit sick about everyone pointing out the irony of Newcastle asking for transparency like we’ve all forgotten what it’s been like and they are the first to point it out. this is obviously a play from the lawyers not Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, HTT II said: As much as Ashley is a fucking whopping hypocrite for wanting transparency and communications to be public, it does piss me off that the media in general haven’t exactly pulled him up on neglecting to inform NUFC fans of what’s happening or not at NUFC over the last decade plus, I think that Spider-Man meme is apt for all of the cunts, they are all hypocrites. Fuck them all. Exactly mate the media are all whingeing about the double standards of statement. I couldn’t give a fuck if this is hypocrisy from club and I couldn’t give a fuck about journalist’s. We all know Ashley has fucked us over for 14 years, it’s a bit late for transparency now. What do they want us to do be up in arms ? No ones barely listened to us for 14 years. It’s all well and good thinking it would be nice to see the roles reversed on Ashley, but he’ll quickly get over 340 million whilst swanning it down Miami Beach. We won’t get over this takeover though, it’s all that fucking matters, the be all and end all for NUFC in the short, medium and long term. Fuck the journalists self pity, I support Ashley entirely at this point and I’ll also be delighted as anyone when the cunt finally goes. Edited July 2, 2021 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Had this gone through yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: Had this gone through yet? Yep. Happy birthday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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